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Influencers over-editing photos in Social Media/Cyber-bullying accusations

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Anyhow going forward it seems there is going to a big clean up in the blogging world, this was posted a while ago but worth reading:

    The Irish Times - background-checks-for-online-influencers-under-core-policy ( I can't post link sorry)

    I didn't know the ASAI were self regulatory, that explains their lack of interest in reprimanding bloggers who don't adhere to the rules.
    https://www.adworld.ie/2018/06/15/core-introduces-new-guidelines-procedures-dealing-influencers-ambassadors/

    There have been a few stories like that. I read one a few months back that said they were going to bring in all sorts of rules and a new way to monitor. I think things like that are best believed when they are seen. Nothing seems to have happened at all since I read the article and it was written as though it was happening in a few days or a week.

    Also Core can't implement too many rules, as it would effect them also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭margaretdublin


    It's interesting to look at the effect that BU had on the blogging industry and I would imagine that these organizations are only too glad of the demise of the page. Now that the page is gone I don't think they will be in any hurry to change things.

    Suckit wrote: »
    https://www.adworld.ie/2018/06/15/core-introduces-new-guidelines-procedures-dealing-influencers-ambassadors/

    There have been a few stories like that. I read one a few months back that said they were going to bring in all sorts of rules and a new way to monitor. I think things like that are best believed when they are seen. Nothing seems to have happened at all since I read the article and it was written as though it was happening in a few days or a week.

    Also Core can't implement too many rules, as it would effect them also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Shergar6


    What are peoples thoughts on why Ramona allowed a photo of her to be posted in the paper? She could have done the interview without the photo. Now everyone knows what she looks like. Attention seeking? Trying to make her "I'm not BU" act seem legit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭soiseztomabel


    Shergar6 wrote: »
    What are peoples thoughts on why Ramona allowed a photo of her to be posted in the paper? She could have done the interview without the photo. Now everyone knows what she looks like. Attention seeking? Trying to make her "I'm not BU" act seem legit?

    "Blogger / Influencer" and "attention seeking" in the same sentence..... I've seen it all now.


  • Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "Blogger / Influencer" and "attention seeking" in the same sentence..... I've seen it all now.

    This is probably the funniest post I've ever seen on boards..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    This is probably the funniest post I've ever seen on boards..

    Is this your first day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭soiseztomabel


    Is this your first day?

    Ouch...... I feel victimized, insta story incoming !!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Shergar6


    "Blogger / Influencer" and "attention seeking" in the same sentence..... I've seen it all now.

    But "Ramona" wasn't a blogger or influencer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭margaretdublin


    She's saying I don't give a F**K about your death threats, I know who wrote them.:)

    Shergar6 wrote: »
    What are peoples thoughts on why Ramona allowed a photo of her to be posted in the paper? She could have done the interview without the photo. Now everyone knows what she looks like. Attention seeking? Trying to make her "I'm not BU" act seem legit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭soiseztomabel


    Shergar6 wrote: »
    But "Ramona" wasn't a blogger or influencer.

    What was BU then ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    An old fella said to me ‘you have a face for radio’.
    Must have been BU in disguise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭erica74


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Kelsey_frankie on Insta has her own BU story!

    And another fame hungry herd are born!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Shergar6


    What was BU then ?

    Jesus wept!!, You don't get it. Ramona was trying to convince people she wasn't BU. She was just a country beautician who knew nothing. Ramona Tracy was never a blogger or an influencer. She didn't court attention for her true identity. It was all anonymous. So why put that picture out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Shergar6 wrote: »
    Jesus wept!!, You don't get it. Ramona was trying to convince people she wasn't BU. She was just a country beautician who knew nothing. Ramona Tracy was never a blogger or an influencer. She didn't court attention for her true identity. It was all anonymous. So why put that picture out there.


    She courted attention, she courted drama, she just wanted it under an alter ego


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Shergar6


    GingerLily wrote: »
    She courted attention, she courted drama, she just wanted it under an alter ego

    Exactly. So allowing that photo out there knowing that a lot of people had already guessed she was BU is just weird. Dumbest move ever. Without a photo it would just be a name. I know there is talk of people have old Facebook photos of her but I haven't seen any yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Shergar6 wrote: »
    Exactly. So allowing that photo out there knowing that a lot of people had already guessed she was BU is just weird. Dumbest move ever. Without a photo it would just be a name. I know there is talk of people have old Facebook photos of her but I haven't seen any yet.

    She probably had to go along with the act!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭AttentionBebe


    Shergar6 wrote: »
    What are peoples thoughts on why Ramona allowed a photo of her to be posted in the paper? She could have done the interview without the photo. Now everyone knows what she looks like. Attention seeking? Trying to make her "I'm not BU" act seem legit?

    "I'm afraid for my life"

    *Gives interview complete with photo to the Sunday Times*

    Seems legit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Just seen this on twitter if you follow the replies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Just seen this on twitter if you follow the replies.
    https://twitter.com/DearbhlaHere/status/1024688463910760449?s=19

    What's new that was on that? Everyone knows RT is Santa Paws


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭ginandtonicsky


    The journo/photog probably took her by surprise and said “sure no harm, we’ll just get a quick one to reinforce your account of being an innocent beautician who has been been falsely roped into the line of fire” or whatever. I recall her photos around here being a lot more curated and...flattering, I guess. So have to assume she went for the “innocent ordinary beautician from the country” angle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭margaretdublin


    If you really were afraid for your life would you not try to hide your identity?




    "I'm afraid for my life"

    *Gives interview complete with photo to the Sunday Times*

    Seems legit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    If you really were afraid for your life would you not try to hide your identity?

    The people she was afraid knew her identity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭margaretdublin


    Do you mean by the time she did the interview her identity was out there? And do you think she really was afraid? Of CC who she wrote about?


    The people she was afraid knew her identity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Do you mean by the time she did the interview her identity was out there? And do you think she really was afraid? Of CC who she wrote about?

    I reckon it was the white moose cafe lads and one of the girls from IT Galz. It sounds like they suspected it was her and were trying to smoke her out, fair enough, she'd trolled them in the past.

    She might have been afraid but not of those guys, I think she was trying to control the situation, I think in hindsight it was the wrong move, instead of sympathy she just put a face to the person who had trolled A LOT of people over the years. Almost everyone on insta now has their own Ramona story.

    I don't know if it even matters if she is BU anymore, the other stuff is as big now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Moyglish


    That's what I've been wondering about. Did RT basically out herself?

    Before she went public and gave her story to a national newspaper and voluntarily put her face and name out there, I would assume that up until that point it was only a handful of people who knew, or at the very least, suspected, it was her.

    But by voluntarily putting herself out there, she opened up a can of worms and herself to enormous scrutiny as now, even people who were only vaguely interested, had a face and name to latch onto. And then of course the rumour Mill went into overdrive and people started putting 2 and 2 together and before she knew it, she was Public Enemy No. 1

    Did she bring about her demise and downfall all by herself? I reckon if she hadn't done the interview, she'd still be living a relatively normal life now with only a select few gossiping about her behind closed doors and in DMs and PMs, but now the genie is out of the bottle and it's all out in the open and everyone knows.

    Could she really have been that shortsighted and naive to put herself up for public scrutiny like that? I presume that it was she who approached The Irish Times and not vice versa?

    Or did she really think that by going public she was going to pull the wool over everyone's eyes playing the victim card?

    I just find it staggering how this all blew up, seemingly by her own makings..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭RockDesk


    Moyglish wrote: »
    Or did she really think that by going public she was going to pull the wool over everyone's eyes playing the victim card?

    It looks to me like it was this. She (BU) posted a screenshot for whatever reason in her stories seemingly giving away her identity and quickly deleted but it was seen, and Instagram accounts started popping up saying they knew who she was. Then one account posted a photo of Ramona's eyes and it blew up. After that Ramona was on damage control and stupidly went to the papers.

    I would love to know what is going through her head right now. She must be raging that she's been caught out. Now any troll account will be rightly or wrongly attributed to her. Certainly for the next few months anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Do you mean by the time she did the interview her identity was out there? And do you think she really was afraid? Of CC who she wrote about?

    She had already received death threats at that stage so yes, her identity was out there and had been for a few months. By the time the article has published her name was doing the rounds on twitter and in FB groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    GingerLily wrote: »
    I reckon it was the white moose cafe lads and one of the girls from IT Galz. It sounds like they suspected it was her and were trying to smoke her out, fair enough, she'd trolled them in the past.

    She might have been afraid but not of those guys, I think she was trying to control the situation, I think in hindsight it was the wrong move, instead of sympathy she just put a face to the person who had trolled A LOT of people over the years. Almost everyone on insta now has their own Ramona story.

    I don't know if it even matters if she is BU anymore, the other stuff is as big now.

    A lot of people THINK they have their own Ramona story. Most of these “influencers” are so narcissistic that the thought of there being more than one person out there who doesn’t like them and would troll them is just beyond the realm of possibility. I don’t agree with “trolling” but there’s a lot more than one person in Ireland who troll/abuse people online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭margaretdublin


    I think she thought she had enough followers who would believe her. She alluded to that in one of her last insta stores.

    I find the Sunday Times involvement interesting. At the start they wrote a piece on the nursgate in Australia. By the time the Caris Closet came about they must have had their suspicions. They asked followers to contact a journalist in the ST with their story. The ST went on to publish their own Caris Closet story.

    The piece that was written about the nurse saga has been removed maybe it was only in the print edition? It was written by John Burns a very well respected editor, the longest member of the ST.

    If Ramona Treacy is truly BU she has pulled off a massive stunt in d deceiving the Sunday Times.


    Moyglish wrote: »

    Could she really have been that shortsighted and naive to put herself up for public scrutiny like that? I presume that it was she who approached The Irish Times and not vice versa?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,297 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    In the middle of all this bloggers and "influencers" continue to do things that BU would have called them out on. I've definitely seen Insta stories where people have been driving and sponsored posts not tagged. Tbh I don't care who BU was, they provided a service to the public.


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