Feeling bad for not being born in America

masterson1 · 05-07-2018 12:25AM

verycool wrote: »

You'd fit right in with your head in the clouds.

Having dreams and ambitions means that your head is in the clouds? Okay, sorry, i'll go and live my pathetic worthless life working for someone else in the office and will continue to hate myself everyday instead of actually doing something that I like and have always dreamed about. Sorry, I'm an idiot.

verycool · 05-07-2018 12:26AM

masterson1 wrote: »

Having dreams and ambitions means that your head is in the clouds? Okay, sorry, i'll go and live my pathetic worthless life working for someone else in the office and will continue to hate myself everyday instead of actually doing something that I like and have always dreamed about. Sorry, I'm an idiot.

I thought you were an Irish?

EDIT: Dammit... missed an obvious Green Day reference.

masterson1 · 05-07-2018 12:26AM

Omackeral wrote: »

America is the last place you want to go if healthcare is top of your wish list.

It isn't, I acknowledge that problem but I've said that Ireland also has problems with healthcare.

Somedaythefire · 05-07-2018 12:28AM

masterson1 wrote: »

Having dreams and ambitions means that your head is in the clouds? Okay, sorry, i'll go and live my pathetic worthless life working for someone else in the office and will continue to hate myself everyday instead of actually doing something that I like and have always dreamed about. Sorry, I'm an idiot.

You can study astrophysics in Ireland, you know? Study, get your qualifications, then maybe think about America. Although if you think Ireland has problems with healthcare, you don't really know much about America. It seems you don't want to live in the actual country, but an idealised version of it.

Cienciano · 05-07-2018 12:29AM

Just gonna open another kinder egg, put some money on the world cup quarter finals and light up a cuban cigar. Enjoy your freedom op

Arrival · 05-07-2018 12:30AM

Why can't you move there? Study something like computer science, get some experience here and get into a multinational and then relocate, they'll look after everything. Plenty of Irish and European people have done it. You just don't want it as much as you think you do, otherwise you wouldn't be making this thread, you'd actually be already working towards the goal

masterson1 · 05-07-2018 12:30AM

Somedaythefire wrote: »

You can study astrophysics in Ireland, you know? Study, get your qualifications, then maybe think about America. Although if you think Ireland has problems with healthcare, you don't really know much about America. It seems you don't want to like in the actual country, but an idealised version of it.

It's not, I am studying information technology in university and that is what I would like to work as. I am thinking if getting a job in Ireland would get me in other countries if I work in one of the IT companies in here.

relax carry on · 05-07-2018 12:30AM

God, tell me I want like this at 22. I probably was.

OP, travel a bit and live and work in a few countrys for a few years before deciding on where you wish to end up. You are still in university and unless there's some mad back story missing here, you haven't come to appreciate how blessed you are to live in a stable functioning state.

05-07-2018 12:30AM

One thing I'll say is fair play to the OP for knowing there are 50 states and not 52. Amount of fcukbags that think that is surreal. 50 is a memorable rounded off number. 50 stars for 50 states. God I hate people.

Sophia S. · 05-07-2018 12:31AM

Always greener on the other side. That being said, if you want to immigrate to the U.S. it's totally possible. It might take some time, but you can totally make it happen. And if you do, you will have an amazing sense of accomplishment.

btw, today is their independence day.

Happy Birthday America!

masterson1 · 05-07-2018 12:31AM

Arrival wrote: »

Why can't you move there? Study something like computer science, get some experience here and get into a multinational and then relocate, they'll look after everything. Plenty of Irish and European people have done it. You just don't want it as much as you think you do, otherwise you wouldn't be making this thread, you'd actually be already working towards the goal

I'm in my 3rd year of university course in computer science. Thank you for the suggestion, I feel a bit more motivated now.

Somedaythefire · 05-07-2018 12:33AM

masterson1 wrote: »

It's not, I am studying information technology in university and that is what I would like to work as. I am thinking if getting a job in Ireland would get me in other countries if I work in one of the IT companies in here.

Then do that. Get a job at a company either based out of the US, or with offices there. Work your bollocks off and get them to sponsor you to go to America. I know a couple of people that did it, then you can come back on here and complain about the lack of holidays, how expensive healthcare is and all that good stuff.

anthonyos · 05-07-2018 12:34AM

masterson1 wrote: »

I'm in my 3rd year of university course in computer science. Thank you for the suggestion, I feel a bit more motivated now.

have you ever been to the USA and if so where

wakka12 · 05-07-2018 12:34AM

I would agree that you could live life 'fuller' in america, many of the greatest sights in the world are there, but those lifestyles belong to a relatively small number of americans, the average american has lower quality of life than most irish people.
And well yeh their mcmansions are huge but why do you want to live in one? I like the modest size irish homes, no need for bigger homes, they waste so much money and damage the environment heating and lighting their obscenely large plastic abodes and have to use cars to get around because no public transport can service their horrible endless urban sprawl

As for weather, how is rain ****ter than tornadoes or forest fires or earthquakes? Think you need a bit of reality check, I know you'll say Im being dramatic but be grateful that you live in a very fair and equal and lawful society rather than the many dangerous **** holes which make up the majority of the world
People and their families die trying to get to countries like ireland..and you're complaining about some hypothetically wasted opportunity about possibly not living life to the fullest

Losty Dublin · 05-07-2018 12:34AM

Mutant z wrote: »

Health care is much harder to access in the USA especially if you dont have health insurance thats a huge disadvantage there as bad as things are here at least patients arnt literally turned away at the dòor as they are in the USA because they cant health care and are uninsured.

My ex is an American. Last year her Dad was undergoing a second round of Chemo treatment for cancer that lasted for six weeks, with his medics a six week recovery afterwards. His employers generously gave him unpaid leave for the treatment but wanted him back after he came back from the treatment. He had to go back to work at the threat of losing his job, lasted about two weeks and was curtly let go when he told them that he needed more time off.

By the way, he worked for a hospital group so it's not as if they didn't know better.

verycool · 05-07-2018 12:34AM

"Wherever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Banzai

masterson1 · 05-07-2018 12:36AM

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Then do that. Get a job at a company either based out of the US, or with offices there. Work your bollocks off and get them to sponsor you to go to America. I know a couple of people that did it, then you can come back on here and complain about the lack of holidays, how expensive healthcare is and all that good stuff.

I guess I would have to experience it to understand it. It would still be my dream to live there.

Somedaythefire · 05-07-2018 12:36AM

Losty Dublin wrote: »

My ex is an American. Last year her Dad was undergoing a second round of Chemo treatment for cancer that lasted for six weeks, with his medics a six week recovery afterwards. His employers generously gave him unpaid leave for the treatment but wanted him back after he came back from the treatment. He had to go back to work at the threat of losing his job, lasted about two weeks and was curtly let go when he told them that he needed more time off.

By the way, he worked for a hospital group so it's not as if they didn't know better.

Yeah, a lot of states have at will employment and can fire you without a reason. If they were sponsoring you there, you would be up ****s creek if they did it.

masterson1 · 05-07-2018 12:37AM

anthonyos wrote: »

have you ever been to the USA and if so where

I've been to New York and New Jersey but only for 3 weeks in total.

Somedaythefire · 05-07-2018 12:38AM

masterson1 wrote: »

I guess I would have to experience it to understand it. It would still be my dream to live there.

You're in college, go on a J1

05-07-2018 12:38AM

masterson1 wrote: »

I guess I would have to experience it to understand it. It would still be my dream to live there.

Go for a summer and see what it's like

Twenty Grand · 05-07-2018 12:38AM

masterson1 wrote: »

I'm in my 3rd year of university course in computer science. Thank you for the suggestion, I feel a bit more motivated now.

Go on the j1

Losty Dublin · 05-07-2018 12:42AM

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Yeah, a lot of states have at will employment and can fire you without a reason. If they were sponsoring you there, you would be up ****s creek if they did it.

Well I know it and it's an eon away from labour laws here. One day she told me that her company had released their Quarter Year results and they were down a fair bit; before lunch that same day they instantly let 200 go from their head office, with their by then ex colleagues told to pack up the desks for them and to drop the bags at HR. I said to her that it sounded like something that you'd expect to see in a film about the Holocaust.

masterson1 · 05-07-2018 12:44AM

Somedaythefire wrote: »

You're in college, go on a J1

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Go on the j1

Thank you for the suggestion.

Sophia S. · 05-07-2018 12:45AM

I recommend Texas, Dallas in particular. You can see for miles when you go up on an overpass. Great food, friendly people, and beautiful women. Plus a booming economy.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 05-07-2018 12:48AM

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Well I know it and it's an eon away from labour laws here. One day she told me that her company had released their Quarter Year results and they were down a fair bit; before lunch that same day they instantly let 200 go from their head office, with their by then ex colleagues told to pack up the desks for them and to drop the bags at HR. I said to her that it sounded like something that you'd expect to see in a film about the Holocaust.

Apple in Cupertino used to cull workers after every yearly result, even when making a profit. About 1%. Which adds up.

However here the first year is about the same, there’s no protection.

circular flexing · 05-07-2018 01:12AM

KungPao wrote: »

I’ve always wanted to visit North Dakota, you betcha.

And Washington state to see where Cobain lived and see some Twin Peaks country.

I’d say it’s a hard place to settle though unless you get a good job, and can put up with cops sticking guns in your face because you forgot your driving licence.

I've been to Aberdeen - it's a real soulless ****hole.

The sign saying "Welcome to Aberdeen" has "Come as you are" underneath it so that's kind of cool I guess.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 05-07-2018 01:17AM

circular flexing wrote: »

I've been to Aberdeen - it's a real soulless ****hole.

The sign saying "Welcome to Aberdeen" has "Come as you are" underneath it so that's kind of cool I guess.

Don't think Cobain himself held any gra for his hometown. Didn't exactly fit in I'd imagine.

Would probably resent them using that sign. Lol.

EdgeCase · 05-07-2018 01:25AM

masterson1 wrote: »

Ireland has problems as well, especially in terms of healthcare. I believe in terms of jobs, you have many more opportunities in USA. If I want to be an astronaut, I have that opportunity in USA, rocket scientist, military aircraft pilot etc.

You can do all of the above in Ireland on the space side anyway, by doing a relevant degree, getting out there and working for the European Space Agency, which has astronauts, who regularly go to space. There are also plenty of opportunities to work in aerospace engineering, although rocket science is fairly niche...

Nor very many people actually get to be astronauts in any country. There’s something like 25 of them — in total.

I know two Irish people who work in space science and around the design of probes and so on.

I’ve lived in both countries and on both continents and life is very much what you make of it. You’ve vast opportunities here, particularly because access to university and further is very very affordable and has almost no barriers.

You just have to see the EU as “home turf” and be willing to plug into it. It’s far, far more accessible than you seem to realise.

Ireland actually ranks significantly better than the US on democracy, economic feeedom, press freedom and a whole load of other indexes btw. I’ve lived in both and the grass isn’t always greener in reality.

Also on the House size thing. Try somewhere expensive in the US and see what you get. Cheap places in Ireland have affordable huge houses too.

Chaos Tourist · 05-07-2018 01:38AM

Would it be easier to get set up in Canada? It's still North America like. A few big cities, great scenery etc.

Feeling bad for not being born in America

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