Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

06-07-2018 05:10PM

jayo26 wrote: »

He did well in the game if course he did but nothing more.

If He put in decent performances for United like that secind half again next season not many would complain but he wasn't best player on pitch.

I haven't discussed who the best player on the pitch was.

But out of interest who was? Thought the performance was professional and quite easy in the end for France.

But I'm not sure there was many candidates for MOTM

FixitFelix · 06-07-2018 05:11PM

beakerjoe wrote: »

Pogba doesnt contribute enough to be a world class palyer. He has the talent, but hasnt the application. He rarely delivers.

Hes strong, great passer but he switches off too easily, his work rate is below the standard and his decison making often is just bad.

He hasnt done well for United and IMO drags us down.

I don't usually agree with Richie Sadlier but he hit the nail on the head in saying Pogba seems happier to do flashy pieces of individual skill, I.e step overs etc than to actually do basic things that will have a bigger contribution to the team game

06-07-2018 05:14PM

Interested to see the way this pans out.

If France win the world cup and the way it's been projected that so much of the focus of the setup runs through Pogba then what will the critics have to say?

jayo26 · 06-07-2018 05:15PM

Fred The Red wrote: »

I haven't discussed who the best player on the pitch was.

But out of interest who was? Thought the performance was professional and quite easy in the end for France.

But I'm not sure there was many candidates for MOTM

I thought it was griezman to be honest his free kick was pretty fantastic delivered into the box and even tho the paper dropped a clanger for the goal he still needed to take the shot. His movement up front was very good.

I didn't think pogba was bad or anything.

jayo26 · 06-07-2018 05:18PM

FixitFelix wrote: »

I don't usually agree with Richie Sadlier but he hit the nail on the head in saying Pogba seems happier to do flashy pieces of individual skill, I.e step overs etc than to actually do basic things that will have a bigger contribution to the team game

Thats just as hyperbole as saying that he is the best player on the pitch. He did an awful lot if basics right today it has been solid most of the world cup. Yes his style is to do some flashy things that don't always come off but he doesn't always need to be targeted for them if he has put In a decent performance.

FixitFelix · 06-07-2018 05:18PM

Fred The Red wrote: »

Interested to see the way this pans out.

If France win the world cup and the way it's been projected that so much of the focus of the setup runs through Pogba then what will the critics have to say?

There's not much the critics can say he'll be a world cup winner, but im sure they'll come up with something unless he gets the winner in the final of course

fatherted1969 · 06-07-2018 05:25PM

astradave wrote: »

But we never play that way really in those matches, we are usually camped out in their half trying to break down stubborn defences.

Fred is a box to box player and he has a very good passing range, likes to play the ball forward and always seems to look for the thru ball from what I have seen of him. He has a great engine too.

I must have been looking at a completely different season than you so. Football up to end of Oct was excellent iirc but there wasn't many matches after that where we were camped anywhere. Our defeat to the worst team in the premiership at Old Trafford contained 2 defensive midfielders Herrera and Matic alongside Pogba. He has to be able to add that game intelligence to his game to be able to adapt to a two man midfield. We surely cannot play 2 holding midfielders against the likes of West Brom next season.

jayo26 · 06-07-2018 05:35PM

fatherted1969 wrote: »

I must have been looking at a completely different season than you so. Football up to end of Oct was excellent iirc but there wasn't many matches after that where we were camped anywhere. Our defeat to the worst team in the premiership at Old Trafford contained 2 defensive midfielders Herrera and Matic alongside Pogba. He has to be able to add that game intelligence to his game to be able to adapt to a two man midfield. We surely cannot play 2 holding midfielders against the likes of West Brom next season.

Just because we play two deep players dont mean they are two defensive midfielders Herrera is not a defensive midfielder or a holding midfielder the closest he ever comes it was when asked to man mark hazard for a game.

Fred is a deep lying playmaker that is also very good at contributing defensively he will not be a defensive midfielder same as pogba will never be a defensive midfielder he will be required to work defensively when needed.

RobertKK · 06-07-2018 05:59PM

Fellaini starts for Belgium.

beakerjoe · 06-07-2018 06:21PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Fellaini starts for Belgium.

I like the big lug but I always feel hes a better impact sub than a starter.

DM_7 · 06-07-2018 06:32PM

beakerjoe wrote: »

I like the big lug but I always feel hes a better impact sub than a starter.

They need him v Brazil. Can't allow them space to play like they did v Japan. Chadli and Fell should set them up better without the ball and also for the important set pieces.

Will I Am Not · 06-07-2018 06:45PM

DM_7 wrote: »

They need him v Brazil. Can't allow them space to play like they did v Japan. Chadli and Fell should set them up better without the ball and also for the important set pieces.

I think you’re giving Martinez a bit too much credit there. I’d say it was more like, they scored when they came on in the last game so I should probably start them.
In my humble opinion, that man is the biggest spoofer in football. I’m still amazed he is tasked with managing such a talented crop of players.

adox · 06-07-2018 07:13PM

Frees up De Bruyne to play further up the pitch which can only be a good thing if you want Belgium to win, which I do.

Trigger · 06-07-2018 07:19PM

And Fella wins the corner that leads directly to Belgium goal

06-07-2018 07:23PM

Lukaku very good so far

downwesht · 06-07-2018 07:27PM

Ronnie Whelan so critical of united players.Lukaku beats his man with a nutmeg and Ronnie claims that he got his feet mixed up!
Bitter ex dipper!

Hococop · 06-07-2018 07:32PM

Fantastic by lukaku

06-07-2018 07:34PM

Hococop wrote: »

Fantastic by lukaku

He's such a great player, no nonsense, no diving no bull****

Pace and power

I forget at times he plays for Utd

He has brought his league form into the WC with ease

J. Marston · 06-07-2018 07:36PM

downwesht wrote: »

Ronnie Whelan so critical of united players.Lukaku beats his man with a nutmeg and Ronnie claims that he got his feet mixed up!
Bitter ex dipper!

He did get his feet mixed up though. He lost the ball because of it.

Either way, great play for the second goal.

jayo26 · 06-07-2018 07:38PM

Fellaini best player on the pitch this half

pjohnson · 06-07-2018 07:46PM

jayo26 wrote: »

Fellaini best player on the pitch this half

Sure its not Pogba?

06-07-2018 07:47PM

jayo26 wrote: »

Fellaini best player on the pitch this half

Battle between him, Lukaku, hazard and de bruyne

Belgium have been very good

ElChe32 · 06-07-2018 07:48PM

Lads if Belgium win the World Cup. I honestly worry for Bangkok's well being. Marouane Fellaini world cup winner may tip him over the edge.

06-07-2018 07:49PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

Lads if Belgium win the World Cup. I honestly worry for Bangkok's well being. Marouane Fellaini world cup winner may tip him over the edge.

Hahahahah
Class post

adox · 06-07-2018 07:51PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

Lads if Belgium win the World Cup. I honestly worry for Bangkok's well being. Marouane Fellaini world cup winner may tip him over the edge.

He’s been excellent that half.

Lukaku Hazard and De Bruyne have been unbelievable.

xtal191 · 06-07-2018 07:52PM

Lukaku has been immense, quickly becoming my favourite player at Utd

DM_7 · 06-07-2018 07:59PM

More evidence that Lukaku can be a great forward in an attack focused side.

Really wish United would get the top level attacker to go with him and Alexis Sanchez.

Liam McPoyle · 06-07-2018 08:02PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Lukaku has been immense, quickly becoming my favourite player at Utd

A proper leader.

Future captain too imo.

jayo26 · 06-07-2018 08:03PM

Yeah was just saying in the faceache group he doesn't get enough praise for his link up play he is so intelligent.

downwesht · 06-07-2018 08:07PM

Firmino on and Ronnie Whelan is creaming himself....he still thinks Coutinho is at Anfield

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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