Luas Cross City Launch Discussion

Idbatterim wrote: »

the system is always in chaos, its also rubbish!

I couldn't agree with the word: always. I commuted on the green line from St. Stephens Green to Sandyford for 4.5 years and in all that time, I was inconvenienced exactly three times. Two were technical problems and the third was a very unlucky fox. Every other trip was on time. The real time displays worked. The drivers were courteous if there was a delay. It's exactly what I wanted. I'm hopeful that the current problems will be resolved and it will go back to that level of service again.

markpb wrote: »

I couldn't agree with the word: always. I commuted on the green line from St. Stephens Green to Sandyford for 4.5 years and in all that time, I was inconvenienced exactly three times. Two were technical problems and the third was a very unlucky fox. Every other trip was on time. The real time displays worked. The drivers were courteous if there was a delay. It's exactly what I wanted. I'm hopeful that the current problems will be resolved and it will go back to that level of service again.

This is very much the nub of the issue...how,after 7 years of planning,construction and the spending of c.€ 500,000,000,both Bus & Tram systems in the City Centre area have now substantially DISimproved.

It is far from nitpicking,for those who have been regular customers of both services to enquire as to where the responsbility lies and whether any of those responsible have been sanctioned or disciplined.

Allowing those responsible for this situation to simply walk away,shrugging their shoulders,will encourage more of this nonsense.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Substantially disimproved for buses too. So I'm not happy either.

But I live in hope, and surely it will have to improve soon.

Some things need time to bed down. Not pleasant for anyone. But it cannot go on like this for much longer can it.

There is nothing no the horizon that will fix this. Buses will be rerouted down streets that don't have the capacity and will see journey times increase, and extra LUAS will be run through the city centre. Politicians seem unwilling to take on the taxi lobby, and they are afraid of being sued by a small number of carpark owners.

Unless they are willing to do something about the carpark owners, and the taxis, there is nothing on the horizon which will fix this, other than perhaps a metro in 20 years. The city is now choked - we already see businesses leaving the UK due to Brexit deciding against Dublin because of transport & housing issues.

errlloyd wrote: »

I saw tram number 3006 at Harcourt there a minute ago. I thought the 30XX trams were all red line? Have some been moved to the green line to increase capacity?

They is a few on the Green for a few more months.

could they not do what many of what you proposed? turn back at SSG and just use shorter trams that actually cross the city?

fritzelly wrote: »

That explains it then, much slower. Back to 10 mins waiting on the College Green to go round the corner

Overall freq has not adjusted much but number of trams only up slightly. As I posted earlier, they have reversed all traffic lights changes and even trams are taking longer than they were a few weels ago.

How many years overdue is the DCC traffic management plan at this stage? We were supposed to have a car free college green and car free quays long before LCC was completed, no?

Also is there any observance at all of the taxi ban? I often see regular cars going through college green in the morning rush and all. Not a drop of enforcement to be had.

Pelvis wrote: »

Because, quite frankly, that's retarded.

People already have to get off the tram to switch between the two lines as well as those on a Parnell bound tram wanting to get to Broombridge. Forcing EVERYONE off a long tram at SSG and onto smaller tram just to cross the CC? How would that work at peak times?

they would just wait for a shorter tram, they wouldnt have to change...

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Yup. My bus has been a mare all week going down the quays and across.
Only just getting used to having primary schools off, delighted with my commute and then this.
The city is fupped.

The City is'nt fcukkd at all...however,it's administrative arrangements are in the firm grasp of a coterie of Total Incompetents.

Not a single one of this crew has managed to proactively assist a single Public Transport user since BXD commenced.

They continue to flounder around,emmiting the occasional hiss and burp,whilst ensuring that NO operational issue is actually addressed,except perhaps the excruciating one of what to do with the Large Gantry Pole at the Grafton St/Suffolk St junction...y'know...the one where the floppy poles require replacing every day..... :rolleyes:

As for the Bus Service,it appears that "officially" everything is just grand...with only a few moany Busdrivers and Passengers disturbing the serene calm.
ALL Traffic,other than Bus & Tram needs to be prohibited 24/7 from the College Green Southbound axis.
This Ban requires constant automated electronic enforcement,with a €250 "fee" payable by those wishing to ignore it..forget about Gardai,as this entity has long since left the field of Traffic Law enforcement in the City Centre.

The numbers of empty Taxi's now queuing,simply cannot be accomodated,IF one wishes to operate Bus & Tram effectively.
There is no problem having these Taxi's,just as Long as the Totally Incompetent Administrators are prepared to openly accept that Bus & Tram will have NO priority along the sector...That is all that is required...Honesty & Clarity.

It is highly likely that none of the current group of administrators understand those terms,let alone be prepared to publicly support them.

AlekSmart wrote: »

Interesting observation,because there was a VERY disgruntled looking Garda posted at the old Toilet,who was patiently attempting to explain the BIG Electronic Signs,to a succession of Taxidrivers,many of whom appeared to have only arrived in the city this morning.

The entire explaining process simply causes even more disruption...when the easy answer is simply,note the Roof Sign Number and send them a €200 Bill for Lack of Observation.

I feel your pain Sierra Oscar.....:(

Better yet have the Garda the other side of the junction and fine them as they come thru - that'll stop em short thrift

Unfortunately in Ireland traffic enforcement cameras are completely controlled and constructed by the gardai. The DCC told me it wasn't under there remit to facilitate, plan, construct or control them and it would fully have to come from the gardai. With the state of the guards I think we'll be waiting a while before we see any actual technological enforcement for bus lanes or luas junctions.