Build up to Berlin European Championships

ger664 · 08-08-2018 11:54pm

DONTMATTER wrote: »

6th fastest qualifier. Will need to run a PB to medal in my opinion.

I was very impressed with his run today and I think there is more there. He seemed to find an extra gear of the bend but looked comfortable towards the finish. Could have won the heat but there are no prizes for that. IMO he has a every chance of a medal if everything clicks.

Chivito550 · 09-08-2018 8:42am

ger664 wrote: »

I was very impressed with his run today and I think there is more there. He seemed to find an extra gear of the bend but looked comfortable towards the finish. Could have won the heat but there are no prizes for that. IMO he has a every chance of a medal if everything clicks.

Winning the heat ensures a middle lane. He could have ended up in lane 1 because he didn’t win his heat. Thankfully he has lane 8 instead.

EC1000 · 09-08-2018 11:36am

Chivito550 wrote: »

She’s lived there for years, moving over originally to work.

Think its the fact that Israel is not in Europe that was being referred to!

DONTMATTER · 09-08-2018 11:39am

Very disappointing morning. English needs to seriously reassess. Let's hope we have better news with our 2 finals later.

Thomas Barr (Ferrybank) 400m hurdles Final 19:15

Leon Reid (Menapians) 200m Final 20:05

What do we think? 2 medals? 0 medals? 1? I have a horrible feeling that it could be two 4ths.

Chivito550 · 09-08-2018 11:41am

EC1000 wrote: »

Think its the fact that Israel is not in Europe that was being referred to!

Nothing new there though. They are in Europe for many other sports.

djemba djemba · 09-08-2018 12:17pm

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Very disappointing morning. English needs to seriously reassess. Let's hope we have better news with our 2 finals later.

Thomas Barr (Ferrybank) 400m hurdles Final 19:15

Leon Reid (Menapians) 200m Final 20:05

What do we think? 2 medals? 0 medals? 1? I have a horrible feeling that it could be two 4ths.

Will these be on Tv tonight. I see rte 2 are showing the cork city soccer match tonight.

Edit: coverage of the football starts at 7.30 so the Thomas Barr race should be on.

DONTMATTER · 09-08-2018 12:24pm

djemba djemba wrote: »

Will these be on Tv tonight. I see rte 2 are showing the cork city soccer match tonight.

Edit: coverage of the football starts at 7.30 so the Thomas Barr race should be on.

Yes, Barr race will be on RTÉ 2 and Reid's race will be on RTÉ news now.

titan18 · 09-08-2018 7:19pm

Bronze!!!!!

Well done Thomas

jamule · 09-08-2018 7:19pm

Class

Ted_YNWA · 09-08-2018 7:22pm

Great result for Thomas,

Strazdas · 09-08-2018 7:25pm

Barr was immense down the home straight. There was a danger for a moment he might fade but then got his second wind and finished strongly.

walshb · 09-08-2018 7:30pm

Great run by Barr. AlwYs strong in the last 100..

velo.2010 · 09-08-2018 7:30pm

Great championship run by Barr. Fast times are great and all but its racing at the end of the day and he came third in the European final.

Don't get the BBC obsession though with Irish athletes.

Faugheen · 09-08-2018 7:31pm

Strazdas wrote: »

Barr was immense down the home straight. There was a danger for a moment he might fade but then got his second wind and finished strongly.

It never looked in danger in my opinion. Barr is known to be a fast finisher. It's the one thing you notice in all his races that he gets a good turn of foot in the final 100.

Delighted for him. His hard work deserves that moment.

Strazdas · 09-08-2018 7:34pm

Faugheen wrote: »

It never looked in danger in my opinion. Barr is known to be a fast finisher. It's the one thing you notice in all his races that he gets a good turn of foot in the final 100.

Delighted for him. His hard work deserves that moment.

He said in his interview he felt he could take the Frenchman all the way down the straight and so it proved.

honeybear · 09-08-2018 7:37pm

velo.2010 wrote: »

Great championship run by Barr. Fast times are great and all but its racing at the end of the day and he came third in the European final.

Don't get the BBC obsession though with Irish athletes.

Saw someone on another thread say the opposite

Safiri · 09-08-2018 7:39pm

Isreal are barred from Asian championships in pretty much every sport since the 70's due to the cultural difference between them and the middle Eastern Countries. The main reason being that they because they are Jewish and the middle Eastern Countries will not let them compete in an Asian Championship. A deal was made in the 70's to allow them compete in Europe for a temporary period until the ban was lifted. It never was.

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Very disappointing morning. English needs to seriously reassess.

English has been plagued by injuries this year and is only on the way back now, didn't even expect to see him run these Champs until the National Championships two weeks ago.

Joe_ Public · 09-08-2018 7:44pm

Delighted for Barr, such an impressive character. Does 3rd in the Europeans supersede 4th at the Olympics? Not sure but, as Derval says, its great to get something tangible to show for it and richly deserved.

Faugheen · 09-08-2018 7:54pm

I know it's a different race but hopefully this can put a bit of a spring in Reid's step. Two medals would be phenomenal.

walshb · 09-08-2018 7:55pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Delighted for Barr, such an impressive character. Does 3rd in the Europeans supersede 4th at the Olympics? Not sure but, as Derval says, its great to get something tangible to show for it and richly deserved.

No way it trumps 4th. Much deeper global field at Olympics

walshb · 09-08-2018 8:07pm

Not a sniff!

Faugheen · 09-08-2018 8:08pm

Shame that. Plenty more to come from him though. He'll break that record eventually.

Strazdas · 09-08-2018 8:09pm

walshb wrote: »

Not a sniff!

Disappointing : Reid started really well but inexplicably faded

Derval O'R reckons that the race was simply too fast and he is being a bit too hard on himself

Ted_YNWA · 09-08-2018 8:13pm

Faugheen wrote: »

I know it's a different race but hopefully this can put a bit of a spring in Reid's step. Two medals would be phenomenal.

Good Experience for him, still young.

Itziger · 09-08-2018 8:14pm

Strazdas wrote: »

walshb wrote: »

Not a sniff!

Disappointing : Reid started really well but inexplicably faded

Derval O'R reckons that the race was simply too fast and he is being a bit too hard on himself

Yeah, I thought that was simply too fast for him.

walshb · 09-08-2018 8:15pm

Is that the fastest time ever for a white man? I think it is..

Was a fast race..

Strazdas · 09-08-2018 8:18pm

Itziger wrote: »

Yeah, I thought that was simply too fast for him.

Yes, and if you're trailing and not in medal contention, it can throw you off. His first impression was that he had messed up somehow but it might be that he simply couldn't live with the speed of the race.

Plenty of time for him to improve in future anyway.

Joe_ Public · 09-08-2018 8:21pm

walshb wrote: »

Is that the fastest time ever for a white man? I think it is..

Was a fast race..

It wasn't a European record was it? Just a championship record i thought.

walshb · 09-08-2018 8:22pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

It wasn't a European record was it? Just a championship record i thought.

Just championship record..

Former world record holder, Minnea from Italy at 19.72 is record in Europe.

So that answers my question..he too being white..

honeybear · 09-08-2018 10:51pm

Just watched a few clips of Barr’s celebrations. David Gillick is super at interviewing (post race & family)

DONTMATTER · 09-08-2018 11:15pm

Great bronze for Barr!

Birdsong · 09-08-2018 11:42pm

honeybear wrote:

Just watched a few clips of Barrâ€™s celebrations. David Gillick is super at interviewing (post race & family)

Agree, he's very natural.

Joe_ Public · 09-08-2018 11:53pm

Not often I get to praise RTÉ but I think their athletics coverage is really good. I like Peter Collins, well informed and asks good questions. Panel of Sonia, Jerry and Derval is top notch. Derval I find especially good to listen to. And Gillick does bring a pretty decent balance of empathizing with the athletes and asking tough questions. If I have a complaint, it’s that they don’t use him enough. All in all a solid 8/10 for me.

rom · 10-08-2018 9:55am

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Not often I get to praise RTÉ but I think their athletics coverage is really good. I like Peter Collins, well informed and asks good questions. Panel of Sonia, Jerry and Derval is top notch. Derval I find especially good to listen to. And Gillick does bring a pretty decent balance of empathizing with the athletes and asking tough questions. If I have a complaint, it’s that they don’t use him enough. All in all a solid 8/10 for me.

A big improvement from the lows of two idiots who were giddy hunover commentating on the 50k in London knowing nothing about the sport. Or Marty going to the beach volleyball in 2012 also.

YFlyer · 10-08-2018 11:12am

Healy and Mageean through in their respective events.

Unusual that there are only 12 athletes in the 200m semifinal.

chasingpaper · 10-08-2018 11:29am

YFlyer 12 qualified from the heats. The top ranked ones were given a bye into the semis. This was across all the sprint events I think. It seems very unfair and gives the lower ranked athletes even less chance in the semis.

YFlyer · 10-08-2018 11:33am

chasingpaper wrote: »

YFlyer 12 qualified from the heats. The top ranked ones were given a bye into the semis. This was across all the sprint events I think. It seems very unfair and gives the lower ranked athletes even less chance in the semis.

Would have been better to have the heats the day before or if on the same day as the semi, have the heats just 2 hours beforehand.

Cork Boy 53 · 10-08-2018 11:40am

walshb wrote: »

No way it trumps 4th. Much deeper global field at Olympics

Granted but Barr had nothing to show for his placing in Rio. At least he has a medal this time. Regardless of the standard of the field, Irish athletes don't win medals that often, not since the golden era of the sport in Ireland anyway.

Cork Boy 53 · 10-08-2018 11:46am

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Not often I get to praise RTÉ but I think their athletics coverage is really good. I like Peter Collins, well informed and asks good questions. Panel of Sonia, Jerry and Derval is top notch. Derval I find especially good to listen to. And Gillick does bring a pretty decent balance of empathizing with the athletes and asking tough questions. If I have a complaint, it’s that they don’t use him enough. All in all a solid 8/10 for me.

I haven`t been watching all that much of RTE`s coverage of the Europeans. Has George Hamilton made any major commentary blunders? He was criticised during the World Cup in Russia for a fair amount of clangers. I just wonder if the same thing is happening in Berlin.

Goose76 · 10-08-2018 12:44pm

does anyone have the tv schedule for tonight?

YFlyer · 10-08-2018 12:50pm

RTE 2 at 6 pm

Timetable:
http://www.european-athletics.org/competitions/european-athletics-championships/2018/schedules-results/day=2018-08-10/index.html?intcmp=sr-byday

YFlyer · 10-08-2018 12:53pm

In her heats, Phil Healy has third fastest season best.

Joe_ Public · 10-08-2018 1:08pm

YFlyer wrote: »

In her heats, Phil Healy has third fastest season best.

Will she need a PB to have any chance of making the final? Looks a tough s/f draw for her.

Sheridan81 · 10-08-2018 1:17pm

rom wrote: »

A big improvement from the lows of two idiots who were giddy hunover commentating on the 50k in London knowing nothing about the sport. Or Marty going to the beach volleyball in 2012 also.

I hope you haven't had the misfortune to listen to Stephen Alkin commentating on the diving. Or anything really.

Mageean looked good in her heat. She has a chance of a bronze.

Birdie Num Num · 10-08-2018 1:27pm

YFlyer wrote: »

Would have been better to have the heats the day before or if on the same day as the semi, have the heats just 2 hours beforehand.

Nah, no difference same day, it's only 200m. Better to have a runout earlier in the day either way. She should be quicker in the evening too. Not sure how the wind is but the evening looks to very favourable weather wise. Hopefully she'll be at least 8th fastest tonight and hopefully she'll get another 2 outings on Sunday with her teammates.

Joe_ Public · 10-08-2018 1:28pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Granted but Barr had nothing to show for his placing in Rio. At least he has a medal this time. Regardless of the standard of the field, Irish athletes don't win medals that often, not since the golden era of the sport in Ireland anyway.

I think that's the point. An olympic 4th is obviously a superior achievement and often will ensure a spot in the collective memory as the likes of Eamon Coghlan and Sean Drea will testify, but the lack of hardware is still a telling factor. Give athletes the choice of an Olympic 4th or European 3rd and i'd be fairly confident a fair percentage would take the medal every time.

YFlyer · 10-08-2018 1:30pm

Birdie Num Num wrote: »

Nah, no difference same day, it's only 200m. Better to have a runout earlier in the day either way. She should be quicker in the evening too. Not sure how the wind is but the evening looks to very favourable weather wise. Hopefully she'll be at least 8th fastest tonight and hopefully she'll get another 2 outings on Sunday with her teammates.

Its the long wait I was thinking of.

Birdie Num Num · 10-08-2018 1:31pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Will she need a PB to have any chance of making the final? Looks a tough s/f draw for her.

Schippers aside I would have said it was the handier of the 3 semis to get.

YFlyer · 10-08-2018 1:33pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Will she need a PB to have any chance of making the final? Looks a tough s/f draw for her.

its 4th fastest now for some reason.

Yeah she will probably need a PB alright to qualify.

walshb · 10-08-2018 1:41pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Granted but Barr had nothing to show for his placing in Rio. At least he has a medal this time. Regardless of the standard of the field, Irish athletes don't win medals that often, not since the golden era of the sport in Ireland anyway.

If it's just about medals then it's a better achievement.....

If talking about times then it's not a better achievement.....

If taking into consideration the field and event and depth it's not a better achievement.

Anyway, great result.

Build up to Berlin European Championships

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