Are transexual women attractive to hetero men?

gormdubhgorm · 07-08-2018 11:40PM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

What's so difficult about calling people what they'd like to be called? We manage just fine with everyone having their own name, which could be any one of thousands we know, or one of millions we've never even heard before. It could be unpronounceable. It might be written with a different alphabet. We ask a person what they're named, then we call them that. If we get it wrong, they correct us and we say sorry and do it right next time. It's grand.

Compared to that a few extra pronouns is nothing.

A few extra pro-nouns? Would you come off it it is laughable.
Just because people cannot accept they were male/female at one point and decided to multilate themsleves for thier own peice of mind a non-sensical new grammar has to be invented to mask over their delusion?

If someone cannot pronounce a persons name they get a nickname like those Chinese that get called 'Bob'.

Nobody in thier right mind is going to go on with this zee and zim.
It is unintentional comedy stuff invented by americans.

It reminds me of the Micky Flanagan sketch about wigs:

Except we have to colude in the illusion that these people are not him or her, but zee and zim.
Particular Americans would be horrified if you called a transgender person him/her because of the makey uppy policitcal correctness trend surrounding it etc.

Annasopra · 07-08-2018 11:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Katelyn Jenner won woman of the year?
I've seen tonnes of trans people declaring "I am a woman" or "I am a man".

I wasn't quoting anyone specifically so I was wondering if people who genuinely thought they were biologically the opposite sex may be displaying signs of mental illness.

It wasn't an attack.

I didnt say it was an attack to be fair.

The term "woman" can also include trans women. It doesnt necessarily mean "a biological natal woman"

Again I dont think any trans person who was assigned male at birth and identifies as a woman claims to be "a biological woman"

07-08-2018 11:52PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I didnt say it was an attack to be fair.

The term "woman" can also include trans women. It doesnt necessarily mean "a biological natal woman"

Again I dont think any trans person who was assigned male at birth and identifies as a woman claims to be "a biological woman"

This is where i think there is a problem.

I have to be called a cis man now in some conversations because "man" is redefined to include trans men and it would be considered rude to not accept that they are men even though you dont think that any trans person would claim to be a biological man. And a woman can have a penis and father a child. and a man can carry a baby in his womb and give birth.

Edit: We have gone way off topic. Sorry OP

gormdubhgorm · 08-08-2018 12:02AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This is where i think there is a problem.

I have to be called a cis man now in some conversations because "man" is redefined to include trans men and it would be considered rude to not accept that they are men even though you dont think that any trans person would claim to be a biological man. And a woman can have a penis and father a child. and a man can carry a baby in his womb and give birth.

Edit: We have gone way off topic. Sorry OP

I suppose linguists might find transgender women attractive at this rate?

jbt123 · 08-08-2018 12:05AM

P_1 wrote: »

... so maybe cut them a little bit of slack. Until you've walked a mile in someone's shoes and all that...

Would that be in high heels or a pair of size 10 loafers...

jbt123 · 08-08-2018 12:06AM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I suppose linguists might find transgender women attractive at this rate?

If they're cunning enough, I suppose so..

pleas advice · 08-08-2018 01:34AM

Thats a fallacy, ..oh

Outlaw Pete · 08-08-2018 03:26AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XENwnPs-Is

Calhoun · 08-08-2018 03:34AM

Apparently real men like trans women, so I assume that trans women like men from that statement alone.

P_1 · 08-08-2018 05:11AM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Why would you feel sh1tty? Its a joke.
In years to come people will be laughing at this type of stuff.
It has to have been invented by american loolaas it makes no sense whatsoever.
People pop out male or female.
If people want to chop bits off or add bits on, that is up to them.
But to try and create a whole language around it that is daft.

I mean how would you translate all them pro-nouns into Irish for example?
Stick a fada on it and hope for the best?

Also where does it stop would I be permitted too say 'yer man' or 'yer wan' ?
Or do I just last z's in it and hope for the best?
Example:
"The head on zer zan"

Well I guess its because you wouldn't laugh at someone's name to their face so why would you do the same with the pronouns they ask you to refer to them with. Politeness more than anything

pickarooney · 08-08-2018 06:00AM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

What's so difficult about calling people what they'd like to be called? We manage just fine with everyone having their own name, which could be any one of thousands we know, or one of millions we've never even heard before. It could be unpronounceable. It might be written with a different alphabet. We ask a person what they're named, then we call them that. If we get it wrong, they correct us and we say sorry and do it right next time. It's grand.

Compared to that a few extra pronouns is nothing.

How did Irish manage with the other thousands of new concepts that were invented after the language died and got put on life support? It was fine. Here you are ag surfail ar an idirlíon gan fadhb.

People are awful quick to invent problems with stuff rather than try to understand it.

In what situation would you use anything other than 'you' to address a person directly?

hatrickpatrick · 08-08-2018 06:03AM

Personally from me it's a definite no. And I find the movement among some SJWs to shame men like me for our sexual preference utterly bizarre.

suicide_circus · 08-08-2018 06:10AM

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Lemongrease · 08-08-2018 06:15AM

manonboard wrote: »

I'm hetro cis male.
Someone once gave me a thought experiment that was "Think of some really sexy women's clothes you like. Like a lacy bra, some underwear etc.. Now do you find that attractive?"
"Yes"
"Well that's not a biological women you find attractive. That's fabric material. You're attractive to things that represent to you stuff you have previously found yourself attracted to. Some is down to biology and culture, some is down to just practicing your attraction to it. So now you know that you can be attracted to things that are not women".

It was a quite a blunt, but interesting eye opener many years ago.

I would not date a trans woman most likely. A lot of their life they were living a male life. Their stories and life would represent this. Parts of their personality would be formed around this. It's not about just being attracted to a body. It's a whole life of a person in that body. It's fine to not what to be with someone because of stuff they've don't in their past. It's not judgemental to be content for them but still serve your own preferences.

What is cis? Is that short for sissy?

08-08-2018 06:43AM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Again I dont think any trans person who was assigned male at birth and identifies as a woman claims to be "a biological woman"

You mean born a baby boy? That's what it is. I wasn't assigned anything but my name at birth. Trash talk.

08-08-2018 06:46AM

Lemongrease wrote: »

What is cis? Is that short for sissy?

The opposite of trans. So just what you were born as. It's a bit of a redundant term when not discussing trans issues.

Lemongrease · 08-08-2018 06:48AM

Omackeral wrote: »

The opposite of trans. So just what you were born as. It's a bit of a redundant term when not discussing trans issues.

Never heard it before. So someone who doesn’t want their pee-pee removed? Never understood get rid of the pee-pee sure that’s the of the orgasmics then ?

tedpan · 08-08-2018 07:56AM

Who knows what goes on in people's heads? You fancy who you fancy..

Welcome to boards OP

Brian? · 08-08-2018 08:27AM

Working class heroes wrote: »

I’d try anything once.

My motto is: I’d try anything twice. You might’ve done it wrong the first time.

AnneFrank · 08-08-2018 08:35AM

These topics are just crazy.
If by transexual woman you mean a man dressed up as a woman then he's simply gay.
You cannot change from man to woman or vice versa no matter what surgery you have.
It's just like dressing up for halloween

Annasopra · 08-08-2018 08:35AM

Lemongrease wrote: »

What is cis? Is that short for sissy?

Short for cisgender. Which is the opposite of transgender. Like Straight/heterosexual is the opposite of gay

08-08-2018 08:59AM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Short for cisgender. Which is the opposite of transgender. Like Straight/heterosexual is the opposite of gay

Where does "cis" come from?

Is an important distinction if I am cis?

And can I use different pronouns if I feel like?

Lemongrease · 08-08-2018 09:00AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Where does "cis" come from?

Is an important distinction if I am cis?

And can I use different pronouns if I feel like?

Think it comes from sissy or cissy in this case.

pickarooney · 08-08-2018 09:03AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Where does "cis" come from?

Is an important distinction if I am cis?

And can I use different pronouns if I feel like?

It's a prefix that's been in use for a long time. 'cisalpine' and 'cisatlantic' mean 'on this side of...' or 'on the same side as (me)'.

PlaneSpeeking · 08-08-2018 09:03AM

Lemongrease wrote: »

Never heard it before. So someone who doesn’t want their pee-pee removed? Never understood get rid of the pee-pee sure that’s the of the orgasmics then ?

No, you effectively turn it inside out and create lady parts - complete with orgasm centre!

PlaneSpeeking · 08-08-2018 09:05AM

Omackeral wrote: »

You mean born a baby boy? That's what it is. I wasn't assigned anything but my name at birth. Trash talk.

I'm fairly certain the midwife said to the mother and father "congratulations, she's a healthy baby girl".

Not "We've decided to socially assign them as "female" but you may wish to ignore that".

suicide_circus · 08-08-2018 09:05AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

No, you effectively turn it inside out and create lady parts - complete with orgasm centre!

but it will still produce an essentially "male" orgasm I presume?

P_1 · 08-08-2018 09:05AM

AnneFrank wrote: »

These topics are just crazy.
If by transexual woman you mean a man dressed up as a woman then he's simply gay.
You cannot change from man to woman or vice versa no matter what surgery you have.
It's just like dressing up for halloween

That is quite simply not the case for a lot of people. I suggest you read more on the topic

PlaneSpeeking · 08-08-2018 09:06AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

but it will still produce an essentially "male" orgasm I presume?

Not a clue - sorry!

pickarooney · 08-08-2018 09:08AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

but it will still produce an essentially "male" orgasm I presume?

That's a doozy of a question! We need Masters and Johnson on the case!

Are transexual women attractive to hetero men?

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