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Reggie. · 06-06-2018 01:00PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Give me a chance...:D

Come on piss or get off the pot

patsy_mccabe · 06-06-2018 01:03PM

At the recent Baileys, ballinrahin, grangeford Limousin dispersal sale.

Second Pic - €16,800.
Baileys Minnie - Lot 37

Other top prices were;
Lot 10 - Baileys Laura, €14,400
Lot 1 - Grangeford Kacie, €6,100

patsy_mccabe · 14-06-2018 01:47PM

Had the one cow in Ennis today. Red Lim, FR cross and hand reared. She needed more feeding. 610Kgs €1230.
Thought it a good trade overall.
Saw one BB cow, very muscley 760Kgs - €1670, followed straight after by a poor FR cow. She mde €350. Then a Char big frame cow. 655Kgs €1290. She needed more feeding.

2 year old bullocks making around the €1400 to €1500 for good cont types.

wiggy123 · 14-06-2018 03:55PM

what price cows in factory at mo--had a pb 9 yr old angus go this morning... was in great condition...say easily 650+kg

grassroot1 · 14-06-2018 09:35PM

wiggy123 wrote:

what price cows in factory at mo--had a pb 9 yr old angus go this morning... was in great condition...say easily 650+kg

Sweet Jesus did you send her without a price?

Bass Reeves · 14-06-2018 09:51PM

wiggy123 wrote: »

what price cows in factory at mo--had a pb 9 yr old angus go this morning... was in great condition...say easily 650+kg

If you did not request a price you are at the mercy of the procurement manager/agent. He could give you P price for an R grade cow.

Muckit · 15-06-2018 10:28AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Had the one cow in Ennis today. Red Lim, FR cross and hand reared. She needed more feeding. 610Kgs €1230.
Thought it a good trade overall

You did well with your cow considering she probably an -R at best. Not saying u, but can't understand the lad letting off that ch cow at that money that he could easily fatten himself this time of year. Worried about mastitis?? Some lads don't know what they have or their value.

Is it just me or are bullocks a better trade than heifers in marts this year for some reason?

Muckit · 15-06-2018 10:31AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If you did not request a price you are at the mercy of the procurement manager/agent. He could give you P price for an R grade cow.

Ah hardly ever. Sounds a great cow. Sometimes a good mart might have been the spot for the likes of her. Certain factories giving the premium for PB stock and fact she AA.

wiggy123 · 15-06-2018 10:39AM

hear ya--had planned to head to mart with her-never got the time!

patsy_mccabe · 15-06-2018 11:11AM

Muckit wrote: »

You did well with your cow considering she probably an -R at best. Not saying u, but can't understand the lad letting off that ch cow at that money that he could easily fatten himself this time of year. Worried about mastitis?? Some lads don't know what they have or their value.

Is it just me or are bullocks a better trade than heifers in marts this year for some reason?

I'd say a calf came straight off her. Anyone fattening cows at this time of year knows full well that prices are only going one way from now on. You need to have them fat by now. Maybe the guy was like myself and had only the one to get rid off.
Mine was borderline R at best.

Bass Reeves · 15-06-2018 11:18AM

Muckit wrote: »

You did well with your cow considering she probably an -R at best. Not saying u, but can't understand the lad letting off that ch cow at that money that he could easily fatten himself this time of year. Worried about mastitis?? Some lads don't know what they have or their value.

Is it just me or are bullocks a better trade than heifers in marts this year for some reason?

Muckit wrote: »

Ah hardly ever. Sounds a great cow. Sometimes a good mart might have been the spot for the likes of her. Certain factories giving the premium for PB stock and fact she AA.

Difference in price of cows is massive at present. 30-40c/cow between best and worst factory averages. The price checker on agriland is a brillant tool. You can check any grade or fat score of animal and with any factory. When you consider the price difference and add in the fact taht not all animals are bought at the same price if you send in a cow or any animal without a quoted price you will only get the minimum quote on the day which could be 10c/kg below the average of that grade.

On bullocks and beef at present there are some really facncy prices being paid by some factory for plain stock at present especially from O= to P+ grade cattle. Jennings in Ballinrobe averaged 4.21 for P grade steers, 4.27 for O- and 4.3 for O= steers the week ending the 8/6. Considering that the steer base is supposed to be 4.15/4.2 taht is some price. Now while they buy alot of AA and Hex cattle not all acttle are those breeds and it is unlikly that P grade cattle are coloured breeds. A lot of these cattle may have been procured in marts around the west and may be really only very forward stores.

cute geoge · 15-06-2018 11:36AM

I have heard the grades and the k/o can be quiet poor from in ballinrobe so far away fields might be greener

charolais0153 · 15-06-2018 11:44AM

cute geoge wrote: »

I have heard the grades and the k/o can be quiet poor from in ballinrobe so far away fields might be greener

Only ever black and white cattle in that factory.

Bass Reeves · 15-06-2018 12:07PM

cute geoge wrote: »

I have heard the grades and the k/o can be quiet poor from in ballinrobe so far away fields might be greener

This is often a story spun by agenst against any factory/processor that they are pricing against. One big issue with travelling for a price is what time cattle are loaded and killed. Friend had over 36 months cattle loaded one evening at 5pm they were still not gone for slaughters at 2pm the following day. He was not impressed with the weights. But yes I have seen bad killouts and grades. But at present the factory near me is the biggest issue

charolais0153 wrote: »

Only ever black and white cattle in that factory.

If it is then they are paying very good prices for them I know taht they specialized in killing sub 300kg cattle and had presemed taht a lot were AA type cattle. It was the P price taht suprised me as I knew no matter how nad AA are it is very seldom that they fall into that grade.

bogman_bass · 18-07-2018 03:40PM

What’s the market like for bullocks 600kg+

sonnybill · 18-07-2018 10:29PM

Bought this white Charolais lad last week 362kg E870 sept 2017

Danzy · 18-07-2018 10:42PM

sonnybill wrote: »

Bought this white Charolais lad last week 362kg E870 sept 2017

I'd say the smile on the face was wide as he ran out in to the field. Looks like a great animal.

sonnybill · 18-07-2018 11:28PM

Danzy wrote: »

I'd say the smile on the face was wide as he ran out in to the field. Looks like a great animal.

I thought he was good value, if I had bred him and had wintered him with the cow I’d like to be getting bit more for him alright

Bass Reeves · 19-07-2018 10:50AM

sonnybill wrote: »

I thought he was good value, if I had bred him and had wintered him with the cow I’d like to be getting bit more for him alright

He is a good animal but I am not sure about value. It is hard to know what market you target him at he have cost 890-900 in the yard. He is Sept '17 and 362 kgs.

Maybe a tad light to kill U16 months in January. If you fed him 3kg from now to mid September he be 435 at housing. Costs 1.1/day. 120 days to slaughter feeding an average of 10 kgs/day would be 1.2 ton + silage straw dosing etc. If he killed 360 at aprice of 4.36 (base of 4.1) leaves a price of 1569. So 680 to take you costs out. 66 from now to mid September, 420 in finishing feed costs, dosing, vet, misc costs 50 euro, slaughter fees and transport 26 euro leaves a margin of 118 euro.

Killing him as a bull next June. Graze to mid November on 1kg ration costing 75c/day, costs 90 euro, weight at housing 480 kgs. 3kgs and silage until march 1st 150 euro. 100 days finishing period 400 euro. Misc 60 euro, slaughter and transport 26. He would kill 420 kgs at 4.2 so 1764 euro. 1600 euro in costs leaves 160 of a margin.

The other option is to slaughter him as a bullock from October - Christmas next year. Killing him at 400-440kgs netting 1600-1800 euro. Do tou allow thsi years costs into the equasion if you are replacing a bullock dure for slaughter in that time period this year. Such a bullock being slaughter thsi yaer wsill more than likly be in the 1450-1600 euro bracket

sonnybill · 20-07-2018 10:22PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

He is a good animal but I am not sure about value. It is hard to know what market you target him at he have cost 890-900 in the yard. He is Sept '17 and 362 kgs.

Maybe a tad light to kill U16 months in January. If you fed him 3kg from now to mid September he be 435 at housing. Costs 1.1/day. 120 days to slaughter feeding an average of 10 kgs/day would be 1.2 ton + silage straw dosing etc. If he killed 360 at aprice of 4.36 (base of 4.1) leaves a price of 1569. So 680 to take you costs out. 66 from now to mid September, 420 in finishing feed costs, dosing, vet, misc costs 50 euro, slaughter fees and transport 26 euro leaves a margin of 118 euro.

Killing him as a bull next June. Graze to mid November on 1kg ration costing 75c/day, costs 90 euro, weight at housing 480 kgs. 3kgs and silage until march 1st 150 euro. 100 days finishing period 400 euro. Misc 60 euro, slaughter and transport 26. He would kill 420 kgs at 4.2 so 1764 euro. 1600 euro in costs leaves 160 of a margin.

The other option is to slaughter him as a bullock from October - Christmas next year. Killing him at 400-440kgs netting 1600-1800 euro. Do tou allow thsi years costs into the equasion if you are replacing a bullock dure for slaughter in that time period this year. Such a bullock being slaughter thsi yaer wsill more than likly be in the 1450-1600 euro bracket

Cheers bass, only a teaser for running with a few cows, he cost E879 here and I’ll squeeze and will be gone to man that buys them sort as a store in 2-3 months

Danzy · 22-07-2018 11:24AM

About ten heifers sold in Midd Tipp Mart last week, no idea what clearance that is, but presume it was mostly because they were not brought to it.

About 90 Bullocks and presumably the same, out of that there were only 2 Friesians.

There must be a backlog building in this hard.

Butcher Boy · 22-07-2018 11:42AM

in macroom yesterday a bad trade fr 400 kgs making 450 good hf and aa blks around 400kgs 650,and lads were selling,

TooOldBoots · 22-07-2018 11:52AM

Butcher Boy wrote: »

in macroom yesterday a bad trade fr 400 kgs making 450 good hf and aa blks around 400kgs 650,and lads were selling,

And 10 day old hex and AA calves were making up to €350 a few weeks ago.

Reggie. · 22-07-2018 12:03PM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

And 10 day old hex and AA calves were making up to €350 a few weeks ago.

Madness ain't it

whelan2 · 22-07-2018 12:06PM

It's a good while since 10 day old Angus calves made €350

TooOldBoots · 22-07-2018 12:11PM

whelan2 wrote: »

It's a good while since 10 day old Angus calves made €350

Yeah the end of April is so long ago

https://www.farmersforum.ie/reports/Ennis-Weanling-mart-report/2018_04_24-2270/

charolais0153 · 22-07-2018 12:13PM

A lot of nice chx weanlings only making 4-500 with the weight.... Great calves made 600 with the weight.
No farmers of note buying

whelan2 · 22-07-2018 12:17PM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Yeah the end of April is so long ago

https://www.farmersforum.ie/reports/Ennis-Weanling-mart-report/2018_04_24-2270/

Doubtful they were 10 days old though

TooOldBoots · 22-07-2018 12:22PM

They would have to be less than 3 weeks old or else they'd have to be tb tested. But who knows, maybe they were.
I have seen hex make over €300 easily all spring and a good AA calf made as much.
The same thing happened last year too, hence the glut of Fr, Hex and AA cattle available now at not much along with a euro a kg

Who2 · 22-07-2018 12:22PM

I’m going to clear out a good few autumn calvers here most are calves between a month to two weeks. I don’t like splitting out fits but I was considering selling calves and finishing the cows straight away. Am I daft or should I just sell together all would be good continental calves on a mix of cows. Any opinions?

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