And the Oscar goes too....2018 All Stars & Footballer of the Year.

ProudDUB · 26-07-2018 10:19am #1

Seriously bored at work, soooooo...

Footballer of the Year: Dammed if I know
Young Footballer of the Year: David Clifford

All Stars

1. Rory Beggan (stand out candidate so far, but a doubt if Monaghan don't make it to the AI semi finals stage at least imo)
2. Johnny Cooper
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Brian Fenton
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. Damien Comer
14. Michael Murphy
15. Conor McManus

Ok boys and girls, fill in the blanks. Remember under the new format, you don't need to nominate someone in their particular postion, just in their general line.

Am passing the hurling baton over to more knowledgeable folk than me.

jr86 · 26-07-2018 10:31am

I expect Galway to get to the final and in that case I can see Comer, Shane Walsh and Tom Flynn being the main contenders, with Eoghan Kerin also a great shout, and Cathal Sweeney and Sean Kelly more outside bets

I don't think anyone from Kerry will get one unless they make the semi and if they lose a semi it'll probably only be one

Other losing semi finalist will probably have one too. Donegal may get one if they don't make semi as a provincial winner

I expect Dublin to win the AI and hoover up a few, but they'll be mainly based on their semi and final. Even Mannion, KK and COC who haven't really set the world alight so far could get ones yet - its all recency effect

I think Shane Walsh is a decent bet for FOTY

Fr Tod Umptious · 26-07-2018 11:50am

jr86 wrote: »

I expect Galway to get to the final and in that case I can see Comer, Shane Walsh and Tom Flynn being the main contenders, with Eoghan Kerin also a great shout, and Cathal Sweeney and Sean Kelly more outside bets

I don't think anyone from Kerry will get one unless they make the semi and if they lose a semi it'll probably only be one

Other losing semi finalist will probably have one too. Donegal may get one if they don't make semi as a provincial winner

I expect Dublin to win the AI and hoover up a few, but they'll be mainly based on their semi and final. Even Mannion, KK and COC who haven't really set the world alight so far could get ones yet - its all recency effect

I think Shane Walsh is a decent bet for FOTY

David Clifford gets one regardless of Kerry's finishing position.

Even if they get to the SF I can't think of another Kerry player getting one.

Utopia Parkway · 26-07-2018 12:16pm

I thought Clifford would be nailed on for Young Player of the year but if Kerry don't make the semis and Bryan Howard has a couple more games in the semis and final like the last two he just had he may even nick that award.

homerjay2005 · 26-07-2018 12:31pm

Comer in but no Ian Burke?

burke been galways best player this year - Comer has been poor or average at best in most games apart from last sunday.

monaghan #7 is a shoe in so far also, i cant remember his name.

jr86 · 26-07-2018 12:37pm

Completely forgot Ian Burke myself actually. He'll surely get one

With himself Mcmanus and Comer competing in the FF line and probably a Dublin player or two if they win the AI, I don't see Clifford getting one if Kerry go out in the super 8s.

Always number 1 · 26-07-2018 12:38pm

From a Dublin POV based on season so far - Cooper, Howard, Fenton and maybe McCarthy.
Murchan could be an outside bet if Dublin make the final and he continues the form he has shown the past 2 games.
Few suggestions below:

1) Beggan (Mon) or Lavelle (Gal)
2) Kyne (Gal)
3) Cooper (Dub)
4) Kelly (Kil)
5) Howard (Dub) (sadly won't get young player of the year because they've been dying to give it to Clifford since he was first year minor but if Dublin get to the final he might be an outside chance of POTY)
6) McCarthy (Dub)
7) Harte (Tyr)
8) Fenton (Dub)
9) Murphy (Don)
10) Burke (Gal)
11) N Flynn (Kil)
12) Sludden (Tyr)
13) Clifford (Ky)
14) Walsh (Gal)
15) McManus (Mon)

Honourable mentions Kilkenny (Dub) McAliskey (Tyr) O'Shea (Ky) Feely (Kil) Wylie (Mon) McCaffrey (Dub) Flynn (Kil) Murtagh (Ros)

homerjay2005 · 26-07-2018 12:41pm

jr86 wrote: »

Completely forgot Ian Burke myself actually. He'll surely get one

With himself Mcmanus and Comer competing in the FF line and probably a Dublin player or two if they win the AI, I don't see Clifford getting one if Kerry go out in the super 8s.

several players have gotten awards ourside of the positons they have played in.

comer as it stands, will not get an all star. theres 2 if not 3 galway forwards ahead of him.

jr86 · 26-07-2018 12:46pm

In fairness Comer absolutely cut loose v Sligo (I was at it in Salthill) and ran Mayo ragged early on before they went very defensive after DOC's red card. He might have been quiet by his standards against Roscommon and Kerry but he was superb again the last day and he will be their main focal point in all their remaining matches.

He's their captain, and main big name along with Shane Walsh, if they make a final (which I think they will) he's a near certainty really

C__MC · 26-07-2018 12:49pm

Clifford will be an all star

The media are already in love

C__MC · 26-07-2018 12:51pm

If Galway knock Monaghan out and mc manus is average does he get one?

IMO the stand out Monaghan player has been karl o Connell

Fann Linn · 26-07-2018 1:05pm

As is the norm lately, the consolation prize of POTY will go to one of the losing finalists.

OldMrBrennan83 · 26-07-2018 1:06pm

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castletownman · 26-07-2018 1:11pm

Niall Kearns has enjoyed a fine debut championship at midfield for Monaghan too, but I can see Murphy been allocated there to accommodate a couple more forwards.

Beggan

Kyne
Cooper
EB Gallagher (outstanding all year, but injury might see him miss out now)

Howard
McCarthy
O'Connell

Fenton
Murphy

Sludden
Walsh
Kilkenny

Clifford
Comer
McManus

Seems the most fairly distributed, as things stand

keeponhurling · 26-07-2018 1:31pm

Ciaran Kilkenny will probably get one too

C__MC · 26-07-2018 1:32pm

David Clarke for GK

flasher0030 · 26-07-2018 1:42pm

Always number 1 wrote: »

From a Dublin POV based on season so far - Cooper, Howard, Fenton and maybe McCarthy.
Murchan could be an outside bet if Dublin make the final and he continues the form he has shown the past 2 games.
Few suggestions below:

1) Beggan (Mon) or Lavelle (Gal)
2) Kyne (Gal)
3) Cooper (Dub)
4) Kelly (Kil)
5) Howard (Dub) (sadly won't get young player of the year because they've been dying to give it to Clifford since he was first year minor but if Dublin get to the final he might be an outside chance of POTY)
6) McCarthy (Dub)
7) Harte (Tyr)
8) Fenton (Dub)
9) Murphy (Don)
10) Burke (Gal)
11) N Flynn (Kil)
12) Sludden (Tyr)
13) Clifford (Ky)
14) Walsh (Gal)
15) McManus (Mon)

Honourable mentions Kilkenny (Dub) McAliskey (Tyr) O'Shea (Ky) Feely (Kil) Wylie (Mon) McCaffrey (Dub) Flynn (Kil) Murtagh (Ros)

Just wondering; how could Howrd get player of the year, if he doesn't win young player of the year. If they are saying that Clifford has had a better year then him in one category, then how can they say the Howard is better than Clifford in a different category, but based on same criteria.
Watching Howard play in the past 2 games has been a joy. What a fetcher of the ball.

MfMan · 26-07-2018 1:50pm

Sean Kelly for YPOTY? Quietly excellent all year; also on the NUIG team that reached Sigerson final.

Slattsy · 26-07-2018 2:02pm

Aidan O'Shea nailed on, again.

Stoner · 26-07-2018 2:15pm

MfMan wrote:

Sean Kelly for YPOTY? Quietly excellent all year; also on the NUIG team that reached Sigerson final.

It's only the championship I think

shrewdness · 26-07-2018 3:09pm

I can see Clifford getting the YPOTY but not an all star, if the competition in the FF line is particularly tough. They tend to spread the awards out like that at times. That's unless he's unreal in his next 1/2 games and puts it beyond doubt.

blanch152 · 26-07-2018 3:11pm

C__MC wrote: »

David Clarke for GK

Have to agree. Tom Parsons and Seamie O'Shea deserve one each too, as their injuries robbed Mayo of this year's All-Ireland. The normal awards for Lee Keegan (who would have ensured they beat Galway and the whole summer different) and the two O'Connor brothers to round out Mayo's six All-Stars.

Oops, I forgot Andy Moran. Make it seven, they all deserve it.

Post made in jest

Utopia Parkway · 26-07-2018 3:40pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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Lavelle has been pretty good this year but hard to justify giving any keeper it other than Beggan.

Hulk Hands · 26-07-2018 3:41pm

castletownman wrote: »

Niall Kearns has enjoyed a fine debut championship at midfield for Monaghan too, but I can see Murphy been allocated there to accommodate a couple more forwards.

Beggan

Kyne
Cooper
EB Gallagher (outstanding all year, but injury might see him miss out now)

Howard
McCarthy
O'Connell

Fenton
Murphy

Sludden
Walsh
Kilkenny

Clifford
Comer
McManus

Seems the most fairly distributed, as things stand

Seems a fair enough mix. Couple of expections...Kerin way before Kyne, best Galway defender by a distance. Don't think EBG can get one really now despite the excellent year, so maybe whoever puts his hand up from now on in that position. Half back line is very solid. Kilkenny doesn't deserve one yet but will likely be a key figure going forward. Similar for Comer who'll probably be fighting with Burke for one spot. Beggan Fenton and Murphy look the certs at this stage. Howard surely very close also

Pogue eile · 26-07-2018 4:00pm

Its quite hilarious to see the Dub's obsession with Mayo and all things Mayo, its a back handed compliment if anything I guess. You would have thought that the obsession would be the other way around?

flasher0030 · 26-07-2018 4:16pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

Its quite hilarious to see the Dub's obsession with Mayo and all things Mayo, its a back handed compliment if anything I guess. You would have thought that the obsession would be the other way around?

The are gone delirious, now that their path to a 4th all-Ireland will be unchallenged.

equivariant · 26-07-2018 4:20pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Seriously bored at work, soooooo...

Footballer of the Year: Dammed if I know
Young Footballer of the Year: David Clifford

All Stars

1. Rory Beggan (stand out candidate so far, but a doubt if Monaghan don't make it to the AI semi finals stage at least imo)
2. Johnny Cooper
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Brian Fenton
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. Damien Comer
14. Michael Murphy
15. Conor McManus

Ok boys and girls, fill in the blanks. Remember under the new format, you don't need to nominate someone in their particular postion, just in their general line.

Am passing the hurling baton over to more knowledgeable folk than me.

Don't see why Comer is there? OTOH if he does get an all-star Galway might go close to Dublin cos he would want to be MOTM in the semi and final.

ProudDUB · 26-07-2018 4:42pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

Its quite hilarious to see the Dub's obsession with Mayo and all things Mayo, its a back handed compliment if anything I guess. You would have thought that the obsession would be the other way around?

Ah jest can't quit yew. (Geddit?

)

cj maxx · 26-07-2018 7:47pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Seriously bored at work, soooooo...

Footballer of the Year: Dammed if I know
Young Footballer of the Year: David Clifford

All Stars

1. Rory Beggan (stand out candidate so far, but a doubt if Monaghan don't make it to the AI semi finals stage at least imo)
2. Johnny Cooper
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Brian Fenton
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. Damien Comer
14. Michael Murphy
15. Conor McManus

Ok boys and girls, fill in the blanks. Remember under the new format, you don't need to nominate someone in their particular postion, just in their general line.

Am passing the hurling baton over to more knowledgeable folk than me.

Kal O’Connell at no 7? He’s been excellent all year

keeponhurling · 31-07-2018 10:39am

I wonder will the Super 8s structure mean a wider spread of counties getting football All-Stars.
In the past, if you didn't at least make a semi-final, you've probably not played enough games. But now a team knocked out on the Super 8s has still played a lot.

flasher0030 · 31-07-2018 11:24am

keeponhurling wrote: »

I wonder will the Super 8s structure mean a wider spread of counties getting football All-Stars.
In the past, if you didn't at least make a semi-final, you've probably not played enough games. But now a team knocked out on the Super 8s has still played a lot.

Good point. Rory Beggan could definitely benefit from this. If Kerry pip Monaghan this weekend, he would still be nailed on as favourite if he has decent game on Saturday, unless one of the other keepers does something exceptional in the next month.

ProudDUB · 31-07-2018 12:06pm

keeponhurling wrote: »

I wonder will the Super 8s structure mean a wider spread of counties getting football All-Stars.
In the past, if you didn't at least make a semi-final, you've probably not played enough games. But now a team knocked out on the Super 8s has still played a lot.

With the quaterfinals now being three games and not one, they will only have played two extra games. It's a decent increase over previous years, but it's not a massive amount. You do make a good point though. However, it works both ways . If any bolters have more games to come from the pack and make a case for an All Star, the leading candidates from the teams that make the AI final, also have more games to copper fasten their own worthiness of an All Star.

ProudDUB · 04-09-2018 1:04pm

May as well give this a bump then so....

castletownman · 04-09-2018 4:36pm

Can't see beyond the Sunday Game TOTY so:

Cluxton

Cooper
Hampsey
SB Gallagher

O'Connell
McCarthy
McCaffrey

Fenton
Cavanagh

Walsh
KK
Howard

Mannion
McManus
Clifford

Beggan the unluckiest to miss out. Drew Wylie may well get in ahead of Gallagher though. I would have Michael Murphy at centre-forward, with Kilkenny pushed inside instead of one of the corner-forwards, but I suppose Mannion nailed it on with his semi-final and final displays, and Clifford has the media-drive behind him.

FOTY: Ciaran Kilkenny
YFOTY: David Clifford

Slattsy · 04-09-2018 8:02pm

Kilkenny player of the year.

Howard young player of the year. (close with Clifford though)

Always number 1 · 04-09-2018 8:59pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Kilkenny player of the year.

Howard young player of the year. (close with Clifford though)

The problem with the Player of the Year is you could in theory have McCaffrey, Kilkenny and possibly Colm Cavanagh nominated. The 2 Dubs split the vote so Cavanagh gets it. Happened last year with Andy Moran and the year before with Lee Keegan.
Not fixating on Mayo it's just the way it was

corny · 04-09-2018 11:01pm

Clifford was brilliant but it would be a travesty if Howard doesn't win yound footballer. He wouldn't be far off the senior award imo.

Also, all 3 nominees for POTY should be from Dublin. Fenton should get it. Amazed he wasn't nominated for MOTM in the final. His work rate was phenomenal, kicked two brilliant scores, won primary possession numerous times and was the crucial out ball in the dying minutes. Complete performance.

I won't be amazed when Colm Cavangh wins it though. It'll be in keeping with the recent history of the award.

DoctaDee · 05-09-2018 7:44am

corny wrote: »

Clifford was brilliant but it would be a travesty if Howard doesn't win yound footballer. He wouldn't be far off the senior award imo.

Also, all 3 nominees for POTY should be from Dublin. Fenton should get it. Amazed he wasn't nominated for MOTM in the final. His work rate was phenomenal, kicked two brilliant scores, won primary possession numerous times and was the crucial out ball in the dying minutes. Complete performance.

I won't be amazed when Colm Cavangh wins it though. It'll be in keeping with the recent history of the award.

Yeah prety much sums it up for me also - I don't know whether Fenton's level of performance goes somewhat unnoticed as there's a certain expectancy of his contribution on any particular day, but he was brilliant on Sunday and I'd give an honourable mention to cooper too

I feel that Burke not Walshe should represent Galway in the forward line, Cavanaghs position is a charity case better served by Murphy or one of the Monaghan lads probably Kearns who I thought was excellent in his 1st year of inter county

robbiezero · 05-09-2018 8:06am

If Colm Cavanagh wins footballer of the year, they may abandon the award in the future. I don't think he would even be in my top 10.

Crash Bang Wall · 06-09-2018 2:56pm

castletownman wrote: »

Can't see beyond the Sunday Game TOTY so:

Cluxton Beggan

Cooper Hampsey
Hampsey Wylie
SB Gallagher

O'Connell Howard
McCarthy
McCaffrey

Fenton
Cavanagh Murphy

Walsh
KK Ciaran Kilkenny
Howard Mannion

McAliskey
McManus
Clifford

Beggan the unluckiest to miss out. Drew Wylie may well get in ahead of Gallagher though. I would have Michael Murphy at centre-forward, with Kilkenny pushed inside instead of one of the corner-forwards, but I suppose Mannion nailed it on with his semi-final and final displays, and Clifford has the media-drive behind him.

FOTY: Ciaran Kilkenny
YFOTY: David Clifford

Howard

I cant have Cooper as an All Star....or Cavanagh

And the Oscar goes too....2018 All Stars & Footballer of the Year.

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