Dairy chit chat II

freedominacup · 10-07-2018 08:17AM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Did it test as 18%?

Or are they saying that it should be 18%?

I'm still waiting on the answer to that question.

whelan2 · 10-07-2018 03:06PM

Scanned the sexed semen trial ones today. In calf rate is 29 out of 55 served with the trial semen.

Mooooo · 10-07-2018 03:17PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Scanned the sexed semen trial ones today. In calf rate is 29 out of 55 served with the trial semen.

Do they view that as successful?how many rounds of the sexed semen?

whelan2 · 10-07-2018 03:23PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Do they view that as successful?how many rounds of the sexed semen?

The girl just said it was one of the better ones. She condition scored them too and said their Cs was good which helped in the pregnancies. Some served once others served 2 or 3 times

Wildsurfer · 10-07-2018 04:47PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Scanned the sexed semen trial ones today. In calf rate is 29 out of 55 served with the trial semen.

Half of those straws would have been ordinary non sexed straws I think though for comparison purposes within the herds.

whelan2 · 10-07-2018 05:22PM

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Half of those straws would have been ordinary non sexed straws I think though for comparison purposes within the herds.

Yes. One bull none of them held to. Scanner didn't know if a or b was the sexed

Mooooo · 10-07-2018 05:53PM

whelan2 wrote: »

The girl just said it was one of the better ones. She condition scored them too and said their Cs was good which helped in the pregnancies. Some served once others served 2 or 3 times

What was conception to first service? Spring heifers id only ever get 60 to 70, autumn heifers I used to get 80 to 90 a fair bit but a smaller number of heifers and the fact I was always around the yard when they were being served along with same diet every day is the difference there. Doreen used say heifers should be 90% but could never get up there with spring girls

whelan2 · 10-07-2018 05:55PM

Mooooo wrote: »

What was conception to first service? Spring heifers id only ever get 60 to 70, autumn heifers I used to get 80 to 90 a fair bit but a smaller number of heifers and the fact I was always around the yard when they were being served along with same diet every day is the difference there. Doreen used say heifers should be 90% but could never get up there with spring girls

Will look it up later. Would have been poor enough. Tbf the weather was crap when we started serving

Mooooo · 10-07-2018 05:57PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Will look it up later. Would have been poor enough. Tbf the weather was crap when we started serving

Ah yeah was a disaster all over in fairness trying to catch heifers, and I had two vas bulls with em

whelan2 · 10-07-2018 06:02PM

We also were waiting a good while to get the straws at the beginning. Had served a good few before they came. Scanner only said what ones she could see had female calves in them. Which was about 4.

alps · 10-07-2018 09:21PM

Instigators of trials like this need to treat farmers fairly.

Farmers cannot be expected to take a substantial financial risk like this without proper financial back up, and the farmer, giving of time and assets, should never be expected to pick up the pieces and the financial loss from under performing inputs..

Those that stood to gain financially out of this trial aka..AI companies....should be requested to level out any losses farmers incur...

whelan2 · 10-07-2018 09:27PM

alps wrote: »

Instigators of trials like this need to treat farmers fairly.

Farmers cannot be expected to take a substantial financial risk like this without proper financial back up, and the farmer, giving of time and assets, should never be expected to pick up the pieces and the financial loss from under performing inputs..

Those that stood to gain financially out of this trial aka..AI companies....should be requested to level out any losses farmers incur...

The girl doing the scanning couldnt believe we had been charged for the straws.

Base price · 10-07-2018 09:33PM

whelan2 wrote: »

The girl doing the scanning couldnt believe we had been charged for the straws.

When I read your previous comment about been part of a trial I assumed that you would receive the straws for free

whelan2 · 10-07-2018 09:35PM

We didnt have to pay for the scanning

tanko · 10-07-2018 10:01PM

Would it be fair to say that the whole sexed semen thing is a bit crap and doesnt seem to be improving much??

whelan2 · 10-07-2018 10:03PM

tanko wrote: »

Would it be fair to say that the whole sexed semen thing is a bit crap and doesnt seem to be improving much??

I used it a few years ago and was happy with it. Used it on cows .

Wildsurfer · 10-07-2018 10:05PM

alps wrote: »

Instigators of trials like this need to treat farmers fairly.

Farmers cannot be expected to take a substantial financial risk like this without proper financial back up, and the farmer, giving of time and assets, should never be expected to pick up the pieces and the financial loss from under performing inputs..

Those that stood to gain financially out of this trial aka..AI companies....should be requested to level out any losses farmers incur...

This is for the good of the farmer in the long run. AI companies will lose out if anything, if sexed semen works they will only sell a fraction of the straws. And it was only 30 straws which we got at the price of a standard straw. So if you started a few days earlier wasn't going to make much of a difference. We should be pushing to make this work and not expecting a hand out for it. So I took the risk for the greater good. I will give myself a clap on the back for my foresight.

whelan2 · 10-07-2018 10:06PM

Wildsurfer wrote: »

This is for the good of the farmer in the long run. AI companies will lose out if anything, if sexed semen works they will only sell a fraction of the straws. And it was only 30 straws which we got at the price of a standard straw. So if you started a few days earlier wasn't going to make much of a difference. We should be pushing to make this work and not expecting a hand out for it. So I took the risk for the greater good. I will give myself a clap on the back for my foresight.

Did you scan yet?

Wildsurfer · 10-07-2018 10:10PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Did you scan yet?

Ha I might have a different opinion if scanning results are woeful! I did but awaiting email with results as I was away the day he came

dar31 · 10-07-2018 10:44PM

alps wrote: »

Instigators of trials like this need to treat farmers fairly.

Farmers cannot be expected to take a substantial financial risk like this without proper financial back up, and the farmer, giving of time and assets, should never be expected to pick up the pieces and the financial loss from under performing inputs..

Those that stood to gain financially out of this trial aka..AI companies....should be requested to level out any losses farmers incur...

I'd problems last year with ai bull that had a 0% conception rate, I'd a lot of back and forth and a whole lot of agro with the ai co. Was basically told the ai co has no responsibility for the performance of ai straws.

freedominacup · 10-07-2018 10:57PM

dar31 wrote: »

I'd problems last year with ai bull that had a 0% conception rate, I'd a lot of back and forth and a whole lot of agro with the ai co. Was basically told the ai co has no responsibility for the performance of ai straws.

Lesson for everyone there. Probably be an idea to keep a straw or two from every bull at the end of the season. Just in case like.

freedominacup · 10-07-2018 11:00PM

Wildsurfer wrote: »

This is for the good of the farmer in the long run. AI companies will lose out if anything, if sexed semen works they will only sell a fraction of the straws. And it was only 30 straws which we got at the price of a standard straw. So if you started a few days earlier wasn't going to make much of a difference. We should be pushing to make this work and not expecting a hand out for it. So I took the risk for the greater good. I will give myself a clap on the back for my foresight.

If you think for one second AI companies turnover and profits are going to take a hit as sexed semen becomes the norm you're dreaming.

dar31 · 10-07-2018 11:00PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Lesson for everyone there. Probably be an idea to keep a straw or two from every bull at the end of the season. Just in case like.

Live and learn

Base price · 11-07-2018 12:17AM

freedominacup wrote: »

Lesson for everyone there. Probably be an idea to keep a straw or two from every bull at the end of the season. Just in case like.

25 odd years ago when I was jumping through hoops with DAFM to get an import license to import (expensive) beef straws from FR, NL, and UK for use in the pedigree herd, I always kept a straw in storage for a "just in case scenario".

Gawddawggonnit · 11-07-2018 06:03AM

freedominacup wrote: »

Lesson for everyone there. Probably be an idea to keep a straw or two from every bull at the end of the season. Just in case like.

Learned that many moons ago. We now keep a sample of seed from every batch, and a bag that it came in, for all purchased seed. Cuts out any blackguarding on the seed supplier/assemblers behalf...

A combine driver has gotten a serious tooth infection, so yours truly is pressed into action. They say there’s 40 harvests in every man...

Reggie. · 11-07-2018 06:38AM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Learned that many moons ago. We now keep a sample of seed from every batch, and a bag that it came in, for all purchased seed. Cuts out any blackguarding on the seed supplier/assemblers behalf...

A combine driver has gotten a serious tooth infection, so yours truly is pressed into action. They say there’s 40 harvests in every man...

You go girl

MF290 · 11-07-2018 08:31AM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Learned that many moons ago. We now keep a sample of seed from every batch, and a bag that it came in, for all purchased seed. Cuts out any blackguarding on the seed supplier/assemblers behalf...

A combine driver has gotten a serious tooth infection, so yours truly is pressed into action. They say there’s 40 harvests in every man...

Harvester driver where I’m working for the summer has 56 harvests under the belt. Driving a lexion 770 and started in a Massey 726.

Waffletraktor · 11-07-2018 08:46AM

MF290 wrote: »

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Learned that many moons ago. We now keep a sample of seed from every batch, and a bag that it came in, for all purchased seed. Cuts out any blackguarding on the seed supplier/assemblers behalf...

A combine driver has gotten a serious tooth infection, so yours truly is pressed into action. They say there’s 40 harvests in every man...

Harvester driver where I’m working for the summer has 56 harvests under the belt. Driving a lexion 770 and started in a Massey 726.

Started yet?

MF290 · 11-07-2018 12:11PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Started yet?

Not yet, early next week I believe. Heavy land. Just hovering stores atm.
Have you started?

Gawddawggonnit · 11-07-2018 12:30PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Started yet?

Be finished cereals and osr by end of next week...

I’m wondering should turn into an obnoxious plick when I get tired, like every combine pilot.

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