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Accepting a low salary to start your career

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  • #182
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    swampgas wrote: »
    I don't know the details, but as soon as your new employer issues your first paycheck, and assuming you don't start working at the start of the tax year, there will be a "total pay to date this year" figure which will tell them what you were earning.

    I could be wrong here about the mechanism, but I'm pretty confident that you can't easily hide your previous salary from a new employer.
    When you start a new job you can call revenue with your employers company number and go from there.

    I never gave my p45 to my current employer.


  • #183
    bpmurray
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭bpmurray


    Calculon1982 wrote: »
    Fair enough. I'd been under the impression that the civil service was a good employer. Perhaps its time to look elsewhere.
    The civil service is a good employer, but it offers things other people don't get. For example your pension plan wipes the floor with what's offered generally, and your working hours are something people in the industry can only dream about - when was the last time you worked 60 hours in a week? The other side of that coin is you're paid crap compared to the rest of the industry.


  • #184
    bpmurray
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭bpmurray


    Raging_Ninja wrote: »
    Just say you're not comfortable discussing your pay with strangers. Any figure you give will just be used to lowball you. When it comes to expected salary, I say market rate.

    Any figure they give you, look a bit disappointed and say something noncommittal. That alone can be worth a couple of grand.

    Worked out pretty well for me this time around.

    ANy reputable company will have a payscale for a particular role. If you're currently way under that, that's no reason for them to change that - they'll pay what they expect to pay. If they decide to undermine their own policy, just don't work there. I did my masters with someone who was grossly underpaid, and sent his CV to someone who was hiring where I worked, with a recommendation that he hire him. He actually had a crap CV which was overlooked on my recommendation, and he was hired, almost doubling what he was earning. It was a win-win for both - he got a much better job and the company got a great developer.


  • #185
    nomdeboardie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    bpmurray wrote: »
    ANy reputable company will have a payscale for a particular role. If you're currently way under that, that's no reason for them to change that - they'll pay what they expect to pay. If they decide to undermine their own policy, just don't work there. I did my masters with someone who was grossly underpaid, and sent his CV to someone who was hiring where I worked, with a recommendation that he hire him. He actually had a crap CV which was overlooked on my recommendation, and he was hired, almost doubling what he was earning. It was a win-win for both - he got a much better job and the company got a great developer.
    Why would they ask, then, I wonder. And some, often large, companies have a mandatry 'previous salary' field on their (mandatory, inflexible) online application forms, even before you get to interview


  • #186
    Raging_Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    nomdeboardie wrote: »
    Why would they ask, then, I wonder. And some, often large, companies have a mandatry 'previous salary' field on their (mandatory, inflexible) online application forms, even before you get to interview

    Mark it as €1 or something. Just because it's mandatory doesn't mean you need to tell them. This question exists purely to undermine your negotiating position.

    HR, no matter how friendly they are, have two primary goals: to protect the company and management from the employees; and to get the employees to do their jobs for the minimum possible monetary cost.


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  • #187
    nomdeboardie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    Raging_Ninja wrote: »
    Mark it as €1 or something. Just because it's mandatory doesn't mean you need to tell them. This question exists purely to undermine your negotiating position.

    HR, no matter how friendly they are, have two primary goals: to protect the company and management from the employees; and to get the employees to do their jobs for the minimum possible monetary cost.
    That may be a viable strategy, but hard to know...might the application system be set to reject submissions with 'improbable' values for that field, and even if not, could they get you for 'false information' if they wanted an excuse to get rid of you after hiring, or somesuch? :pac:


  • #188
    jcorr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭jcorr


    What's the typical salary for a Dev in Dublin (and other cities) these days with 4 years experience.


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