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How would an attack on Dublin from Islamists change us?

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sometimes you'd nearly think there are people out there who actually want it to happen, the way they obsess over it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Sometimes you'd nearly think there are people out there who actually want it to happen, the way they obsess over it
    ...Think?

    ...THINK!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Sometimes you'd nearly think there are people out there who actually want it to happen, the way they obsess over it




    It was always a thing with a lot of the far right that "race war" was something they deeply desired. These days many have supplanted race with religion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Leo's 2040 plan would mean the population will grown by a million through mass immigration which lets face it will be mostly from the third world. Migrants won't be living in Ballsbridge, Castleknock, Blackrock or Foxrock they'll be living in places like Tyrellstown, Blabriggan and Citywest. These areas will become jihadi breeding grounds aswell as being no go zones for whites. They'll Dublin's answer to Molenbeek.


    And another thing - the plan is in response to predictions that the population will grow by a million, not to grow the population by that level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭enricoh


    This was not a terrorist attack. So what has him being Saudi got to do with anything? If it were a woman would you be giving out about the feminist menace?

    Neither was the guy who stabbed the people in Dundalk. The cops stated that the next day. Months later they still had no idea of his identity or country of origin, but fair play they cleared that up on day one !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Odhinn wrote: »
    And another thing - the plan is in response to predictions that the population will grow by a million, not to grow the population by that level.

    "Earlier this year, the Minister for Justice, Charlie Flanagan confirmed that the budget for direct provision accommodation will increase to €66 million this year.

    This coincided with a 62% increase in people seeking asylum seeker in the first quarter compared to the corresponding period in 2017."

    62% increase on last year, every little helps ! God bless paddy the taxpayer, he is there to be milked dry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven
    MEGA - Make Éire Great Again


    Odhinn wrote: »
    It was always a thing with a lot of the far right that "race war" was something they deeply desired. These days many have supplanted race with religion.


    That doesn't make any sense, Nodin. If the far right wanted a race war, then why do they want to prevent them from coming in their countries by building walls, erecting barbwire fences and voting for nationalist parties?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭All My Stars Aligned


    #táméáthacliath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭ConnyMcDavid


    Sometimes you'd nearly think there are people out there who actually want it to happen, the way they obsess over it

    It's OK for you to presume there are people who want a terrorist attack to happen but the OP is wrong to think that someone might want to carry out such an attack?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    victor8600 wrote: »
    I think it would be unlikely for a terrorist organization to send their top operatives to Ireland. So what will probably happen is that they will send their equivalent of Hermann Görtz (read the story -- very funny!), a Nazi spy sent to Ireland in 1940.

    Seems not much has changed in Ireland in 78 years. Didn’t the murdering scum bag in Dundalk get stopped by the police for being here illegally and told to go to Dublin go apply for asylum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,042 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Big leap there.

    Not really. Since 2000 Ireland has extra 1 million. That's 18 years.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Not really. Since 2000 Ireland has extra 1 million. That's 18 years.


    I meant that its a big leap to say they'd be from the third world, as opposed to natural increase and free movement within Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,042 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Odhinn wrote: »
    I meant that its a big leap to say they'd be from the third world, as opposed to natural increase and free movement within Europe.

    Not really and most likely will be the case. Especially with the population exploding as it is. A big % will be from these places

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    That doesn't make any sense, Nodin. If the far right wanted a race war, then why do they want to prevent them from coming in their countries by building walls, erecting barbwire fences and voting for nationalist parties?


    Expecting the far right to make sense?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turner_Diaries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Not really and most likely will be the case. Especially with the population exploding as it is. A big % will be from these places


    Why? They don't have free movement into the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Not really and most likely will be the case. Especially with the population exploding as it is. A big % will be from these places

    Based on what study? Data source? Mystic meg?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,905 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Based on what study? Data source? Mystic meg?

    Muslims have the highest fertility rate. They are outbreeding us all.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    It would change some people on here, in that they'd be going around with permanent hard-ons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Why would it have to be dublin?
    Its not always the capital these muppets choose.

    As for changes - maybe we'd wake up and realise that these 'people' truly hate the west.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Was that when they build and ran the Magdalene laundry's and the state tried to cover up the abuses, deaths and everything else?

    Ah the Magdalene laundries.

    The WD40 of Irish forums.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,042 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Why? They don't have free movement into the country.

    Does not seem be stopping them coming into the country though. In some towns they are the majority already

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Why would it have to be dublin?...maybe we'd wake up and realise that these 'people' truly hate the west.

    The west? Are them terrorists going to blow up Cliffs of Moher? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    Mutant z wrote: »
    That the left are totally deluded about Ireland not being a target for islamic terrorism.

    Seriously, the left? For a supposed minor league set of parties with no chance of getting in government, they sure steer the country :rolleyes:
    Why are those who defend Islam and mass 3rd world immigration
    usually on the left you can't deny there's a connection to between the both of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Does not seem be stopping them coming into the country though. In some towns they are the majority already




    What towns would these be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Odhinn wrote: »
    What towns would these be?

    Imaginationville in the land of make believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,042 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Odhinn wrote: »
    What towns would these be?

    Ballyhaunis and Tyrellstown.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,366 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Ballyhaunis and Tyrellstown.


    well ballyhaunis does have a large immigrant population. Something that the locals dont have a problem with as they can now field GAA teams. What is your source for saying that Tyrrelstown is majority immigrant?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Not really and most likely will be the case. Especially with the population exploding as it is. A big % will be from these places
    We're adding a little over 30,000 a year in terms of birth rate, so that is 30% of the estimated 1mn increase being Irish born citizens at a low estimate (five or so years ago it was 50,000).

    This would mean that of the remaining 700k or so, over 500k (over 70%) would need to be from third world countries, with less than 30% coming from the rest of the world combined.

    This would be hard to achieve and would require a big change in the type of migrant coming here as currently about 250,000 are from Eastern europe, a trend that only really gathered steam in the last 15 years to become our largest group.

    The other group competing for 'largest' are Western European countries where we have over 100k Brits, and 10,000-12,000 for each of the likes of France, Germany, Italy and Spain before getting into the smaller countries. By comparison our largest African population from one country is Nigeria on about 14,000.

    From 2011-2016 Nigerians living in Ireland fell by just shy of 20%, roughly double the next biggest drop (Brits). African or non-Chinese Asians are likely to grow the most as a percentage (as smaller numbered groups typically will - bring over just 500 Samoans in the next 20 years and their increase would likely dwarf any other group as there are basically none here right now) , but do not show any signs of accounting for anywhere even in the ballpark of over half of any 20yr, 1mn population increase in terms. of bulk numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Muslims have the highest fertility rate. They are outbreeding us all.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth

    Been a while since I heard the outbreeding argument.

    http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/weltparasit.htm


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    That doesn't make any sense, Nodin. If the far right wanted a race war, then why do they want to prevent them from coming in their countries by building walls, erecting barbwire fences and voting for nationalist parties?
    In that case you can rest easy, as someone born in Ireland does not, as can not, immigrate to Ireland from a third world country which is what you were concerned about.

    Example: I was born in the Coombe in Dublin. As such, my Irish passport and I have never needed to emigrate into Ireland. I have never needed to seek asylum in Ireland. I ha e never needed to even apply for a working visa in Ireland. I doubt you have either (assuming of course that you are Irish born).


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