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Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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  • #1292
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    Those migrants are needed to do the jobs that the lifetime welfare scrounges won’t do.

    In theory - and true for some nationalities - this is not true across the board and we are just importing more scroungers.


  • #1293
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Patrick2010 wrote:
    Can that be the same one though given shes apparently 28 and the Margaret Cash in that report was 27 five years ago?

    The incident was five years ago. The report was from december


  • #1294
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,810 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The incident was five years ago. The report was from december
    Ah ok, didn't see that.


  • #1295
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    seamus wrote: »
    These seven children are the real vulnerable in society.

    You're all about punishment and responsibility, but can't see how you're just kicking the can down the road. Would you rather punish the mother now and then punish her seven adult children, or help her now and never have to deal with her kids?

    Ignore the fact that she's a criminal. Ignore the fact that she's a liar. Ignore the fact that she's an idiot. Her children are none of these things. Yet.

    We can't achieve the goal of punishing her bad choices while improving things for her children. The two are mutually exclusive.

    What course of action will result in a better outcome for society?
    Give her another 40000 a year to top up her current meagre 'earnings' .


  • #1296
    fawlty682
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭fawlty682


    Good points made here not like the tweeters who bought the photo totally. Obviously a set up. No sympathy for FG as they have tried to bamboozle us with figures for several years which are as reliable as Garda stats.However, Mr Harris says today that Mr Murphy is working extraordinarily hard. He may be but he has failed miserably.


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  • #1297
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Can that be the same one though given shes apparently 28 and the Margaret Cash in that report was 27 five years ago?

    The charge was from 2013. The court case was in Dec 2017.


  • #1298
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I work in emergency accommodation. About 60% of the people there are working but are in low paid jobs. A few are lone parents. Some are entitled and expect a house but I've never seen anyone like this woman.

    Peter mcverry said 1 in 5 work in emergency accommodation???


  • #1299
    Melendez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Melendez


    This post has been deleted.


  • #1300
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Alrigghtythen wrote: »
    Give her another 40000 a year to top up her current meagre 'earnings' .

    Nice commas!

    I've heard those AAA/PBP numpties actually phrase the handouts in that way "money earned through jobseekers" etc.

    Usually around budget time where their wad goes up and we look at the 37c a week tax cut.


  • #1301
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    fawlty682 wrote: »
    Good points made here not like the tweeters who bought the photo totally. Obviously a set up. No sympathy for FG as they have tried to bamboozle us with figures for several years which are as reliable as Garda stats.However, Mr Harris says today that Mr Murphy is working extraordinarily hard. He may be but he has failed miserably.

    Failed miserably in what?


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  • #1302
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Melendez wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    My apologies.

    She's a lovely virginal lady, salt of the earth and goes out at 4am to clean.


  • #1303
    alias no.9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,403 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    "Jayden and Daisy-Maiiii go play Minecraft... here give me your phone I'll set it up .. CLICK".

    Possibly the single biggest thing she could do for them and would most likely be done through ignorance. They might learn how to work to build something, to overcome challenges and be creative.


  • #1304
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Failed miserably in what?

    Not every workshy waster has a free house and we still get money left over after tax - so just not screwing us workers hard enough.


  • #1305
    MFPM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭MFPM


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Don't read the Twitter feed of that Flynn bloke from Helping Homeless or whatever they are.

    So much saccharin in the replies I think I'm developing diabetes.

    Better than vomit from the hatred being spewed here.


  • #1306
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    alias no.9 wrote: »
    Possibly the single biggest thing she could do for them and would most likely be done through ignorance. They might learn how to work to build something, to overcome challenges and be creative.

    Unlikely - more like they use it to prepare escape routes for bank jobs.


  • #1307
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    MFPM wrote: »
    Better than vomit from the hatred being spewed here.

    Nah not really.


  • #1308
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Melendez wrote:
    This post has been deleted.

    If the 38 charges/convictions are false then I apologise for my part in promoting that.

    However I have been given that info by a reputable person and I think it will see it's way into common knowledge soon. But until then you are right, I shouldn't state it with fact without proof.

    I think my argument against her character holds up well with the link I provided so there was no need for the other claim.


  • #1309
    MFPM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭MFPM


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Agreed, and yes I'd say more are than are not.

    I'd doubt the 20bn Euro welfare bill is entirely accurate to be honest, seems higher.[/QUOTE]

    You're right it doesn't include corporate welfare to wealthy companies and individuals but let's not talk about that, it's far more 'fun' to bounce all over this woman!


  • #1310
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    MFPM wrote: »
    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Agreed, and yes I'd say more are than are not.

    I'd doubt the 20bn Euro welfare bill is entirely accurate to be honest, seems higher.[/QUOTE]

    You're right it doesn't include corporate welfare to wealthy companies and individuals but let's not talk about that, it's far more 'fun' to bounce all over this woman!

    Are you Johnny ???


  • #1311
    Trigger Happy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    That reminds me. Budget time is coming up.
    They will be increasing the dole probably.
    If only they had the balls to reform the system.
    The dole should be a temporary help for people who need it until they get back on their feet. It should decrease overtime. No one should be able to live off it long term.


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  • #1312
    MFPM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭MFPM


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Nah not really.

    Yep...all from the safety of anonymity!


  • #1313
    MFPM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭MFPM


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    MFPM wrote: »

    Are you Johnny ???

    It's OK, I didn't expect an intelligent response.


  • #1314
    Infini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭Infini


    Honestly I have to approach this with alot of scepticism myself as while I can have sympathy for homeless to some degree I have to wonder why she has so many children for starters if shes got no home. You dont have that many if your struggling as more kids mean less money to go round.

    If it's genuine sure I can understand but taking to cancer media has become somewhat of an attention seeking excercise or way of trying to guilt trip people to jumping the queue. You just can be sure whos genuine and whos taking the piss anymore.


  • #1315
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    That reminds me. Budget time is coming up.
    They will be increasing the dole probably.
    If only they had the balls to reform the system.
    The dole should be a temporary help for people who need it until they get back on their feet. It should decrease overtime. No one should be able to live off it long term.


    Doley going up a fiver a week.thats 2 extra cans for the bhoooys.


  • #1316
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    seamus wrote: »
    These seven children are the real vulnerable in society.

    You're all about punishment and responsibility, but can't see how you're just kicking the can down the road. Would you rather punish the mother now and then punish her seven adult children, or help her now and never have to deal with her kids?

    Ignore the fact that she's a criminal. Ignore the fact that she's a liar. Ignore the fact that she's an idiot. Her children are none of these things. Yet.

    We can't achieve the goal of punishing her bad choices while improving things for her children. The two are mutually exclusive.

    What course of action will result in a better outcome for society?

    Remove the kids from her. Thats the only chance they have at a decent life.


  • #1317
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Peter mcverry said 1 in 5 work in emergency accommodation???

    McVerry take the people other services won't take, they have high needs and I'm surprised any of them work. The service I work for would have mostly working people who have fallen on hard times.


  • #1318
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Remove the kids from her. Thats the only chance they have at a decent life.

    And the Government have to come out and say from 1 January 2020 (give plenty of notice), all child related payments will be capped at two children (additional consideration given to a second pregnancy involving a multiple birth).

    We're not going a China route but if you want more - you pay for them. We're done.


  • #1319
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    eviltwin wrote: »
    McVerry take the people other services won't take, they have high needs and I'm surprised any of them work. The service I work for would have mostly working people who have fallen on hard times.

    Have you evidence?


  • #1320
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Have you evidence?

    Evidence of what


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  • #1321
    goose2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Dont forget johns 188 a week. Add that on.
    193


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