The Quiet Man

Laphroaig52 · 31-07-2018 01:44PM

Bob Harris wrote: »

It's all well and good having a laugh and a joke about it but you are only pouring petrol on the fires of misogyny and sexism in society. Shameful.

I like the bit where he gave her a kick in the arse.

ohnonotgmail · 31-07-2018 01:44PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

She was married at 18 and had two sets of twins. Was there a point there ?

Bit sexist of you to assume what you did eh ? Bordering on slut-shaming.

Yeah i would not have thought that was too unusual back then. One of my sets of great grandparents had 9 pregnancies by the time my great grandmother was 33. She was basically pregnant every 15 months or so.

PlaneSpeeking · 31-07-2018 01:56PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Yeah i would not have thought that was too unusual back then. One of my sets of great grandparents had 9 pregnancies by the time my great grandmother was 33. She was basically pregnant every 15 months or so.

It was a farm in Co. Down - I imagine social activities were a tad limited after dark!!!

ohnonotgmail · 31-07-2018 01:57PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

It was a farm in Co. Down - I imagine social activities were a tad limited after dark!!!

Edgware · 31-07-2018 02:17PM

Bob Harris wrote: »

Disgusting, that line needs to be edited out. What if children heard that?
That type of chauvinistic and sexist treatment of women has no place in modern society. Apalling.

Will someone please think of the children?

JohnMc1 · 31-07-2018 02:49PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Oh I'd love to see a "feminist retelling" of Superman.

Bloody man. Typical patriarchy saying I NEED saving just because I'm a woman I must be helpless ?? How dare youuuuuuuuuu....... SPLAT

Helen Slater as Supergirl says Hello.

PlaneSpeeking · 31-07-2018 03:38PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Helen Slater as Supergirl says Hello.

Good point!

We have a young wan in the office who makes Rosemary McCabe look like Chubby Brown in outlook.

She keeps whining on about "there's never been a woman superhero type character till Gal Gadot in Wonderwoman". SAw the film like 12 times, maybe more I tried not to listen.

Childish it may be but someone not far away from this fine poster may or may not have covered her desk, chair and coat with pictures of Xena Warrior Princess.

Two days later the boss did it with Lara Croft!!! The la Jolie version!

JohnMc1 · 31-07-2018 03:49PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Good point!

We have a young wan in the office who makes Rosemary McCabe look like Chubby Brown in outlook.

She keeps whining on about "there's never been a woman superhero type character till Gal Gadot in Wonderwoman". SAw the film like 12 times, maybe more I tried not to listen.

Childish it may be but someone not far away from this fine poster may or may not have covered her desk, chair and coat with pictures of Xena Warrior Princess.

Two days later the boss did it with Lara Croft!!! The la Jolie version!

Clearly she doesn't follow superhero comics/movies.

There's the Supergirl movie I mentioned. The 2 Angelina Jolie Lara Croft movies. Halle Berry as Catwoman. Plus Scar Jo as Black Widow may not have had a solo movie but she has been in a prominent position in the Avengers movies. Same thing with Halle Berry as Storm in X-Men and Jennifer Lawrence as Mystigue.

PlaneSpeeking · 31-07-2018 03:52PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Clearly she doesn't follow superhero comics/movies.

There's the Supergirl movie I mentioned. The 2 Angelina Jolie Lara Croft movies. Halle Berry as Catwoman. Plus Scar Jo as Black Widow may not have had a solo movie but she has been in a prominent position in the Avengers movies. Same thing with Halle Berry as Storm in X-Men and Jennifer Lawrence as Mystigue.

I don't think she watches any tbh - she did once chastise me for "encouraging sex crimes" because I binge watched The Fall over a bank holiday weekend.

Not dealing with a full deck clearly.

jimgoose · 31-07-2018 03:55PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I don't think she watches any tbh - she did once chastise me for "encouraging sex crimes" because I binge watched The Fall over a bank holiday weekend.

Not dealing with a full deck clearly.

They don't make kick-ass female action/superhero characters like they used to. Barbarella, Durham Red, Nest the druidess... :cool::D:D

PlaneSpeeking · 31-07-2018 03:59PM

jimgoose wrote: »

They don't make kick-ass female action/superhero characters like they used to. Barbarella, Durham Red, Nest the druidess... :cool::D:D

Oh Barbarella, now you are talking!!!

Sunhill · 31-07-2018 04:22PM

The film 'The Quiet Man' is adapted from a story of the same title in a book by Maurice Walsh which was originally entitled (I think) 'Green Rushes' but which got its name changed to 'The Quiet Man' when the film came out.

The novel is a series of 12 short stories with the same characters and very closely intertwined yet strangely workable as standalones. I first read the novel in 1971 and I still consider it the best novel set in Ireland which I have ever read. It has humour, drama, sentimentality, action and even a bit of history with the Tan war in the background.

Anyway, with regard to the subject on hand. Paddy Bawn Brosnan and his wife Ellen Roe Danagher were very much in love. Far from being in any way chauvinistic, Paddy Bawn was a returned Yank with a bit of money and he was always looking out to buy Ellen Roe anything which might please her or lighten her workload and he deferred to her judgement and authority all matters -- in the end!.

This is a taste of the reason why I consider the John Wayne film the greatest abomination which ever came out of Hollywood -- no mean achievement, considering the competition.

PlaneSpeeking · 31-07-2018 04:27PM

Sunhill wrote: »

The film 'The Quiet Man' is adapted from a story of the same title in a book by Maurice Walsh which was originally entitled (I think) 'Green Rushes' but which got its name changed to 'The Quiet Man' when the film came out.

The novel is a series of 12 short stories with the same characters and very closely intertwined yet strangely workable as standalones. I first read the novel in 1971 and I still consider it the best novel set in Ireland which I have ever read. It has humour, drama, sentimentality, action and even a bit of history with the Tan war in the background.

Anyway, with regard to the subject on hand. Paddy Bawn Brosnan and his wife Ellen Roe Danagher were very much in love. Far from being in any way chauvinistic, Paddy Bawn was a returned Yank with a bit of money and he was always looking out to buy Ellen Roe anything which might please her or lighten her workload and he deferred to her judgement and authority all matters -- in the end!.

This is a taste of the reason why I consider the John Wayne film the greatest abomination which ever came out of Hollywood -- no mean achievement, considering the competition.

Seen the film and never knew that - thank you!

blinding · 31-07-2018 04:36PM

Maureen’s O’Hara’s character was very aggressive in that film . Jeez , women can be very aggressive !

Sunhill · 31-07-2018 05:10PM

blinding wrote: »

Maureen’s O’Hara’s character was very aggressive in that film . Jeez , women can be very aggressive !

I don't want to spoil this thread by dragging up Maurice Walsh to contradict the film after every submission but in the novel Maureen O'Hara's character was a woman who had been under the thumb of her bullying, miserly brother until she married. Just a quote about visitors to her home after she got married: "Ellen Roe put them at their ease with her smile that was shy and, at the same time, frank and welcoming."

I managed to get a second-hand copy through the internet a couple of years ago. It's not scarce but expensive enough for a good copy. The 1971 copy was printed by The Kerryman, Tralee and the present one was printed in India but both suffer from having the pages bound with glue at the spine and they very easily come loose one by one. ISBN 0 86281 307 7

Sunhill · 31-07-2018 06:01PM

HERE IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLOT OF 'THE QUIET MAN' FROM THE NOVEL. I'M LEAVING OUT A GREAT DEAL OF INTERESTING AND ENTERTAINING DETAIL.

Paddy Bawn Brosnan went to the States at the age of 17 and came home fifteen years later having won fame and a modest fortune as a boxer. He bought a small farm on Knockanore hill and settled down to enjoy some peace after the hectic life in America. He kept to himself mostly and was referred to as The Quiet Man for this reason.

After a while he noticed a neighbour, Ellen Roe Danagher, and was attracted to her but knew that he had no hope of going near her because of her possessive brother, a bully and a miser who wanted Ellen Roe at home as a cheap housekeeper.

But when the owner of the farm adjoining the Danaghers died leaving a fine spread of land, money in the bank and a fairly good-looking widow, Ellen Roe's brother got to thinking he might have a chance with the widow and acquire the inheritance. After the mourning time he went to the widow but she told him she wouldn't go into a house with another woman in it already, he had to get rid of Ellen Roe.

Danagher had noticed Paddy Bawn's interest in Ellen Roe and now he went to him and told him he could have her but he'd only give a hundred pounds of a dowry with her, paying the dowry later on at the end of the harvest. Paddy Bawn wasn't worried about the dowry and they got married.

Time went on, a child was born, but Red Will Danagher didn't pay the dowry. Paddy Bawn saw nothing to be concerned about but his wife was troubled. People were saying that Paddy Bawn was too cowardly to ask Red Will for the money, that Danagher had pulled a fast one on him. Ellen Roe was ashamed.

Finally, on a day when the corn was being threshed in Danaghers, Paddy and Ellen Roe and the child went to the house. Ellen Roe told her brother that she would stay there with the child if the money wasn't paid. This would bring shame on Danagher so he went to get the money. He brought it back in a ball in his fist and gave it to Paddy Bawn. Paddy Bawn took the money and, without looking at it, opened the firebox door of the thresher and threw the money in.

This enraged Danagher and he went for Paddy Bawn with his fists. Paddy Bawn, a trained boxer, easily dodged all Danagaher's blows and landed every one of his own, but Danagher was such a strong man that it took a world-class demonstration of boxing before he was finally flattened. Paddy Bawn, Ellen Roe and the child returned home to resume their quiet life.

The Crowman · 31-07-2018 06:17PM

OP whatever you don't watch Quadrophenia. 1979 movie, set in the early 60's and in one scene in particular showing traffic they made no effort to hide the fact that the cars are clearly late 70's.

Star Bingo · 31-07-2018 06:27PM

I know all there is about the quiet man ..

oh wait, wrong movie

Atoms for Peace · 31-07-2018 06:34PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Any young impressionable minds that watch The Quiet Man and think it something to live by are beyond saving.

Like ET?

Bob Harris · 01-08-2018 07:41AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

She was married at 18 and had two sets of twins. Was there a point there ?

Bit sexist of you to assume what you did eh ? Bordering on slut-shaming.

You're the one making the association between your grandmother bearing 6 children when still in her 20's and slut shaming. Just pointing that out.

PlaneSpeeking · 01-08-2018 08:49AM

Bob Harris wrote: »

You're the one making the association between your grandmother bearing 6 children when still in her 20's and slut shaming. Just pointing that out.

Yeah, definite WUM, Ignore time.

whisky_galore · 01-08-2018 08:52AM

Sunhill wrote: »

HERE IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLOT OF 'THE QUIET MAN' FROM THE NOVEL. I'M LEAVING OUT A GREAT DEAL OF INTERESTING AND ENTERTAINING DETAIL.

That's fine, we'll buy the book if we're bothered.

BattleCorp · 01-08-2018 08:53AM

Maureen O'Hara was a very fine looking bird in her day.

PlaneSpeeking · 01-08-2018 08:56AM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Maureen O'Hara was a very fine looking bird in her day.

Back when women were women - cf Jane Russell's publicity shot for The Outlaw.

The Quiet Man

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