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And the Oscar goes too....2018 All Stars & Footballer of the Year.

  • 26-07-2018 10:19am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭


    Seriously bored at work, soooooo...


    Footballer of the Year: Dammed if I know
    Young Footballer of the Year: David Clifford

    All Stars

    1. Rory Beggan (stand out candidate so far, but a doubt if Monaghan don't make it to the AI semi finals stage at least imo)
    2. Johnny Cooper
    3.
    4.
    5.
    6.
    7.
    8. Brian Fenton
    9.
    10.
    11.
    12.
    13. Damien Comer
    14. Michael Murphy
    15. Conor McManus


    Ok boys and girls, fill in the blanks. Remember under the new format, you don't need to nominate someone in their particular postion, just in their general line.

    Am passing the hurling baton over to more knowledgeable folk than me.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    I expect Galway to get to the final and in that case I can see Comer, Shane Walsh and Tom Flynn being the main contenders, with Eoghan Kerin also a great shout, and Cathal Sweeney and Sean Kelly more outside bets

    I don't think anyone from Kerry will get one unless they make the semi and if they lose a semi it'll probably only be one

    Other losing semi finalist will probably have one too. Donegal may get one if they don't make semi as a provincial winner

    I expect Dublin to win the AI and hoover up a few, but they'll be mainly based on their semi and final. Even Mannion, KK and COC who haven't really set the world alight so far could get ones yet - its all recency effect

    I think Shane Walsh is a decent bet for FOTY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,392 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    jr86 wrote: »
    I expect Galway to get to the final and in that case I can see Comer, Shane Walsh and Tom Flynn being the main contenders, with Eoghan Kerin also a great shout, and Cathal Sweeney and Sean Kelly more outside bets

    I don't think anyone from Kerry will get one unless they make the semi and if they lose a semi it'll probably only be one


    Other losing semi finalist will probably have one too. Donegal may get one if they don't make semi as a provincial winner

    I expect Dublin to win the AI and hoover up a few, but they'll be mainly based on their semi and final. Even Mannion, KK and COC who haven't really set the world alight so far could get ones yet - its all recency effect

    I think Shane Walsh is a decent bet for FOTY

    David Clifford gets one regardless of Kerry's finishing position.

    Even if they get to the SF I can't think of another Kerry player getting one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,372 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    I thought Clifford would be nailed on for Young Player of the year but if Kerry don't make the semis and Bryan Howard has a couple more games in the semis and final like the last two he just had he may even nick that award.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Comer in but no Ian Burke?

    burke been galways best player this year - Comer has been poor or average at best in most games apart from last sunday.

    monaghan #7 is a shoe in so far also, i cant remember his name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Completely forgot Ian Burke myself actually. He'll surely get one

    With himself Mcmanus and Comer competing in the FF line and probably a Dublin player or two if they win the AI, I don't see Clifford getting one if Kerry go out in the super 8s.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Always number 1


    From a Dublin POV based on season so far - Cooper, Howard, Fenton and maybe McCarthy.
    Murchan could be an outside bet if Dublin make the final and he continues the form he has shown the past 2 games.
    Few suggestions below:

    1) Beggan (Mon) or Lavelle (Gal)
    2) Kyne (Gal)
    3) Cooper (Dub)
    4) Kelly (Kil)
    5) Howard (Dub) (sadly won't get young player of the year because they've been dying to give it to Clifford since he was first year minor but if Dublin get to the final he might be an outside chance of POTY)
    6) McCarthy (Dub)
    7) Harte (Tyr)
    8) Fenton (Dub)
    9) Murphy (Don)
    10) Burke (Gal)
    11) N Flynn (Kil)
    12) Sludden (Tyr)
    13) Clifford (Ky)
    14) Walsh (Gal)
    15) McManus (Mon)

    Honourable mentions Kilkenny (Dub) McAliskey (Tyr) O'Shea (Ky) Feely (Kil) Wylie (Mon) McCaffrey (Dub) Flynn (Kil) Murtagh (Ros)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    jr86 wrote: »
    Completely forgot Ian Burke myself actually. He'll surely get one

    With himself Mcmanus and Comer competing in the FF line and probably a Dublin player or two if they win the AI, I don't see Clifford getting one if Kerry go out in the super 8s.

    several players have gotten awards ourside of the positons they have played in.

    comer as it stands, will not get an all star. theres 2 if not 3 galway forwards ahead of him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    In fairness Comer absolutely cut loose v Sligo (I was at it in Salthill) and ran Mayo ragged early on before they went very defensive after DOC's red card. He might have been quiet by his standards against Roscommon and Kerry but he was superb again the last day and he will be their main focal point in all their remaining matches.

    He's their captain, and main big name along with Shane Walsh, if they make a final (which I think they will) he's a near certainty really


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Clifford will be an all star

    The media are already in love


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    If Galway knock Monaghan out and mc manus is average does he get one?

    IMO the stand out Monaghan player has been karl o Connell


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    As is the norm lately, the consolation prize of POTY will go to one of the losing finalists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,492 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Niall Kearns has enjoyed a fine debut championship at midfield for Monaghan too, but I can see Murphy been allocated there to accommodate a couple more forwards.

    Beggan

    Kyne
    Cooper
    EB Gallagher (outstanding all year, but injury might see him miss out now)

    Howard
    McCarthy
    O'Connell

    Fenton
    Murphy

    Sludden
    Walsh
    Kilkenny

    Clifford
    Comer
    McManus

    Seems the most fairly distributed, as things stand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Ciaran Kilkenny will probably get one too


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    David Clarke for GK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    From a Dublin POV based on season so far - Cooper, Howard, Fenton and maybe McCarthy.
    Murchan could be an outside bet if Dublin make the final and he continues the form he has shown the past 2 games.
    Few suggestions below:

    1) Beggan (Mon) or Lavelle (Gal)
    2) Kyne (Gal)
    3) Cooper (Dub)
    4) Kelly (Kil)
    5) Howard (Dub) (sadly won't get young player of the year because they've been dying to give it to Clifford since he was first year minor but if Dublin get to the final he might be an outside chance of POTY)
    6) McCarthy (Dub)
    7) Harte (Tyr)
    8) Fenton (Dub)
    9) Murphy (Don)
    10) Burke (Gal)
    11) N Flynn (Kil)
    12) Sludden (Tyr)
    13) Clifford (Ky)
    14) Walsh (Gal)
    15) McManus (Mon)

    Honourable mentions Kilkenny (Dub) McAliskey (Tyr) O'Shea (Ky) Feely (Kil) Wylie (Mon) McCaffrey (Dub) Flynn (Kil) Murtagh (Ros)


    Just wondering; how could Howrd get player of the year, if he doesn't win young player of the year. If they are saying that Clifford has had a better year then him in one category, then how can they say the Howard is better than Clifford in a different category, but based on same criteria.
    Watching Howard play in the past 2 games has been a joy. What a fetcher of the ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Sean Kelly for YPOTY? Quietly excellent all year; also on the NUIG team that reached Sigerson final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Aidan O'Shea nailed on, again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    MfMan wrote:
    Sean Kelly for YPOTY? Quietly excellent all year; also on the NUIG team that reached Sigerson final.


    It's only the championship I think


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭shrewdness


    I can see Clifford getting the YPOTY but not an all star, if the competition in the FF line is particularly tough. They tend to spread the awards out like that at times. That's unless he's unreal in his next 1/2 games and puts it beyond doubt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,304 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    C__MC wrote: »
    David Clarke for GK


    Have to agree. Tom Parsons and Seamie O'Shea deserve one each too, as their injuries robbed Mayo of this year's All-Ireland. The normal awards for Lee Keegan (who would have ensured they beat Galway and the whole summer different) and the two O'Connor brothers to round out Mayo's six All-Stars.

    Oops, I forgot Andy Moran. Make it seven, they all deserve it.

    Post made in jest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,372 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Lavelle has been pretty good this year but hard to justify giving any keeper it other than Beggan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Niall Kearns has enjoyed a fine debut championship at midfield for Monaghan too, but I can see Murphy been allocated there to accommodate a couple more forwards.

    Beggan

    Kyne
    Cooper
    EB Gallagher (outstanding all year, but injury might see him miss out now)

    Howard
    McCarthy
    O'Connell

    Fenton
    Murphy

    Sludden
    Walsh
    Kilkenny

    Clifford
    Comer
    McManus

    Seems the most fairly distributed, as things stand

    Seems a fair enough mix. Couple of expections...Kerin way before Kyne, best Galway defender by a distance. Don't think EBG can get one really now despite the excellent year, so maybe whoever puts his hand up from now on in that position. Half back line is very solid. Kilkenny doesn't deserve one yet but will likely be a key figure going forward. Similar for Comer who'll probably be fighting with Burke for one spot. Beggan Fenton and Murphy look the certs at this stage. Howard surely very close also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    Its quite hilarious to see the Dub's obsession with Mayo and all things Mayo, its a back handed compliment if anything I guess. You would have thought that the obsession would be the other way around?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Pogue eile wrote: »
    Its quite hilarious to see the Dub's obsession with Mayo and all things Mayo, its a back handed compliment if anything I guess. You would have thought that the obsession would be the other way around?

    The are gone delirious, now that their path to a 4th all-Ireland will be unchallenged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭equivariant


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Seriously bored at work, soooooo...


    Footballer of the Year: Dammed if I know
    Young Footballer of the Year: David Clifford

    All Stars

    1. Rory Beggan (stand out candidate so far, but a doubt if Monaghan don't make it to the AI semi finals stage at least imo)
    2. Johnny Cooper
    3.
    4.
    5.
    6.
    7.
    8. Brian Fenton
    9.
    10.
    11.
    12.
    13. Damien Comer
    14. Michael Murphy
    15. Conor McManus


    Ok boys and girls, fill in the blanks. Remember under the new format, you don't need to nominate someone in their particular postion, just in their general line.

    Am passing the hurling baton over to more knowledgeable folk than me.

    Don't see why Comer is there? OTOH if he does get an all-star Galway might go close to Dublin cos he would want to be MOTM in the semi and final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Pogue eile wrote: »
    Its quite hilarious to see the Dub's obsession with Mayo and all things Mayo, its a back handed compliment if anything I guess. You would have thought that the obsession would be the other way around?

    Ah jest can't quit yew. (Geddit? ;) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,539 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Seriously bored at work, soooooo...


    Footballer of the Year: Dammed if I know
    Young Footballer of the Year: David Clifford

    All Stars

    1. Rory Beggan (stand out candidate so far, but a doubt if Monaghan don't make it to the AI semi finals stage at least imo)
    2. Johnny Cooper
    3.
    4.
    5.
    6.
    7.
    8. Brian Fenton
    9.
    10.
    11.
    12.
    13. Damien Comer
    14. Michael Murphy
    15. Conor McManus


    Ok boys and girls, fill in the blanks. Remember under the new format, you don't need to nominate someone in their particular postion, just in their general line.

    Am passing the hurling baton over to more knowledgeable folk than me.

    Kal O’Connell at no 7? He’s been excellent all year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I wonder will the Super 8s structure mean a wider spread of counties getting football All-Stars.
    In the past, if you didn't at least make a semi-final, you've probably not played enough games. But now a team knocked out on the Super 8s has still played a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    I wonder will the Super 8s structure mean a wider spread of counties getting football All-Stars.
    In the past, if you didn't at least make a semi-final, you've probably not played enough games. But now a team knocked out on the Super 8s has still played a lot.


    Good point. Rory Beggan could definitely benefit from this. If Kerry pip Monaghan this weekend, he would still be nailed on as favourite if he has decent game on Saturday, unless one of the other keepers does something exceptional in the next month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    I wonder will the Super 8s structure mean a wider spread of counties getting football All-Stars.
    In the past, if you didn't at least make a semi-final, you've probably not played enough games. But now a team knocked out on the Super 8s has still played a lot.

    With the quaterfinals now being three games and not one, they will only have played two extra games. It's a decent increase over previous years, but it's not a massive amount. You do make a good point though. However, it works both ways . If any bolters have more games to come from the pack and make a case for an All Star, the leading candidates from the teams that make the AI final, also have more games to copper fasten their own worthiness of an All Star.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    May as well give this a bump then so....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,492 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Can't see beyond the Sunday Game TOTY so:

    Cluxton

    Cooper
    Hampsey
    SB Gallagher

    O'Connell
    McCarthy
    McCaffrey

    Fenton
    Cavanagh

    Walsh
    KK
    Howard

    Mannion
    McManus
    Clifford

    Beggan the unluckiest to miss out. Drew Wylie may well get in ahead of Gallagher though. I would have Michael Murphy at centre-forward, with Kilkenny pushed inside instead of one of the corner-forwards, but I suppose Mannion nailed it on with his semi-final and final displays, and Clifford has the media-drive behind him.

    FOTY: Ciaran Kilkenny
    YFOTY: David Clifford


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Kilkenny player of the year.

    Howard young player of the year. (close with Clifford though)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Always number 1


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Kilkenny player of the year.

    Howard young player of the year. (close with Clifford though)

    The problem with the Player of the Year is you could in theory have McCaffrey, Kilkenny and possibly Colm Cavanagh nominated. The 2 Dubs split the vote so Cavanagh gets it. Happened last year with Andy Moran and the year before with Lee Keegan.
    Not fixating on Mayo it's just the way it was


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Clifford was brilliant but it would be a travesty if Howard doesn't win yound footballer. He wouldn't be far off the senior award imo.

    Also, all 3 nominees for POTY should be from Dublin. Fenton should get it. Amazed he wasn't nominated for MOTM in the final. His work rate was phenomenal, kicked two brilliant scores, won primary possession numerous times and was the crucial out ball in the dying minutes. Complete performance.

    I won't be amazed when Colm Cavangh wins it though. It'll be in keeping with the recent history of the award.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    corny wrote: »
    Clifford was brilliant but it would be a travesty if Howard doesn't win yound footballer. He wouldn't be far off the senior award imo.

    Also, all 3 nominees for POTY should be from Dublin. Fenton should get it. Amazed he wasn't nominated for MOTM in the final. His work rate was phenomenal, kicked two brilliant scores, won primary possession numerous times and was the crucial out ball in the dying minutes. Complete performance.

    I won't be amazed when Colm Cavangh wins it though. It'll be in keeping with the recent history of the award.

    Yeah prety much sums it up for me also - I don't know whether Fenton's level of performance goes somewhat unnoticed as there's a certain expectancy of his contribution on any particular day, but he was brilliant on Sunday and I'd give an honourable mention to cooper too

    I feel that Burke not Walshe should represent Galway in the forward line, Cavanaghs position is a charity case better served by Murphy or one of the Monaghan lads probably Kearns who I thought was excellent in his 1st year of inter county


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    If Colm Cavanagh wins footballer of the year, they may abandon the award in the future. I don't think he would even be in my top 10.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Crash Bang Wall


    Can't see beyond the Sunday Game TOTY so:

    Cluxton Beggan

    Cooper Hampsey
    Hampsey Wylie
    SB Gallagher

    O'Connell Howard
    McCarthy
    McCaffrey

    Fenton
    Cavanagh Murphy

    Walsh
    KK Ciaran Kilkenny
    Howard Mannion

    McAliskey
    McManus
    Clifford

    Beggan the unluckiest to miss out. Drew Wylie may well get in ahead of Gallagher though. I would have Michael Murphy at centre-forward, with Kilkenny pushed inside instead of one of the corner-forwards, but I suppose Mannion nailed it on with his semi-final and final displays, and Clifford has the media-drive behind him.

    FOTY: Ciaran Kilkenny
    YFOTY: David Clifford
    Howard

    I cant have Cooper as an All Star....or Cavanagh


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