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  • #1682
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    there are never 10000 homeless people in this country

    Amen brother!!


  • #1683
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    yep

    And so is treating infertility.


  • #1684
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    22michael44 wrote: »
    there's only so many jobs to go around, there's always going to be unemployed people. another thing that seems to pass a lot of people by

    I'm in recruitment and have 6 entry level jobs in Dublin that I am having to use my resourcer for. These are no real experience needed jobs that pay 22-28k. Plenty of jobs at the moment


  • #1685
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Sundew wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/government-signs-off-on-financial-aid-for-ivf-couples-460251.html

    That's what I meant: two years ago and no progress since. It doesn't commit to full funding either but it does mention means testing. What if it ends up penalising working couples for working again, like medical cards etc?


  • #1686
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Rubbish.

    I heard it reported on the radio today that the meat processing industry will have to import 500 workers to meet demand.

    Like the company in Killdare a few years back that advertised for jobs in Poland but not in Killdare? As I said, if you are Irish or British, you don't stand a chance.


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  • #1687
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Deleted User wrote: »
    there are never 10000 homeless people in this country

    That's just the figure for people in emergency accommodation. It doesn't include rough sleepers or people kipping on a sofa.


  • #1688
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Like the company in Killdare a few years back that advertised for jobs in Poland but not in Killdare? As I said, if you are Irish or British, you don't stand a chance.

    Yeah that story turned out to be complete bs.

    Get a job you lazy bum.


  • #1689
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    eviltwin wrote: »
    That's just the figure for people in emergency accommodation. It doesn't include rough sleepers or people kipping on a sofa.

    Or people returning to live with parents because they can't afford the rent


  • #1690
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,228 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    22michael44 wrote: »
    would you rather they came over and went on benefits? it's freedom of movement, and it doesn't contradict my point that there's only so many jobs to go around. i thought you'd welcome the Polish work ethic.

    I think you need to read my post again.

    You said there are not enough jobs and I pointed out that Polish people are able to find work, I'm not really sure how you didn't get the point I was making but nevermind.


  • #1691
    HappyAsLarE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    When it comes to “everybody” getting a job, don’t forget that a percentage of the population (less than 10) don’t have the cognitive ability to execute basic tasks. If our industries advance so much that 90% isn’t enough people then we rely on immigrants.


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  • #1692
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    And 2 million homeless.

    We have 10,000 here and people loose their minds.

    Once again 2 million.

    Where are you getting those figures because it's not anywhere near tally with what a quick google search shows - more like .75%


  • #1693
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    eviltwin wrote: »
    That's just the figure for people in emergency accommodation. It doesn't include rough sleepers or people kipping on a sofa.

    ......any homeless people though?

    edit: missed rough sleepers,

    would obv agree they're homeless


  • #1694
    Sundew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Sundew


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    Jesus stick to the topic
    Take a chill pill!


  • #1695
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    eviltwin wrote: »
    That's just the figure for people in emergency accommodation. It doesn't include rough sleepers or people kipping on a sofa.

    Zzzzzz


  • #1696
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭take everything


    Did this woman refuse a place in Meath as well.

    Ridiculous.


  • #1697
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Sundew wrote: »
    Take a chill pill!

    More like the morning after pill


  • #1698
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    I don't believe this one would work regardless of how many jobs are available.


  • #1699
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    take everything wrote: »
    Did this woman refuse a place in Meath as well.

    Ridiculous.

    Yes.


  • #1700
    22michael44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    I think you need to read my post again.

    You said there are not enough jobs and I pointed out that Polish people are able to find work, I'm not really sure how you didn't get the point I was making but nevermind.

    what i said/meant was that every country has unemployment, and there's no such thing as a country where every able-bodied person has a job available for them. maybe if you closed the borders and got strict about it, but it doesn't work that way.


  • #1701
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    22michael44 wrote: »
    what i said/meant was that every country has unemployment, and there's no such thing as a country where every able-bodied person has a job available for them. maybe if you closed the borders and got strict about it, but it doesn't work that way.

    What???

    You’re making no sense whatsoever.


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  • #1702
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Where are you getting those figures because it's not anywhere near tally with what a quick google search shows - more like .75%

    And Canada has a population of 37 million so its not even a like for like comparison .


  • #1703
    glenfieldman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    And 2 million homeless.

    We have 10,000 here and people loose their minds.

    Once again 2 million.

    If you read back on the post I commented on, they asked which utopian country had ticked all of the list they mentioned
    Homelessness was not one of them
    So my answer was correct


  • #1704
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    And Canada has a population of 37 million so its not even a like for like comparison .

    Hold on.

    Ireland has 10,000 homeless with a population of 5 million.

    Canada has a population of 37 million and how many homeless?


  • #1705
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Does being homeless mean being in temporary accommodation or in an hotel now?
    Very few real homeless people in this country and I mean people actually living on the street.
    If you refuse accommodation then you shouldn't be counted as homeless - you made a lifestyle choice
    And I know - I am not counting people refusing to go into drug and alcohol fueled hostels.


  • #1706
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Hold on.

    Ireland has 10,000 homeless with a population of 5 million.

    Canada has a population of 37 million and how many homeless?

    Even with your exaggerated figures the argument is null and void because the two countries are very similar in the percentages


  • #1707
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Hold on.

    Ireland has 10,000 homeless with a population of 5 million.

    Canada has a population of 37 million and how many homeless?

    Not 2 million , you just made up that amount


  • #1708
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Even with your exaggerated figures the argument is null and void because the two countries are very similar in the percentages

    So Canada isn’t a utopia compared to Ireland


  • #1709
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Not 2 million , you just made up that amount

    Yes 200,000 my bad.

    But still more when compared to Ireland and population ratio.


  • #1710
    Blazer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,478 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    22michael44 wrote: »
    what i said/meant was that every country has unemployment, and there's no such thing as a country where every able-bodied person has a job available for them. maybe if you closed the borders and got strict about it, but it doesn't work that way.

    Its normally accounted for. You will never have full employment so generally around 3% of the population are unemployed due to ill health, disability or just plain lazy.
    The problem here is she's a member of the welfare culture who feel they are entitled to get everything for free and will engage in any manner to get it whether by pulling the above stunt or engaging in criminal behaviour.
    She's getting 55K a year tax free into her hand. She's going out on the piss, taking sunbed sessions while her husband is in jail for criminal behaviour which we again are paying for. All in all this family is probably costing taxpayers the bones of 150k a year (around 100k for her husband).
    There is no way you can argue that this women is not being supported.
    She is being supported far beyond any taxpayer in this country.


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  • #1711
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭take everything


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    It is quite sad though, that people are angrier at her than they are at the government's deliberate and ideologically-driven failure to do anything about the homeless crisis.

    The government are a disgrace on this issue.
    But I think people are angry at someone who is blatantly trying to cutely skip the queue and may not be as deserving as she is making out.
    She refused accomodation already apparently.
    She's had 6+ kids despite patently not able to provide for them.
    That's just irresponsibility.
    Hard-working, decent people are rightly outraged.


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