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'Terminator' fans triggered by latest Hollywood SJW effort

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭bubbles o hara


    I'm not a a fan of the Terminator films, but I thought Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) was amazing. She was portrayed as an incredibly strong powerful woman, and also happened to be beautiful, which seems to be a sin these days. To me,she was a true feminist, not the ball breaking, vagina costume wearing marchers of today, who seem to see all men as the enemy.



    I'm so fcuking sick of the pc world we live in now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I don't go to the cinema for politics

    Cinema has always been soaked in politics, ideology, religion and whatnot. 'March of the [****ing] Penguins' even has it. 'In the harshest place on Earth, love finds a way'

    They're ****ing Penguins Morgan, g'way with your pseudo-religious anthropomorphism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭soiseztomabel


    So...........John Connor is now Joan Connor?

    No wonder the T800 had trouble tracking him down.



    Played by Edwina Furlong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Sciprio


    They could have at least put Linda Hamilton in the middle. I've nothing against women being in lead roles but replacing the main cast with an all Female cast doesn't help at all. The Terminator/Ghostbusters(Original) etc..were created, not to push an agenda on people but just to be entertainment for people and now we have all these being recreated just to push an agenda. Women= Right, Men = Bad. Who should young boys look up to when they keep getting this stuff shoved down their gullets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Jaysus who cares, it's gonna be ****e anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I went to see Wonder Woman for the women in skimpy outfits, and stayed for the action, great movie.

    I went to see Black Panther for the action, and all I got were men in skin-tight leather outfits grappling with each other - bloody awful movie.


    Jus the poster alone for this Terminator movie brings back long repressed memories of Demi Moore in GI Jane when she snarled at her commanding officer... actually I won't spoil it for the lucky few who managed to avoid that godawful heap of shyte, but anyone who's seen the movie will know the scene I'm referring to :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,777 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Who would star in that?

    1) Ruth Coppinger
    2) Claire Daly
    3) Arlene Foster
    4) Sarah McInerney


    ????

    5) Louise O Neill

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    I actually don't have any issues with this and I was very much all about pooping on the Ghostbusters remake and whatever they did to Oceans whatever number it is.

    But in this... Sarah Connors is tough as nuts, that Mackenzie one looks bad ass, I'll be going to check it out and I've no problems with the leads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I gave up on the franchise after T-3. They completely lost the plot with the movies now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    the only saving grace is that it's a sequel rather than a remake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    I actually don't have any issues with this and I was very much all about pooping on the Ghostbusters remake and whatever they did to Oceans whatever number it is.

    But in this... Sarah Connors is tough as nuts, that Mackenzie one looks bad ass, I'll be going to check it out and I've no problems with the leads.

    This is what i don't get, Sarah Connors particularly in the 2nd one was hard as ****ing nails.

    They also are going to have Arnie in it, and a kid playing young John Connors. The time changing stuff lends itself well to this movie as well.

    Not quite sure what the issue is.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Toby Nutty Tungsten


    It's funny that a poster of 3 members of one half of the population is normal, but a poster of a different 3 members is sjw or pandering and literally the worst thing ever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Doesn't take much to trigger the broflakes these days.

    I mean it's not as if Terminator was a film about a kick-ass woman in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Also there was already a very strong female character in this franchise back in the 80's.

    But again you have the same problem. They are trying to put their SJW feminist values in to a movie whose fan base in mostly men.

    The "Oceans" movie franchise was another one they replaced with all female cast - again a flop.

    It does seem odd to repeat this experiment if it isn’t succeeding. Surely money will eventually talk.

    Also: enough with the reboots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    It does seem odd to repeat this experiment if it isn’t succeeding. Surely money will eventually talk.

    Also: enough with the reboots.

    From what I can gather this one is a sequel. If nothing else people suddenly seem to care about the Terminator series for the first time in over a decade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,446 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    The Doctor Who syndrome I call it.

    Let's ram things down people throats for the sake of it.

    They aren't being smart, just idiotic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    somefeen wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with decent and strong female leads but if they don't concentrate on making good and interesting characters and stories first it just ends up being a crap film.

    You could easily say the same about **** movies with weak male characters. It goes both ways. The problem isn’t Hollywood trying to push an SJW agenda or being pro-feminist. The problem is ****ty writers not being able to write interesting characters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    The Ghostbusters remake was pretty good all round, assuming you're not the sort of pathetic, insecure moron who uses terms like "sjw". It certainly wasn't any worse than the originals, which were bad at the time and haven't held up well either. If it was flop it wasn't because the original films' fans were men, they were children. Unfortunately many of them still are.

    You go girlfriend, tell it like it is('nt).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    For me the problem is the shoehorning of female actors into characters we all know as male. Hand on heart I would be equally outraged if they made an Alien remake with a male Ripley.

    Why not have original female characters like when one poster mentioned 3 billboards?


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Toby Nutty Tungsten


    For me the problem is the shoehorning of female actors into characters we all know as male. Hand on heart I would be equally outraged if they made an Alien remake with a male Ripley.

    Why not have original female characters like when one poster mentioned 3 billboards?

    What male characters? John connors is in it and gabriel someome is the new terminator


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    If people are really annoyed about this, why not just vote with your wallets and not see it? It's been decades since the last good Terminator film.

    I'm so tired of modern whinging and whining culture.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fxotoole wrote: »
    You could easily say the same about **** movies with weak male characters. It goes both ways. The problem isn’t Hollywood trying to push an SJW agenda or being pro-feminist. The problem is ****ty writers not being able to write interesting characters.

    No, the problem is a lack of balance. There's no attempt to bring in both male & female roles to act together. Instead, as in Terminator, Oceans, and Ghost busters, all the main characters have to be female. Everything becomes
    "Team Female". All these sequels follow the same format... and it's pathetic.

    Hollywood is pushing a SJW or feminist agenda because we're not seeing films with strong male and female roles acting together (which is what we had previously). Instead, we're getting this effort to show "strong"/"smart" women working together against obstacles which are male/masculine in nature.

    Wonder will the Terminator central AI still be portrayed as being female?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    I remeber the BSG remake and Starbuck and Boomer were women. I remember thinking goddamn stupid gender balance bull**** and nearly didn’t watch it.
    Luckily I did and it turned out to be one of finest tv shows ever that had both excellent male and femail actors in it.
    The terminator poster looks like some real gender pandering bull**** though in fairness which will really backfire on them if the mainly male fan base said to hell with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    fxotoole wrote: »
    You could easily say the same about **** movies with weak male characters. It goes both ways. The problem isn’t Hollywood trying to push an SJW agenda or being pro-feminist. The problem is ****ty writers not being able to write interesting characters.

    Ah don't be spoiling it for the boo-boys. They haven't even seen this movie and it's the worst ever made! There is always a chance that good writers were involved and there will be interesting characters, but it is easier for people to write off the film straight away and then they can always say "I told you so" if it is crap (as it is expected to be crap solely due to the other Terminator films).


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Toby Nutty Tungsten


    No, the problem is a lack of balance. There's no attempt to bring in both male & female roles to act together. Instead, as in Terminator, Oceans, and Ghost busters, all the main characters have to be female. Everything becomes
    "Team Female". All these sequels follow the same format... and it's pathetic.

    Hollywood is pushing a SJW or feminist agenda because we're not seeing films with strong male and female roles acting together (which is what we had previously). Instead, we're getting this effort to show "strong"/"smart" women working together against obstacles which are male/masculine in nature.

    Wonder will the Terminator central AI still be portrayed as being female?

    I didn't realise gabriel luna was female. Have you let him know?


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I didn't realise gabriel luna was female. Have you let him know?

    Skynet_%28Helena_Bonham_Carter%29.jpg

    Wasn't she portrayed as the AI personality?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Ah don't be spoiling it for the boo-boys. They haven't even seen this movie and it's the worst ever made! There is always a chance that good writers were involved and there will be interesting characters, but it is easier for people to write off the film straight away and then they can always say "I told you so" if it is crap (as it is expected to be crap solely due to the other Terminator films).

    I did the same with the Ghostbusters remake when it came out. Then, I had to vacate my flat one night and it was the only thing on at the cinema. Turned out to be quite good. Not genre defining but a very good laugh.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Toby Nutty Tungsten


    Skynet_%28Helena_Bonham_Carter%29.jpg

    Wasn't she portrayed as the AI personality?
    GL is the new terminator. Jude someone is john connor


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    GL is the new terminator. Jude someone is john connor

    You're confusing AI's/Characters. I wasn't talking about the Terminator personality. I wasn't referring to Arnies Terminator or any of the physical terminators that chase our heroes around the place. I referred to the mainframe AI Skynet, which did have a female personality in one of the movies.


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  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Toby Nutty Tungsten


    You're confusing AI's/Characters. I wasn't talking about the Terminator personality. I wasn't referring to Arnies Terminator or any of the physical terminators that chase our heroes around the place. I referred to the mainframe AI Skynet, which did have a female personality in one of the movies.

    You also referred to ALL the characters being replaced with women.


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