Feeling bad for not being born in America

masterson1

I know this may sound stupid but I kind of feel sad for not being born in United States. I know Ireland isn't a "****hole" country but I still feel like there would be so many more opportunities in USA. As an Irish, I tried to find a way to emigrate but it seems like it is almost impossible to do it. I would give up so much just to have a chance to live there legally. I know that United States have their own problems but at the same time, Ireland also has many problems. It is massive country with 50 states, most of them larger than most European countries.

I see it as a type of European Union with no English language barrier. There are 27 other countries in Europe I could go to but they have different culture and language barriers. I would love to live the "American dream" and I am a bit sad that I can't because I was born on the wrong piece of land. Say what you want about United States, but they really do have their freedom. Government doesn't control your lives, the taxes are low compared to Ireland, a small house in the United States is considered a mansion in Ireland. Firearms are legal, free speech is completely legal. Petrol prices are cheap, the nature is absolutely amazing and so is the weather in many states. I feel like if I was American, I would have 50 different countries(states) to choose from, all of which are unique.

I think that it is an absolutely amazing country and I am genuinely depressed that I cannot live there. While many people prefer to give power to their government in terms of control like excessive health and safety, banning of all weapons, knives etc. I feel that personal freedom is essential for happiness. I feel quite restricted in Ireland, health and safety everywhere, horrible pictures on cigarettes (I don't smoke), ****e weather for most of the year, excessive restrictions on personal freedoms. All of Ireland has less than half of the population of New York. I would like to experience life to the fullest and I think doing that in Ireland is not possible.

If anyone knows of realistic way to emigrate to USA, any help would be appreciated. You can't really count on something like a green card lottery to get there.

verycool

When are the schools back?

nullzero

"as an Irish..."

Post of the day.

Pelvis

What freedoms are you lacking in Ireland?

MissTheDome

I regret that last cup of coffee

D Trent

The grass is always greener once the apple falls on the cream at the top.

Mutant z

I wouldnt trade my nationality for the world I'm Irish and very proud to be so.

relax carry on

Won't someone think of the children!

shakeitoff

It's not what you think

Pawwed Rig

Nice place to visit and even to live short term. I've been there 6 or 7 times with a combined stay of maybe a year (longest at a time was 7 months). Have to say I wouldn't like to live there permanently.

OP if you want to move there get a skill that is wanted over there and go. Can't imagine it is too hard to get a visa.

Try_harder

I would hate to live in America atm

masterson1

verycool wrote: »

When are the schools back?

I am 22 actually and still a college student, so I guess you're right. Back in September.

verycool

masterson1 wrote: »

I am 22 actually and still a college student, so I guess you're right. Back in September.

"As a 22 Irish"?

masterson1

I personally love nature, USA has so much of it. Go north and you'll get cold winters, empty fields of grass and forests. Go south and you'll see desert, cliffs, rocks. The diversity is amazing.

Atoms for Peace

A little piece of you,
The little peace in me,
Will die,
For this is not America,

Varik

Wait till the next Democrat is in the White house, fly to mexico and when the new president over compensates on immigration cross the border.

masterson1

nullzero wrote: »

"as an Irish..."

Post of the day.

Meant to say that I don't get special privileges to live there with no restrictions like I could go and live in Germany tomorrow if I wanted to. Unless you're on the "special" nationality list, you can't move there and live legally.

masterson1

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Nice place to visit and even to live short term. I've been there 6 or 7 times with a combined stay of maybe a year (longest at a time was 7 months). Have to say I wouldn't like to live there permanently.

OP if you want to move there get a skill that is wanted over there and go. Can't imagine it is too hard to get a visa.

I thought the maximum time you could stay there was 3 months? I would like to try for myself, finish university and go there for a year.

KungPao

I’ve always wanted to visit North Dakota, you betcha.

And Washington state to see where Cobain lived and see some Twin Peaks country.

I’d say it’s a hard place to settle though unless you get a good job, and can put up with cops sticking guns in your face because you forgot your driving licence.

Uncharted

I think you deserve to be in America.

Particularly Texas. You'd love it.

The death penalty is in constant use there.


Please go....

verycool

Uncharted wrote: »

I think you deserve to be in America.

Particularly Texas. You'd love it.

The death penalty is in constant use there.


Please go....

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masterson1

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Freedom of speech won't feed my children....Not that I have any.

Ireland has problems as well, especially in terms of healthcare. I believe in terms of jobs, you have many more opportunities in USA. If I want to be an astronaut, I have that opportunity in USA, rocket scientist, military aircraft pilot etc.

LilRedDorcha

Can't say it's somewhere I'd like to live and work. I used to work with Americans so I was sent over there for work twice. They couldn't believe how many holidays we get and that we actually get proper maternity leave. One of them was also talking about how expensive health care is if you don't have insurance. Even with insurance it was more than what I had to pay for stuff at home.

It's obviously not all bad, but those would be pretty big issues for me. Also, the guys I worked with had to take sick days out of their holiday time. One of them needed two weeks off for surgery so that was his holiday time gone.

Mutant z

Health care is much harder to access in the USA especially if you dont have health insurance thats a huge disadvantage there as bad as things are here at least patients arnt literally turned away at the door as they are in the USA because they cant health care and are uninsured.

verycool

masterson1 wrote: »

Ireland has problems as well, especially in terms of healthcare. I believe in terms of jobs, you have many more opportunities in USA. If I want to be an astronaut, I have that opportunity in USA, rocket scientist, military aircraft pilot etc.

You'd fit right in with your head in the clouds.

masterson1

Uncharted wrote: »

I think you deserve to be in America.

Particularly Texas. You'd love it.

The death penalty is in constant use there.


Please go....

I'm completely against death penalty, it's stupid. Innocent people have been killed. No country on earth is perfect though.

Somedaythefire

masterson1 wrote: »

Ireland has problems as well, especially in terms of healthcare. I believe in terms of jobs, you have many more opportunities in USA. If I want to be an astronaut, I have that opportunity in USA, rocket scientist, military aircraft pilot etc.

Aren't you a right dreamer?

Omackeral

Try_harder wrote: »

I would hate to live in America atm

So would I but it would be mad cramped but you might find some of the cash that slipped down the back or something.

anthonyos

have you been to the US much

Omackeral

masterson1 wrote: »

Ireland has problems as well, especially in terms of healthcare. I believe in terms of jobs, you have many more opportunities in USA. If I want to be an astronaut, I have that opportunity in USA, rocket scientist, military aircraft pilot etc.

America is the last place you want to go if healthcare is top of your wish list.

verycool

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Aren't you a right dreamer?

But he's not the only one.

masterson1

verycool wrote: »

You'd fit right in with your head in the clouds.

Having dreams and ambitions means that your head is in the clouds? Okay, sorry, i'll go and live my pathetic worthless life working for someone else in the office and will continue to hate myself everyday instead of actually doing something that I like and have always dreamed about. Sorry, I'm an idiot.

verycool

masterson1 wrote: »

Having dreams and ambitions means that your head is in the clouds? Okay, sorry, i'll go and live my pathetic worthless life working for someone else in the office and will continue to hate myself everyday instead of actually doing something that I like and have always dreamed about. Sorry, I'm an idiot.

I thought you were an Irish?

EDIT: Dammit... missed an obvious Green Day reference.

masterson1

Omackeral wrote: »

America is the last place you want to go if healthcare is top of your wish list.

It isn't, I acknowledge that problem but I've said that Ireland also has problems with healthcare.

Somedaythefire

masterson1 wrote: »

Having dreams and ambitions means that your head is in the clouds? Okay, sorry, i'll go and live my pathetic worthless life working for someone else in the office and will continue to hate myself everyday instead of actually doing something that I like and have always dreamed about. Sorry, I'm an idiot.

You can study astrophysics in Ireland, you know? Study, get your qualifications, then maybe think about America. Although if you think Ireland has problems with healthcare, you don't really know much about America. It seems you don't want to live in the actual country, but an idealised version of it.

Cienciano

Just gonna open another kinder egg, put some money on the world cup quarter finals and light up a cuban cigar. Enjoy your freedom op

Arrival

Why can't you move there? Study something like computer science, get some experience here and get into a multinational and then relocate, they'll look after everything. Plenty of Irish and European people have done it. You just don't want it as much as you think you do, otherwise you wouldn't be making this thread, you'd actually be already working towards the goal

masterson1

Somedaythefire wrote: »

You can study astrophysics in Ireland, you know? Study, get your qualifications, then maybe think about America. Although if you think Ireland has problems with healthcare, you don't really know much about America. It seems you don't want to like in the actual country, but an idealised version of it.

It's not, I am studying information technology in university and that is what I would like to work as. I am thinking if getting a job in Ireland would get me in other countries if I work in one of the IT companies in here.

relax carry on

God, tell me I want like this at 22. I probably was.

OP, travel a bit and live and work in a few countrys for a few years before deciding on where you wish to end up. You are still in university and unless there's some mad back story missing here, you haven't come to appreciate how blessed you are to live in a stable functioning state.

Omackeral

One thing I'll say is fair play to the OP for knowing there are 50 states and not 52. Amount of fcukbags that think that is surreal. 50 is a memorable rounded off number. 50 stars for 50 states. God I hate people.

Sophia S.

Always greener on the other side. That being said, if you want to immigrate to the U.S. it's totally possible. It might take some time, but you can totally make it happen. And if you do, you will have an amazing sense of accomplishment.

btw, today is their independence day.

Happy Birthday America!

masterson1

Arrival wrote: »

Why can't you move there? Study something like computer science, get some experience here and get into a multinational and then relocate, they'll look after everything. Plenty of Irish and European people have done it. You just don't want it as much as you think you do, otherwise you wouldn't be making this thread, you'd actually be already working towards the goal

I'm in my 3rd year of university course in computer science. Thank you for the suggestion, I feel a bit more motivated now.

Somedaythefire

masterson1 wrote: »

It's not, I am studying information technology in university and that is what I would like to work as. I am thinking if getting a job in Ireland would get me in other countries if I work in one of the IT companies in here.

Then do that. Get a job at a company either based out of the US, or with offices there. Work your bollocks off and get them to sponsor you to go to America. I know a couple of people that did it, then you can come back on here and complain about the lack of holidays, how expensive healthcare is and all that good stuff.

anthonyos

masterson1 wrote: »

I'm in my 3rd year of university course in computer science. Thank you for the suggestion, I feel a bit more motivated now.

have you ever been to the USA and if so where

wakka12

I would agree that you could live life 'fuller' in america, many of the greatest sights in the world are there, but those lifestyles belong to a relatively small number of americans, the average american has lower quality of life than most irish people.
And well yeh their mcmansions are huge but why do you want to live in one? I like the modest size irish homes, no need for bigger homes, they waste so much money and damage the environment heating and lighting their obscenely large plastic abodes and have to use cars to get around because no public transport can service their horrible endless urban sprawl

As for weather, how is rain ****ter than tornadoes or forest fires or earthquakes? Think you need a bit of reality check, I know you'll say Im being dramatic but be grateful that you live in a very fair and equal and lawful society rather than the many dangerous **** holes which make up the majority of the world
People and their families die trying to get to countries like ireland..and you're complaining about some hypothetically wasted opportunity about possibly not living life to the fullest

Losty Dublin

Mutant z wrote: »

Health care is much harder to access in the USA especially if you dont have health insurance thats a huge disadvantage there as bad as things are here at least patients arnt literally turned away at the dòor as they are in the USA because they cant health care and are uninsured.

My ex is an American. Last year her Dad was undergoing a second round of Chemo treatment for cancer that lasted for six weeks, with his medics a six week recovery afterwards. His employers generously gave him unpaid leave for the treatment but wanted him back after he came back from the treatment. He had to go back to work at the threat of losing his job, lasted about two weeks and was curtly let go when he told them that he needed more time off.

By the way, he worked for a hospital group so it's not as if they didn't know better.

verycool

"Wherever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Banzai

masterson1

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Then do that. Get a job at a company either based out of the US, or with offices there. Work your bollocks off and get them to sponsor you to go to America. I know a couple of people that did it, then you can come back on here and complain about the lack of holidays, how expensive healthcare is and all that good stuff.

I guess I would have to experience it to understand it. It would still be my dream to live there.

Somedaythefire

Losty Dublin wrote: »

My ex is an American. Last year her Dad was undergoing a second round of Chemo treatment for cancer that lasted for six weeks, with his medics a six week recovery afterwards. His employers generously gave him unpaid leave for the treatment but wanted him back after he came back from the treatment. He had to go back to work at the threat of losing his job, lasted about two weeks and was curtly let go when he told them that he needed more time off.

By the way, he worked for a hospital group so it's not as if they didn't know better.

Yeah, a lot of states have at will employment and can fire you without a reason. If they were sponsoring you there, you would be up ****s creek if they did it.

masterson1

anthonyos wrote: »

have you ever been to the USA and if so where

I've been to New York and New Jersey but only for 3 weeks in total.

Somedaythefire

masterson1 wrote: »

I guess I would have to experience it to understand it. It would still be my dream to live there.

You're in college, go on a J1