Henry Cavill forced to apologize for #metoo comments

DavidLyons_ · 16-07-2018 05:37PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

Rennaws wrote: »

Of course it was. That's what he was saying. He'll be incredibly careful when approaching females in future..

It's coming from a position of fear..

That's not healthy..

That's where the metoo movement has brought us..

If a man doesn’t harass a woman out of fear that’s fine with me.

I don't think Henry Cavill is talking about harassing women though, is he? He was talking about simple flirting.

#metoo will thankfully fall apart as the lunatic element is already exposing itself.

The Bishop Basher · 16-07-2018 05:38PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

If a man doesn’t harass a woman out of fear that’s fine with me.

In one line you encapsulate everything that's wrong with the movement..

Venom · 16-07-2018 05:40PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

If a man doesn’t harass a woman out of fear that’s fine with me.

UrbanFret · 16-07-2018 05:50PM

Will this signal the end of the human race?,where man is afraid to approach woman for fear of being accused of something. Ludicrous situation we have gotten too.

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 06:25PM

Rennaws wrote: »

Of course it was. That's what he was saying. He'll be incredibly careful when approaching females in future..

It's coming from a position of fear..

That's not healthy..

That's where the metoo movement has brought us..

There's nothing to be fearful about.

Think about it, your complaining because a man says he has to be careful when approaching women. A position of fear you say, compare that with the fear of being raped or assaulted that many women have after being attacked!

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 06:27PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

If a man doesn’t harass a woman out of fear that’s fine with me.

That's a step in the right direction but we need to teach young males that it's wrong. Obviously what we're doing now is not working.

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 06:29PM

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

I don't think Henry Cavill is talking about harassing women though, is he? He was talking about simple flirting.

#metoo will thankfully fall apart as the lunatic element is already exposing itself.

To be honest I think it has exposed another side. We all know rapists and sexual deviants exist but I thought the numbers of them was quite small. I'm sure others thought the same.
The metoo campaign has shown that the numbers of these types of scum is actually a lot higher.

py2006 · 16-07-2018 06:29PM

DONTMATTER wrote: »

That's a step in the right direction but we need to teach young males that it's wrong.

Very Louise O'Neill-esk comment.

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 06:30PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

Will this signal the end of the human race?,where man is afraid to approach woman for fear of being accused of something. Ludicrous situation we have gotten too.

Well don't you think women have fears about being approached by men? Which is more frightening?

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 06:31PM

py2006 wrote: »

Very Louise O'Neill-esk comment.

Who's that and what's wrong with teaching young males about sexual behaviour?

py2006 · 16-07-2018 06:33PM

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Who's that and what's wrong with teaching young males about sexual behaviour?

Shes one of your leaders, worship her!

Nothing wrong with teaching young PEOPLE about sexual behaviour. But what you are really saying is teach young MEN to not rape or harass. Because, we all need to be taught that, don't ya know!

Galwayguy35 · 16-07-2018 06:37PM

DONTMATTER wrote: »

That's a step in the right direction but we need to teach young males that it's wrong. Obviously what we're doing now is not working.

That's a typical radfem comment right there, most young men don't need to be told how to treat women because they are decent human beings.

And even if we go with your line of thinking how about we "teach" both genders instead of singling out only young men.

The Bishop Basher · 16-07-2018 06:40PM

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Think about it, your complaining because a man says he has to be careful when approaching women. A position of fear you say, compare that with the fear of being raped or assaulted that many women have after being attacked!

Thankfully I have no idea what you're on about..

This is not a rational conversation.

I'm out..

LLMMLL · 16-07-2018 06:42PM

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

I don't think Henry Cavill is talking about harassing women though, is he? He was talking about simple flirting.

#metoo will thankfully fall apart as the lunatic element is already exposing itself.

He said pursuing after she’s already said no. If you think that’s flirting......

LLMMLL · 16-07-2018 06:44PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

Will this signal the end of the human race?,where man is afraid to approach woman for fear of being accused of something. Ludicrous situation we have gotten too.

You’re positing the end of the human race. I don’t think it’s the current situation that’s ludicrous......

LLMMLL · 16-07-2018 06:45PM

Depends on context.

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 06:48PM

py2006 wrote: »

Shes one of your leaders, worship her!

Nothing wrong with teaching young PEOPLE about sexual behaviour. But what you are really saying is teach you MEN to not rape or harass. Because, we all need to be taught that, don't ya know!

What are you talking about?

Well look at the statistics, who commits more rapes and sexual assaults? Men by a very wide margin. You and I might need to be taught but too many are participating in scummy behaviour as we can see from the metoo campaign.

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 06:50PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

That's a typical radfem comment right there, most young men don't need to be told how to treat women because they are decent human beings.

And even if we go with your line of thinking how about we "teach" both genders instead of singling out only young men.

Of course most young men are decent, did I ever say different? As I said, too many are treating women as pieces of meat, that needs to change.

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 06:52PM

Rennaws wrote: »

Thankfully I have no idea what you're on about..

This is not a rational conversation.

I'm out..

So a man says he fearful of approaching women and you're shouting about the metoo movement going to far but
women say they're fearful of going anywhere alone or they've been attacked in the past and you tell them to prove it or they're just mad feminists!

LLMMLL · 16-07-2018 06:52PM

There’s too many contexts to give a list. Did you have any particular situation in mind?

DavidLyons_ · 16-07-2018 06:57PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

I don't think Henry Cavill is talking about harassing women though, is he? He was talking about simple flirting.

#metoo will thankfully fall apart as the lunatic element is already exposing itself.

He said pursuing after she’s already said no. If you think that’s flirting......

"Cavill, 35, had appeared to suggest in the interview that flirting with somebody would be like “casting myself into the fires of hell”, as a person in the public eye.

The actor said he thinks “stuff has to change” regarding the behaviour of some men, but that “it’s important to also retain the good things, which were a quality of the past, and get rid of the bad things”."

Deary me. Get a grip will ya!

py2006 · 16-07-2018 06:57PM

DONTMATTER wrote: »

What are you talking about?

Well look at the statistics, who commits more rapes and sexual assaults? Men by a very wide margin. You and I might need to be taught but too many are participating in scummy behaviour as we can see from the metoo campaign.

Rape aside, I think a lot of women need to be taught about sexual harassment, inappropriate comments and advances etc. It really isn't on their radar as people like you tell them that only men do it to women. The reality is women often get away with it. Ask any man who has worn a kilt for one example.

As I said on here before, myself and other male posters have commented on Boards before about being touched, grabbed pinched inappropriately on nights out. I've had comments made to me in the workplace about my ass, my crotch etc by women that I know full well I would be in a shed load of trouble if I made similar comments about female colleagues genitalia. Its all banter of course but women get away with it.

LLMMLL · 16-07-2018 07:00PM

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

"Cavill, 35, had appeared to suggest in the interview that flirting with somebody would be like “casting myself into the fires of hell”, as a person in the public eye.

The actor said he thinks “stuff has to change” regarding the behaviour of some men, but that “it’s important to also retain the good things, which were a quality of the past, and get rid of the bad things”."

Deary me. Get a grip will ya!

My grip is fine thanks:

“Now? Now you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No’.”

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 07:01PM

py2006 wrote: »

Rape aside, I think a lot of women need to be taught about sexual harassment, inappropriate comments and advances etc. It really isn't on their radar as people like you tell them that only men do it to women. The reality is women often get away with it. Ask any man who has worn a kilt for one example.

As I said on here before, myself and other male posters have commented on Boards before about being touched, grabbed pinched inappropriately on nights out. I've had comments made to me in the workplace about my ass, my crotch etc by women that I know full well I would be in a shed load of trouble if I made similar comments about female colleagues genitalia. Its all banter of course but women get away with it.

Why didn't you report it to the police? You're only someone on the internet, why should we believe you? Go to court to prove your story.

Galwayguy35 · 16-07-2018 07:01PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

He said pursuing after she’s already said no. If you think that’s flirting......

I'd like to see that quote, I've read a few articles about this and can't see in any of them where he actually said this.

LLMMLL · 16-07-2018 07:01PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I'd like to see that quote, I've read a few articles about this and can't see in any of them where he actually said this.

“Now? Now you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No’.

py2006 · 16-07-2018 07:02PM

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Why didn't you report it to the police? You're only someone on the internet, why should we believe you? Go to court to prove your story.

And what kind of response would a man get?

The touching and grabbing happened in my teens and early twenties in night clubs which I hardly frequented compared to others.

The workplace comments were just banter and at worse I was embarrassed. But you don't see men huddling together all offended collectively and starting social media movements against women. The only reason that it annoys me somewhat is because certain posters on here remind me of the ENORMOUS double standard in society.

DavidLyons_ · 16-07-2018 07:07PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

"Cavill, 35, had appeared to suggest in the interview that flirting with somebody would be like “casting myself into the fires of hell”, as a person in the public eye.

The actor said he thinks “stuff has to change” regarding the behaviour of some men, but that “it’s important to also retain the good things, which were a quality of the past, and get rid of the bad things”."

Deary me. Get a grip will ya!

My grip is fine thanks:

“Now? Now you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No’.”

And? I'm not seeing any quotes from the man where he says it was alright before.

His comments were quite clearly and succinctly about FLIRTING. Disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

DONTMATTER · 16-07-2018 07:09PM

py2006 wrote: »

And what kind of response would a man get?

The touching and grabbing happened in my teens and early twenties in night clubs which I hardly frequented compared to others.

The workplace comments were just banter and at worse I was embarrassed. But you don't see men huddling together all offended collectively and starting social media movements against women. The only reason that on reflecting it annoys me somewhat is the double standard.

You're on here with your witch hunt, why not go to the Gardaí instead of spreading rumours on social media? Why are you suggesting all women are rapists?

py2006 · 16-07-2018 07:10PM

DONTMATTER wrote: »

You're on here with your witch hunt, why not go to the Gardaí instead of spreading rumours on social media? Why are you suggesting all women are rapists?

What in the hell??

Henry Cavill forced to apologize for #metoo comments

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