DCM 2018 - Mentored Novice Thread

Rossi7 · 26-06-2018 09:53AM

I've the 235, ticks all the boxes for me and is nice and light on the list
After hiking around Glendalough yesterday, I'll be starting the boards plan today. Best of luck to everyone and a big thanks to the guys taking us under their wings, I shall have 3 ice cold alcoholic beverages waiting for you's at the finish line

gypsylee · 26-06-2018 09:58AM

Had a tough session at the physio last night. She worked hard on the IT band and glutes. Painful stuff. I have bruises this morning! Feels so much better now though. I got the green light to start back running next week. Have to really focus on strengthening exercises so will work hard on those. Can't wait to get on the road but will be taking it very very easy for a few weeks. Time is irrelevant to me now, doing the training plan without any more injury is my goal.

eyrie · 26-06-2018 10:00AM

aloooof wrote: »

Is it just me or is it pretty draining running in this heat?! The pace probably didn't help as well tho...

Definitely not just you! :eek: What a time for a random heatwave to hit. I think I'll be trying to become more of a morning person and get as many of the runs in early as possible.

Very exciting to be at this stage now, hope the first week goes well for everyone!

julie2tubz · 26-06-2018 10:05AM

gypsylee wrote: »

Had a tough session at the physio last night. She worked hard on the IT band and glutes. Painful stuff. I have bruises this morning! Feels so much better now though. I got the green light to start back running next week. Have to really focus on strengthening exercises so will work hard on those. Can't wait to get on the road but will be taking it very very easy for a few weeks. Time is irrelevant to me now, doing the training plan without any more injury is my goal.

Gypsy Lee I suffer terribly with ITB syndrome. There is nothing more satisfying than the day after it being worked out by physio! like walking on air for a few weeks after. mine creeps back every so often now when i dont look after it but i think strength is my only hope at keeping it at bay. Also sitting at a desk really doesnt help for me - weakens the old glutes. But great you have that done now!!

Griff75 · 26-06-2018 10:11AM

Brief race report from the Irish Runner 5 Mike for anyone interested! I’ve been sick on and off since the end of April and had just finished a third course of antibiotics 2 weeks ago so this run was never going to be threatening a PB. I’d done Raheby in January in 37.24 but winter running suits me better too.

I made the mistake of running the Terenure 5 mile the day I finished the first course of antibiotics and took off at 37 min pace. Paid the price for the last 2 miles, crawled home ahead of the 40 minute pacer and my early rate had hit 200 by the finish and was at 179 average for the race. Ended up sick again a couple of days later and I think the effort certainly didn’t help.

So this time around I had followed advice here to ease myself back in very gently and decided to just run the 5 miler at a good pace but not flat out. Took off a little behind the 40 minute pacers not with the goal of passing them but decided to stick with 5 min km (yes I know the race is in miles...). Km 1-5 were all pretty much on the money between 4.55-5.02. Slowed a little around the furry glen and managed to pick it up again then so finished at 40.49 but more importantly from my perspective I felt good after, HR didn’t go through the roof and was 168 average (at least I think that’s ok) and have successfully started the boards plan this week.

Have a local 10k race this Saturday which I’ll supplement to hit the long run mileage. I’m going to aim for sub 50 although the heat may be a factor too.

TL DR - it’s good to be back haha

Kellygirl · 26-06-2018 10:22AM

eyrie wrote: »

aloooof wrote: »

Is it just me or is it pretty draining running in this heat?! The pace probably didn't help as well tho...

Definitely not just you! :eek: What a time for a random heatwave to hit. I think I'll be trying to become more of a morning person and get as many of the runs in early as possible.

Very exciting to be at this stage now, hope the first week goes well for everyone!

In the other hand training in the heat will make it easier when it does cool down. Worth going a bit slower and taking it easier and stay hydrated.

gypsylee · 26-06-2018 10:36AM

julie2tubz wrote: »

Gypsy Lee I suffer terribly with ITB syndrome. There is nothing more satisfying than the day after it being worked out by physio! like walking on air for a few weeks after. mine creeps back every so often now when i dont look after it but i think strength is my only hope at keeping it at bay. Also sitting at a desk really doesnt help for me - weakens the old glutes. But great you have that done now!!

Sorry to hear you suffer too. I am at a desk all day too so that probably doesn't help either. Here's to pain free training for us both!

aloooof · 26-06-2018 11:47AM

Rossi7 wrote: »

Best of luck to everyone and a big thanks to the guys taking us under their wings

I'll second this, I'm only starting the plan today and I've already gotten a load of advice!

Dealerz2.0 · 26-06-2018 12:00PM

Kellygirl wrote: »

I know that anybody who has the 235 loves it. Great for setting up workouts too which is very handy. I think the FR 35 also transmits via Bluetooth if you want a simpler watch. There can be really good deals on a amazon so watch out for them. Sports Direct too the odd time.

yep, 235 is a great watch!

coogy · 26-06-2018 12:01PM

I have done all of my runs on my own since I started running seriously last November but after last weekend's long run, I'm starting to feel like I would definitely benefit with at least one running partner so I need to the on the case.

Interested to hear about everyone's preference when it comes to the long runs. Do you run solo or do you have a running partner?

eyrie · 26-06-2018 12:19PM

Hobbyjogger wrote: »

JJ Reddy in Danesfort, Kilkenny might be an option for you. It's a well run race, tough but fair course similar to dublins half, great prep for DCM. 16th September

Thanks Hobbyjogger! Hmm the date and location of this both suit fairly well, but having just had a look at the course on the website it looks pretty brutal! Though I'm bad at understanding elevation profiles... Have you run it yourself? I did the Rock n' Roll half last year which is hilly but this looks a lot hillier!

eyrie · 26-06-2018 12:22PM

coogy wrote: »

I have done all of my runs on my own since I started running seriously last November but after last weekend's long run, I'm starting to feel like I would definitely benefit with at least one running partner so I need to the on the case.

Interested to hear about everyone's preference when it comes to the long runs. Do you run solo or do you have a running partner?

I do all mine solo too. It's been fine so far and I like the headspace but I think it would be nice to have company at least the odd time as they got longer. Unfortunately none of my friends run! And for me personally I run my long runs pretty slowly so it wouldn't suit many people. You probably won't have that problem though!

coogy · 26-06-2018 12:24PM

eyrie wrote: »

I do all mine solo too. It's been fine so far and I like the headspace but I think it would be nice to have company at least the odd time as they got longer. Unfortunately none of my friends run! And for me personally I run my long runs pretty slowly so it wouldn't suit many people. You probably won't have that problem though!

Yeah, I do like the headspace too but am looking ahead to the 16/18/20 mile runs and I'm struggling with the idea of doing them solo.

Hopefully between now and then, I'll have something arranged!!

Kellygirl · 26-06-2018 12:39PM

coogy wrote: »

eyrie wrote: »

I do all mine solo too. It's been fine so far and I like the headspace but I think it would be nice to have company at least the odd time as they got longer. Unfortunately none of my friends run! And for me personally I run my long runs pretty slowly so it wouldn't suit many people. You probably won't have that problem though!

Yeah, I do like the headspace too but am looking ahead to the 16/18/20 mile runs and I'm struggling with the idea of doing them solo.

Hopefully between now and then, I'll have something arranged!!

I’ve never really had company but I like the headspace and I like listening to the radio or a podcast of one of the talk shows depending on time. I never get to do that day to day. Sometimes with long runs too I’m conscious of doing them at my own pace so don’t necessarily want company. Having said that I did 12 miles recently with somebody and loved it but our paces matched. Last year a friend used do the last 8/10/12km with me and that worked really well. I’d work out my route and pace to ensure I was at a particular point to meet her and then we’d head off together. Worked for both of us.

Mr. Guappa · 26-06-2018 12:59PM

coogy wrote: »

I have done all of my runs on my own since I started running seriously last November but after last weekend's long run, I'm starting to feel like I would definitely benefit with at least one running partner so I need to the on the case.

Interested to hear about everyone's preference when it comes to the long runs. Do you run solo or do you have a running partner?

I would have always run solo but I've done my last 4 LSR's with a partner. It definitely helps the time pass and makes the run easier. That said, I also "enjoy" the grind of a long run by myself.

There is the Boston Scientific half marathon in Clonmel on the 26th August, may suit some.

I have a Forerunner 235. Love it. Had a Forerunner 10 prior to that. It was basic but done the job.

Aoifemcc19 · 26-06-2018 01:15PM

I've been following your boards thread for the last few weeks but have been holding off posting as I'm really not sure I have this marathon gig actually in me (my husband signed me up!!) but I think I need to commit at this point. Anyway here is my info, I think most people's profiles I've read so far are a lot faster than me as I'm a complete plodder.

Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
ALLERGIC to races so it's been a few years since I did 5/10kms PBs are roughly 25.38 for 5km and 55.56 for 10km. I did the Bohermeen half marathon at the start of March this year in 2.06.

Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No

How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
I'm currently only running 3 times a week but hope to up it to 4 once schools out. I also do PT in the gym twice a week and pilates twice a week. My three runs include one running class which is nearly always intervals at the moment (yesterday was 800mx5 at 5min km pace), my other two runs have been steadily increasing over the last 5/6 weeks since I was signed up to DCM. Last weeks runs were 7miles & 13 miles (average pace at the moment is 6.40 per KM for our long run which we debate weekly if it is too fast)

What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
I ran the half this year with a calf injury I had picked up over Christmas so the training was a bit hit and miss and I had loads of physio to get me over the line so I really just want to complete the marathon in October under 5 hours if possible. 4.40 would be second tier hope

How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
I'm running with a friend and we have been loosely following HH marathon 3 plan as we only could manage 3 runs a week but now that its last week of school we are reading up on all plans available to us to come up with something to follow over the summer

What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
Getting injured

Why are you running this marathon?
It was run it or divorce the hubby!!

Huzzah! · 26-06-2018 01:34PM

Aoifemcc19 wrote: »

I've been following your boards thread for the last few weeks but have been holding off posting as I'm really not sure I have this marathon gig actually in me (my husband signed me up!!) but I think I need to commit at this point. Anyway here is my info, I think most people's profiles I've read so far are a lot faster than me as I'm a complete plodder.

Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
ALLERGIC to races so it's been a few years since I did 5/10kms PBs are roughly 25.38 for 5km and 55.56 for 10km. I did the Bohermeen half marathon at the start of March this year in 2.06.

I'm more of an "affiliate" member of this thread as although I'm a novice, I'm doing Berlin as my first rather than Dublin, but you're faster than me, if it helps

Anyway, you've come to the right place for help and advice. Good luck with the training.

RayCun · 26-06-2018 01:36PM

coogy wrote: »

I have done all of my runs on my own since I started running seriously last November but after last weekend's long run, I'm starting to feel like I would definitely benefit with at least one running partner so I need to the on the case.

Interested to hear about everyone's preference when it comes to the long runs. Do you run solo or do you have a running partner?

For those in or near Dublin, the novices often arrange to meet up for a few long runs in Phoenix Park.

Wherever you are based, if you get in touch with your local running clubs, they will often have group long runs in the build up to the marathon.

(If you are near Knocklyon, Brothers Pearse meet behind Knocklyon shopping centre at 9am on Sunday for long runs. Different pace groups and different distances, people meet up and sort themselves out)

ReeReeG · 26-06-2018 02:07PM

coogy wrote: »

I have done all of my runs on my own since I started running seriously last November but after last weekend's long run, I'm starting to feel like I would definitely benefit with at least one running partner so I need to the on the case.

Interested to hear about everyone's preference when it comes to the long runs. Do you run solo or do you have a running partner?

I'm with a club, so I end up mixing it up a little; sometimes all on my own, sometimes all with a gang from the club, and sometimes half and half! In theory, its easier to police your LSR pace on your own, but if you tend to be a renegade like myself from time to time, it's good to run with people so you can call each other out for picking up the pace. If there's a club near you, I would definitely recommend, even just to have the option on weekends.

gypsylee · 26-06-2018 02:12PM

Aoifemcc19 wrote: »

I've been following your boards thread for the last few weeks but have been holding off posting as I'm really not sure I have this marathon gig actually in me (my husband signed me up!!) but I think I need to commit at this point. Anyway here is my info, I think most people's profiles I've read so far are a lot faster than me as I'm a complete plodder.

Welcome. I hold the title of being the thread plodder so you definitely are not the slowest here Good luck with your training.

skyblue46 · 26-06-2018 02:20PM

Aoifemcc19 wrote: »

I've been following your boards thread for the last few weeks but have been holding off posting as I'm really not sure I have this marathon gig actually in me (my husband signed me up!!) but I think I need to commit at this point. Anyway here is my info, I think most people's profiles I've read so far are a lot faster than me as I'm a complete plodder.

Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
ALLERGIC to races so it's been a few years since I did 5/10kms PBs are roughly 25.38 for 5km and 55.56 for 10km. I did the Bohermeen half marathon at the start of March this year in 2.06.

Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No

How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
I'm currently only running 3 times a week but hope to up it to 4 once schools out. I also do PT in the gym twice a week and pilates twice a week. My three runs include one running class which is nearly always intervals at the moment (yesterday was 800mx5 at 5min km pace), my other two runs have been steadily increasing over the last 5/6 weeks since I was signed up to DCM. Last weeks runs were 7miles & 13 miles (average pace at the moment is 6.40 per KM for our long run which we debate weekly if it is too fast)

What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
I ran the half this year with a calf injury I had picked up over Christmas so the training was a bit hit and miss and I had loads of physio to get me over the line so I really just want to complete the marathon in October under 5 hours if possible. 4.40 would be second tier hope

How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
I'm running with a friend and we have been loosely following HH marathon 3 plan as we only could manage 3 runs a week but now that its last week of school we are reading up on all plans available to us to come up with something to follow over the summer

What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
Getting injured

Why are you running this marathon?
It was run it or divorce the hubby!!

Hello and welcome. I have to say I think you're doing yourself a major disservice. Your training to date looks ideal and a time of 4:40 is very realistic, perhaps even a little conservative. I think you'd be well able for the Boards plan with a bit of tweaking to do it in 4 days. Keep posting and see how it goes.

skyblue46 · 26-06-2018 02:25PM

RayCun wrote: »

For those in or near Dublin, the novices often arrange to meet up for a few long runs in Phoenix Park.

Wherever you are based, if you get in touch with your local running clubs, they will often have group long runs in the build up to the marathon.

(If you are near Knocklyon, Brothers Pearse meet behind Knocklyon shopping centre at 9am on Sunday for long runs. Different pace groups and different distances, people meet up and sort themselves out)

As Ray says it has been a practice to have a few meet ups. Last year we only had one due to the proliferation of our rural brethren in our novices group :pac: As the only Dublin representative on the mentoring crew I do intend to organise a couple of group runs as soon as the long runs are of a slightly longer variety than the first few weeks. Don't worry I'll give ye plenty of notice. The only certainty is that it will be in the Phoenix Park.

Rossi7 · 26-06-2018 02:30PM

Good stuff Skyblue46, I'll be a willing participant. My plan for the LSR's is to cover the DCM course over a few weeks to know exactly what I'm letting myself in for profile wise

Misky · 26-06-2018 03:07PM

I have been lurking here for a while since my friend and running buddy "Aoifemcc19" persuaded me to sign up for the marathon. Now that I have finally admitted to myself and others that there is a chance I might get there here is my info

Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs?

A couple of years since I raced as I don't enjoy them. 5k PB 24.35, 10k PB c 54.30, 2 half marathons at c 2.02. Swore Id never to another after trying to do sub 2 hours on both but did the Bohermeen this year at 2.06 and actually enjoyed it.

Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?

No

How much training do you do currently?

Same as Aoifemcc19 except I don't do Pilates

What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete in no specificied time?

Hopeful that we would complete in under 5 hours but would be really happy to do sub 4.40

How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?

Same as Aoifemcc19

What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any) in signing up?

Hitting a wall during the actual marathon

Why are you running this marathon?

Initially because I was persuaded to but mainly to have something to focus on during the summer when I tend to get a bit lazy

coogy · 26-06-2018 03:22PM

skyblue46 wrote: »

As Ray says it has been a practice to have a few meet ups. Last year we only had one due to the proliferation of our rural brethren in our novices group :pac: As the only Dublin representative on the mentoring crew I do intend to organise a couple of group runs as soon as the long runs are of a slightly longer variety than the first few weeks. Don't worry I'll give ye plenty of notice. The only certainty is that it will be in the Phoenix Park.

Thanks for that, look forward to it!!

aloooof · 26-06-2018 03:42PM

Rossi7 wrote: »

Good stuff Skyblue46, I'll be a willing participant. My plan for the LSR's is to cover the DCM course over a few weeks to know exactly what I'm letting myself in for profile wise

I'll jump in on that as well, if the pace won't be too hectic for me.

I've managed to run a bit of the course already, like from the quays up to Castleknock. There's a decent incline all the way there, so I'm definitely keen to familiarise myself other parts of the course as well.

gypsylee · 26-06-2018 03:48PM

aloooof wrote: »

I've managed to run a bit of the course already, like from the quays up to Castleknock. There's a decent incline all the way there, so I'm definitely keen to familiarise myself other parts of the course as well.

I am so jealous of you all being near enough to the course to be able to run some of it. I will not have a clue of where I am running through in October though maybe ignorance is bliss!

Kellygirl · 26-06-2018 03:59PM

gypsylee wrote: »

aloooof wrote: »

I've managed to run a bit of the course already, like from the quays up to Castleknock. There's a decent incline all the way there, so I'm definitely keen to familiarise myself other parts of the course as well.

I am so jealous of you all being near enough to the course to be able to run some of it. I will not have a clue of where I am running through in October though maybe ignorance is bliss!

Being from the real capitol I didn’t have a clue of the course but we were so well prepped in it by our mentor last year that it didn’t matter and there was a level of ignorance is bliss too. We’ll have you all well prepped here too.

aloooof · 26-06-2018 04:02PM

gypsylee wrote: »

I am so jealous of you all being near enough to the course to be able to run some of it. I will not have a clue of where I am running through in October though maybe ignorance is bliss!

I ran a half-marathon a month go without knowing the route and ran a PB. Equally, I've ran my home half-marathon before (training only 2-3 days a week) and faded badly.

I guess it comes down to being well prepared, so once you've put the training in, you'll be well able for whatever comes your way on the day!

skyblue46 · 26-06-2018 04:12PM

aloooof wrote: »

I'll jump in on that as well, if the pace won't be too hectic for me.

I've managed to run a bit of the course already, like from the quays up to Castleknock. There's a decent incline all the way there, so I'm definitely keen to familiarise myself other parts of the course as well.

Depending on numbers there will be different paces. No need for the pace to be too hot for anyone. Regarding the course and running it, it's far too early to be worrying about that. We'll have ye well ready to set about the course in the most sensible way.

DCM 2018 - Mentored Novice Thread

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