'Terminator' fans triggered by latest Hollywood SJW effort

Kermit.de.frog · 09-08-2018 11:51PM #1

I think you have to go all the way back to Terminator 2 in the early 90's for the last good movie of this franchise.

So fans were looking forward to the new 6th installment because it was going to take up from that movie and ignore all the rubbish movies since - and James Cameron is going to produce it.

So they seem to have had high hopes UNTIL the first kinda poster teaser for the movie came out in recent days:

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I'm all for empowerment of women and all that stuff but I agree with the backlash here. I don't go to the cinema for politics or to have this SJW stuff forced down my throat. I just want to see hopefully a good movie with great characters (male and female) and leave that sh!t at the door.

The thing is it's so in your face - the message. I don't see any need for it.

Everyone is in favor of more women empowerment in movies as it is. Or at least I don't see anyone objecting.

Anyway this is far from the first franchise likely to suffer. The remake of 'Ghostbusters' in 2016 to an all female main cast was more of the same stuff with Hollywood trying to force it's SJW ideals on the audience. Of course it flopped - I don't know maybe because the original movies fan base was mostly men!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrolgeuWo8

nullzero · 09-08-2018 11:52PM

Women are the same as men, except men are idiots.

Ipso · 09-08-2018 11:53PM

So there should be an expectation that men have to be leads in films to not alienate/upset them? Isn't that a bit peecee?

Jim Bob Scratcher · 09-08-2018 11:54PM

Just seeing that poster is enough reason not to go and see this film.

NIMAN · 09-08-2018 11:54PM

Surely there's a man in that photo.....the middle one? No?

09-08-2018 11:56PM

I think Annette Schwarzenegger has agreed to the lead role?

Cheerful Spring · 09-08-2018 11:58PM

nullzero wrote: »

Women are the same as men, except men are idiots.

I agree but look at the recent Ghostbusters release all-woman cast and the movie was awful.

If the movie is good I don't care, but if it's terrible what was the point of new terminator again?

nullzero · 09-08-2018 11:58PM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I agree but look at the recent Ghostbusters release all-woman cast and the movie was awful.

If the movie is good I don't care, but if it's terrible what was the point of new terminator again?

You agree that men are idiots?

09-08-2018 11:59PM

It's such absolute nonsense.

Look at movies like Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri and you'll find an amazing performance and a genuinely strong female lead.. That's an empowering role and relateable to women instead of just ticking some boxes.

This fúckery of replacing men with women is saying "Women are stronger when they act like men." Why not have them just be strong women?

somefeen · 09-08-2018 11:59PM

I think the problem with this stuff is it comes off so obvious and cack handed. People can tell when a film make deliberate choices to try and cash in on equality and feminism.

Nothing wrong with decent and strong female leads but if they don't concentrate on making good and interesting characters and stories first it just ends up being a crap film.

TheChizler · 10-08-2018 12:01AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Surely there's a man in that photo.....the middle one? No?

Is there something off about the size of their heads? I don't get it, what am I outraged about?

Cheerful Spring · 10-08-2018 12:01AM

nullzero wrote: »

You agree that men are idiots?

Yes, we can be idiots sometimes. Are you a woman?

nullzero · 10-08-2018 12:07AM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Yes, we can be idiots sometimes. Are you a woman?

I'm a man I was taking the piss out of the notion that men are inherently stupid. A notion the media has become more and more enamored with. People can be idiots at times, gender isn't a determining factor.

Kermit.de.frog · 10-08-2018 12:08AM

somefeen wrote: »

I think the problem with this stuff is it comes off so obvious and cack handed. People can tell when a film make deliberate choices to try and cash in on equality and feminism.

Nothing wrong with decent and strong female leads but if they don't concentrate on making good and interesting characters and stories first it just ends up being a crap film.

Also there was already a very strong female character in this franchise back in the 80's.

But again you have the same problem. They are trying to put their SJW feminist values in to a movie whose fan base in mostly men.

The "Oceans" movie franchise was another one they replaced with all female cast - again a flop.

TheValeyard · 10-08-2018 12:12AM

So...........John Connor is now Joan Connor?

No wonder the T800 had trouble tracking him down.

Venom · 10-08-2018 12:12AM

somefeen wrote: »

I think the problem with this stuff is it comes off so obvious and cack handed. People can tell when a film make deliberate choices to try and cash in on equality and feminism.

Nothing wrong with decent and strong female leads but if they don't concentrate on making good and interesting characters and stories first it just ends up being a crap film.

The gas thing is Hamilton as Sarah Connor in the first two movies is up there with Ripley from the Alien franchise as a kick-ass female character that's loved by the fanbase. There is literally nothing to gain with the fans by this pr stunt.

Kermit.de.frog · 10-08-2018 12:17AM

Venom wrote: »

The gas thing is Hamilton as Sarah Connor in the first two movies is up there with Ripley from the Alien franchise as a kick-ass female character that's loved by the fanbase. There is literally nothing to gain with the fans by this pr stunt.

+1. There was never an anti female inbalance in this franchise in the first place.

Agricola · 10-08-2018 12:17AM

How things have changed in the 15 years since Terminator 3.

Back then the concept discussion would have been "Oh I know, lets have a female terminator, lets make her really hot in a tight leather outfit and she will of course be naked at some point.... basically a sex robot killing machine"

The discussion for this film "Oh I know lets have an all female cast, because women are so IN right now. Girlpower and all that. They don't need no men to kick some ass. We'll make them butch and manly, no sexualizing them in any way cos that's just not on!"

Jesus.

Noveight · 10-08-2018 12:19AM

Ghostbusters, Ocean's 8 and now this.

Waiting for 12 Angry Men Empowered Women.

TheChizler · 10-08-2018 12:20AM

Is that not John Connor in the middle?

Kermit.de.frog · 10-08-2018 12:22AM

TheChizler wrote: »

Is that not John Connor in the middle?

Transbot?

Ah sure why not...

10-08-2018 12:24AM

Everything since 2 has been **** anyway, this is just a lame effort to drum up some attention

TheChizler · 10-08-2018 12:26AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Transbot?

Ah sure why not...

Christ just realized that's your one from Blade Runner.

TheValeyard · 10-08-2018 12:28AM

riffmongous wrote: »

Everything since 2 has been **** anyway, this is just a lame effort to drum up some attention

The ending of three was good.

Four was fine as a stand alone film. Quite enjoyed it actually.

NIMAN · 10-08-2018 12:30AM

Noveight wrote: »

Ghostbusters, Ocean's 8 and now this.

Waiting for 12 Angry Men Empowered Women.

Who would star in that?

1) Ruth Coppinger
2) Claire Daly
3) Arlene Foster
4) Sarah McInerney

????

10-08-2018 12:32AM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

The ending of three was good.

Four was fine as a stand alone film. Quite enjoyed it actually.

Really? Compared to one and two I just find them all so poor, but well, good for you anyway if you can enjoy them!

I would say the original is one of my all time favourites, so many great scenes

Kermit.de.frog · 10-08-2018 12:36AM

That poster looks so cheap and tacky too. Aside from the feminist thing whoever thought to put that out can't do their job. I know transition year students that could do a better job in 15 minutes than that on promotional material!

Greyfox · 10-08-2018 12:39AM

Go away op and all the other doubters. Yes t3 4 n 5 were only good films whereas 1 and 2 are 2 of the best films ever made but so what, I have faith in Cameron even though he's only producing. Can't wait for t6

Slutmonkey57b · 10-08-2018 12:44AM

The Ghostbusters remake was pretty good all round, assuming you're not the sort of pathetic, insecure moron who uses terms like "sjw". It certainly wasn't any worse than the originals, which were bad at the time and haven't held up well either. If it was flop it wasn't because the original films' fans were men, they were children. Unfortunately many of them still are.

Annasopra · 10-08-2018 12:46AM

Snowflakes

Mokuba · 10-08-2018 12:51AM

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

The Ghostbusters remake was pretty good all round, assuming you're not the sort of pathetic, insecure moron who uses terms like "sjw". It certainly wasn't any worse than the originals, which were bad at the time and haven't held up well either. If it was flop it wasn't because the original films' fans were men, they were children. Unfortunately many of them still are.

It was absolutely awful.

The original was a classic.

You're embarrassing yourself.

'Terminator' fans triggered by latest Hollywood SJW effort

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