The Daily bets, Banter & Accumulators thread IV

ben.schlomo · 08-07-2018 06:21PM

spix wrote: »

ben.schlomo wrote: »

An 800000/1 bet is that price for reason, it has no chance. They won't offer a cash out because the bet would never win so why would they offer you free money.

Because there clearly is some chance, if several underdogs which were supposed to get trashed were winning at half time.

If it was a ht result bet then great, it wasn't though so the bet lost. How many of the legs lost?

spix · 08-07-2018 06:28PM

ben.schlomo wrote: »

If it was a ht result bet then great, it wasn't though so the bet lost. How many of the legs lost?

3 winners, 4 losers, 1 no show. All were winning at half time (except the no show team obviously) and up to ~60th minute, then 2 which I had a draw on quickly went from 1-1 to 3-1 down. All downhill from there...

ben.schlomo · 08-07-2018 06:30PM

spix wrote: »

ben.schlomo wrote: »

If it was a ht result bet then great, it wasn't though so the bet lost. How many of the legs lost?

3 winners, 4 losers, 1 no show. All were winning at half time (except the no show team obviously) and up to ~60th minute, then 2 which I had a draw on quickly went from 1-1 to 3-1 down.

So you expect to receive a cash out option on a bet where less than 50% were winners. And on a bet that no chance. Mind boggling stuff.

spix · 08-07-2018 06:34PM

ben.schlomo wrote: »

So you expect to receive a cash out option on a bet where less than 50% were winners. And on a bet that no chance. Mind boggling stuff.

Yeah but at half time, surely its worth some offer, not even a few euro? Pretty sure those starting 800,000/1 odds were significantly lower at half time. They gladly give cashout options when your bet has 1in500 chance of winning in the 90th minute.

inforfun · 08-07-2018 07:04PM

Where all those matches played at the same time?

If so, cash out is quite often not available if 1 of those matches doesnt kick off.
We are talking about some dodgy state league in Brasil, bookies often dont know what is happening (delayed kick off, postponed, no show ..whatever)

If it had been PL for example, a match not starting is quickly voided and your 8fold becomes a 7-fold with cash out.

And even them, on a 800000\1 accumulator your cash out would probably be around tree fiddy

spix · 08-07-2018 07:20PM

inforfun wrote: »

Where all those matches played at the same time?

If so, cash out is quite often not available if 1 of those matches doesnt kick off.
We are talking about some dodgy state league in Brasil, bookies often dont know what is happening (delayed kick off, postponed, no show ..whatever)

If it had been PL for example, a match not starting is quickly voided and your 8fold becomes a 7-fold with cash out.

And even them, on a 800000\1 accumulator your cash out would probably be around tree fiddy

Yeah they were around the same time. I thought it might be because of the no show but I had one more slightly different accumulator without the no show team and that didn't have any cashout either. I asked PP if there's any odds limit where cashout is automatically removed so I could avoid that happening in the future. The answer implied there is none but is done at their discretion. The cashout option was there on both bets before kick off, when I checked at half time and saw how well it was going, went to check the cashout to see both had vanished.

inforfun · 08-07-2018 07:33PM

PP is crap anyway but i doubt you would have cash out on bet365

spix · 08-07-2018 07:38PM

inforfun wrote: »

PP is crap anyway but i doubt you would have cash out on bet365

Maybe not... spoils the fun though. I wasn't expecting thousands or even hundreds cashout but having the option removed completely, I knew I'd end up with nothing. I've done a few of these crazy high odds bets before and normally when I check, all of them are guaranteed losers already. This was the complete opposite so got excited for a moment, until I realised there's always someone watching!

shmeee · 09-07-2018 08:26AM

spix wrote: »

Maybe not... spoils the fun though. I wasn't expecting thousands or even hundreds cashout but having the option removed completely, I knew I'd end up with nothing. I've done a few of these crazy high odds bets before and normally when I check, all of them are guaranteed losers already. This was the complete opposite so got excited for a moment, until I realised there's always someone watching!

Paddy would have had no market for the game which the team didn't show for. If there is no in-play betting then they can't offer a cash out as no active market on the game.

That's one of the reasons why you would have had no cashout.

spix · 09-07-2018 12:16PM

inforfun wrote: »

If so, cash out is quite often not available if 1 of those matches doesnt kick off.
We are talking about some dodgy state league in Brasil, bookies often dont know what is happening (delayed kick off, postponed, no show ..whatever)

If it had been PL for example, a match not starting is quickly voided and your 8fold becomes a 7-fold with cash out.

The bet settled as a loss, the other team was awarded a 3-0 victory due to no show. That would've been interesting had all the other results stuck.

inforfun · 09-07-2018 12:55PM

Should be a void.

Headshot · 09-07-2018 07:53PM

Hi guys

question besides bet365 is there any other bookie that provide results of a match including corner count?

inforfun · 09-07-2018 08:03PM

flashscore.co.uk does for most leagues

Headshot · 09-07-2018 08:13PM

inforfun wrote: »

flashscore.co.uk does for most leagues

yup I know that but I want something from bet365 compeitior

Bet365 are not paying out on a bet of corners even though the likes of flashscore, soccerway and MLS official site saying I won but I like to get another bookie to back me up

inforfun · 09-07-2018 08:21PM

Oh... tough one.
888 puts the outcome on your betslip history but well... try to find someone who had that bet there.
Good luck with that.
Other than that i dont know of any bookie doing a result page like bet365 do.

Which match was it?

Headshot · 09-07-2018 08:26PM

inforfun wrote: »

Oh... tough one.
888 puts the outcome on your betslip history but well... try to find someone who had that bet there.
Good luck with that.
Other than that i dont know of any bookie doing a result page like bet365 do.

Which match was it?

It's only small money so it's not a big deal

I attached the screenshot of the bet New York City V New York Red Bulls

As you can see I bet 5 corners,

https://www.flashscore.com/match/KbdzWKwH/#match-summary

https://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2018-07-08-new-york-city-fc-vs-new-york-red-bulls/stats

https://ie.soccerway.com/matches/2018/07/09/united-states/mls/new-york-city/new-york-red-bulls/2710521/?ICID=HP_MS_51_01

http://www.espn.com/soccer/match?gameId=502539

All say 5 corners.

inforfun · 09-07-2018 08:38PM

26'

Sean Davis (New York Red Bulls) steps up to send the ball in.

Cant see how they can miss that one. If it had been 1 in injury time you might have the debate whether or not it was taken.
Found highlights but jumps from kick off straight to the 36th minute.

Gavin "shels" · 09-07-2018 11:41PM

Headshot wrote: »

yup I know that but I want something from bet365 compeitior

Bet365 are not paying out on a bet of corners even though the likes of flashscore, soccerway and MLS official site saying I won but I like to get another bookie to back me up

WilliamHill do results with corners.

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/results///E/13130290/yesterday/2018/07/%209///New+York+City+v+NY+Red+Bulls.html

They're on 5 Corners too. If I'm not mistaken both Bet365 and WH use RunningBall software too.

callaway92 · 10-07-2018 10:10AM

I can see why they missed the one in the 26th minute to be honest, because it wasn't a completed corner. Other than that, there were 4 corners (all in the second half for Red Bulls)

A foul occurred before the ball was kicked. I've uploaded the clip of the corner here: https://sendvid.com/qckcn5n1

Ref blew his whistle before the corner was kicked, so it was a free out.

inforfun · 10-07-2018 10:21AM

Well, they didnt miss it then. They just applied their rules for corners that they need to be taken to be counted. And that one wasnt taken.
Harsh but same as when a corner isnt taken because of half time whistle.
Frustrating as hell but there you go.

callaway92 · 10-07-2018 10:24AM

inforfun wrote: »

Well, they didnt miss it then. They just applied their rules for corners that they need to be taken to be counted. And that one wasnt taken.
Harsh but same as when a corner isnt taken because of half time whistle.
Frustrating as hell but there you go.

Exactly - It's pretty cruel, but that's the way it goes.

shmeee · 10-07-2018 01:44PM

callaway92 wrote: »

Exactly - It's pretty cruel, but that's the way it goes.

Corners can be a cruel game.

Corner has to be physically taken for it to count.

Got done more times either at HT or FT when ball wasn’t struck.

That’s the rules bet365 go by so nothing one can do about it.

inforfun · 11-07-2018 02:56PM

Young Boys - Feyenoord KO 1700

YB @ 2.05

Feyenoord arrived yesterday for a week of training, still without their WC players and therefor a very young squad.
Swiss league starting in 10 days, YB must be a bit further in their preparation as well

inforfun · 11-07-2018 05:46PM

3-0 YB

Danick · 11-07-2018 05:47PM

inforfun wrote: »

3-0 YB

Brill tip - thanks

inforfun · 13-07-2018 09:08AM

Basel - Feyenoord

Feyenoord lost 3-0 to YB which flattered YB somewhat
Van Persie and 2 new signings who didnt play against YB will play some part tonight and should make Feyenoord a bit more mature compared to the very young team that played YB

Basel @2.3 for the win
Basel DNB @1.8
Basel DC @1.5

markc91 · 13-07-2018 09:43AM

inforfun wrote: »

Basel - Feyenoord

Feyenoord lost 3-0 to YB which flattered YB somewhat
Van Persie and 2 new signings who didnt play against YB will play some part tonight and should make Feyenoord a bit more mature compared to the very young team that played YB

Basel @2.3 for the win
Basel DNB @1.8
Basel DC @1.5

Basel playing now aswell as later?

inforfun · 13-07-2018 10:07AM

markc91 wrote: »

Basel playing now aswell as later?

Yep, just saw that.

Not helping....

Will try to figure out whether feyenoord do have a training session today because if that is the case, it does cancel out the advantage

Basle line up now:

Dh-hnKJX4AA2rts.jpg:medium

And squad last season:

https://uk.soccerway.com/teams/switzerland/fc-basel/2174/squad/

Only 2 names there that had some part to play last season.

Edit: No training for Feyenoord today, just the match

Danick · 13-07-2018 06:23PM

inforfun wrote: »

Yep, just saw that.

Not helping....

Will try to figure out whether feyenoord do have a training session today because if that is the case, it does cancel out the advantage

Basle line up now:

And squad last season:

https://uk.soccerway.com/teams/switzerland/fc-basel/2174/squad/

Only 2 names there that had some part to play last season.

Edit: No training for Feyenoord today, just the match

Sorry - confused by this - are Feyenoord and Basel both at full strength this evening? Thanks

PopePalpatine · 13-07-2018 07:51PM

I don't think that earlier friendly served Basel too well.

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