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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭plodder


    No need for that to have happened. All he had to do was ease off the gas a bit on approaching the stop and you'd have been clear and him pulled in at the cost of what 5 seconds?
    Exactly. I look at a lot of these videos and with heavy traffic coming from all directions, sometimes they are down to mistakes made, or fifty/fifty situations rather than badness, but that was just ignorant. There was little or no other traffic around. They wouldn't do that to a car. So, why do it to a bike?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,265 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    plodder wrote: »
    Exactly. I look at a lot of these videos and with heavy traffic coming from all directions, sometimes they are down to mistakes made, or fifty/fifty situations rather than badness, but that was just ignorant. There was little or no other traffic around. They wouldn't do that to a car. So, why do it to a bike?

    I had a similar altercation with a bus on the rock road inbound that ended with all the emergency cut outs being triggered on the bus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 cpl593h


    First time poster here. Had a minor altercation on the Memorial Bridge this morning. I was cycling in the third lane from the left turning on to George's Quay (there are four lanes there; first two go left, third goes straight/right and fourth right only). I was ahead of all traffic and there were no cars in front of me. Just as I was about to turn right, a car came up behind me, drove past and stopped at the traffic light. I wasn't going fast as I'd seen the red light ahead and had the time to brake so no big deal (annoying and unnecessary though). I looked at the driver which must have set her off. She went "What are you looking at?". I asked her why she couldn't have just waited a few seconds to see whether I was going straight or right, and she told me I was responsible for my own safety and that I should be using a cycle lane (none on that bridge that would allow cyclists to turn right on to George's Quay). There was no point in getting into a shouting match and she didn't seem like she could be reasoned with anyway. Has anyone else had problems on that bridge and what's the best way to turn right on to George's Quay from there? Is it best to take the right-most lane from the beginning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,475 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Had one yesterday evening. Was approaching a red light at a fairly large junction with another cyclist in front of me. The junction is 4 way cross-roads, light controlled, with 2 lanes coming on and off at most exits. The road I was on also a slip road to allow cars turn left when safe to do so.
    So myself and the guy in front were approaching the junction in our cycle lane, preparing to stop at the red light. Next thing a car comes flying up passed me, tries to turn left (which would have severely cut me off), spots the guy in front of me, jams on the breaks and leans on the horn. Queue some shouting from him about how it was our fault and we should have been going left on the slip road too for some reason. How he rationalized that to himself I've no idea because we were literally in a bike lane going straight ahead (lane also splits to the left IF you want to go that way). Tosser. Time to get the GoPro out again. Commercial vehicle too with his business name all over the side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭JazzyJ


    cpl593h wrote: »
    First time poster here. Had a minor altercation on the Memorial Bridge this morning. I was cycling in the third lane from the left turning on to George's Quay (there are four lanes there; first two go left, third goes straight/right and fourth right only). I was ahead of all traffic and there were no cars in front of me. Just as I was about to turn right, a car came up behind me, drove past and stopped at the traffic light. I wasn't going fast as I'd seen the red light ahead and had the time to brake so no big deal (annoying and unnecessary though). I looked at the driver which must have set her off. She went "What are you looking at?". I asked her why she couldn't have just waited a few seconds to see whether I was going straight or right, and she told me I was responsible for my own safety and that I should be using a cycle lane (none on that bridge that would allow cyclists to turn right on to George's Quay). There was no point in getting into a shouting match and she didn't seem like she could be reasoned with anyway. Has anyone else had problems on that bridge and what's the best way to turn right on to George's Quay from there? Is it best to take the right-most lane from the beginning?

    If you take the right lane - you'll be stuck in the right lane once you go on to the quays.

    I'd take the lane completely and signal early - force drivers to either pass you in one of the other lanes. If you don't you leave yourself open to cars going straight passing you when you're going right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭p15574


    JazzyJ wrote: »
    If you take the right lane - you'll be stuck in the right lane once you go on to the quays.

    I'd take the lane completely and signal early - force drivers to either pass you in one of the other lanes. If you don't you leave yourself open to cars going straight passing you when you're going right.

    I'd stay in the third lane and indicate right early enough, possibly taking the lane alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    CramCycle wrote: »
    …but no, you pulling out in front of me is entirely my fault.

    You have that power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    I had a bad one this morning. Approaching Howth summit from the Sutton side, rounding a bend slowly ~20km/h or so at a guess and I was almost clipped by a woman in a Nissan jeepy thing with the kids in back. She attempted the overtake with oncoming traffic and swerved in on me in the process. I don't think my rear camera was working, and I'll have to see the status of the front. Scary stuff, but it was so unexpected and it was over quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Emergency services and what seemed to be a bicycle crushed underneath the front of a 52 seater bus on the North Quays this evening. An ambulance was leaving upon arrival. Several close passes afterwards, as well as being tailgated and roared at for moving off too slowly at lights!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,719 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Emergency services and what seemed to be a bicycle crushed underneath the front of a 52 seater bus on the North Quays this evening. An ambulance was leaving upon arrival.

    Somewhere around here?

    https://twitter.com/Cianmm/status/1010085882152529921


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Yes, on the bridge to the right heading toward Liberty Hall from the south quays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭twinsen


    Yesterday morning. Only missed me because I hit the windows twice really hard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,399 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭VW 1


    That blood on the ground as well doesn't look good, hopefully the cyclist didnt sustain injuries that will last too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,719 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What coach company is that?
    http://linburg.co.uk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    twinsen wrote: »
    Yesterday morning. Only missed me because I hit the windows twice really hard.
    **** that! Don't go up the inside of a large vehicle like that, there be dragons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    **** that! Don't go up the inside of a large vehicle like that, there be dragons.

    Totally agree. I know the bus stops on my route and would never go up the inside of bus knowing I'm approaching a bus stop.

    It looks like here that bus was not pulling into a bus stop at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭twinsen


    micar wrote: »
    Totally agree. I know the bus stops on my route and would never go up the inside of bus knowing I'm approaching a bus stop.

    It look that bus was not pulling into a bus stop at all.


    I was just cycling in the "cycle" lane, which he shouldn't cross, also started turning and indicating while I was in the middle of the bus, never checked the mirror. He knew he f*cked up as he apologised when I got to the front.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    twinsen wrote: »
    I was just cycling in the "cycle" lane, which he shouldn't cross, also started turning and indicating while I was in the middle of the bus, never checked the mirror. He knew he f*cked up as he apologised when I got to the front.

    You both ****ed up. But only one of you risked your own life.


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    twinsen wrote: »
    I was just cycling in the "cycle" lane, which he shouldn't cross, also started turning and indicating while I was in the middle of the bus, never checked the mirror. He knew he f*cked up as he apologised when I got to the front.

    As often said here no point being in the right and dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    twinsen wrote: »
    I was just cycling in the "cycle" lane, which he shouldn't cross, also started turning and indicating while I was in the middle of the bus, never checked the mirror. He knew he f*cked up as he apologised when I got to the front.

    Your roadcraft is useless bud. Use this as a learning experience. Thats a move I'd expect from a Dublin Bike newbie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    twinsen wrote: »
    I was just cycling in the "cycle" lane, which he shouldn't cross, also started turning and indicating while I was in the middle of the bus, never checked the mirror. He knew he f*cked up as he apologised when I got to the front.
    He had already crossed the cycle track line before you started overtaking on the left. Dangerous move at too fast a speed. If I made such a mistake and realised I would stop dead at that point and let the bus go - continuing to cycle up the left at that stage is suicidal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    twinsen wrote: »
    Yesterday morning. Only missed me because I hit the windows twice really hard.

    I did similar cycling about 12 years ago, first time cycling in town. I never made that mistake again... Never pass large vehicles on the left, overtake them properly on the outside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭Idleater


    mloc123 wrote: »
    ... Never pass large vehicles on the left, overtake them properly on the outside.

    +1

    I know I mentioned it before but I was at one of the Dublin bus "awareness initives" where you can sit in the driver's seat. Where the cyclist was is completely blind to the driver. That and that is a very busy stop.

    The funnier variation on the video is sitting downstairs and watching someone run along the bus as the doors close then berating the driver for not waiting. If running for the bus, run along 2m away and they might see you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    White Qashqai illegally pulled into the bus lane approaching Harolds Cross this from Kimmage side. I was well into the left but they still managed to squeeze me.

    I haven't seen a garda pulling cars in the bus lane in there for a while now.

    I politely told them to use their mirrors. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    White Qashqai illegally pulled into the bus lane approaching Harolds Cross this from Kimmage side. I was well into the left but they still managed to squeeze me.

    I haven't seen a garda pulling cars in the bus lane in there for a while now.

    I politely told them to use their mirrors. :D

    If ever there was a place for plastic wands the length of a bus lane, such a sh*tshow of a road from the park to the canal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭gmacww


    If ever there was a place for plastic wands the length of a bus lane, such a sh*tshow of a road from the park to the canal.

    It's not a 24hr bus lane though it's only active from 7am. So up to that point it's fair game for cars so wands are not ideal in that situation. That being said I do cycle that way every day and regardless of the time, yes it's a complete mess. Strangely if I'm in the car I find it faster to get over the bridge if I stay in the right lane. Two many cars in the left/bus lane.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    gmacww wrote: »
    It's not a 24hr bus lane though it's only active from 7am. So up to that point it's fair game for cars so wands are not ideal in that situation. That being said I do cycle that way every day and regardless of the time, yes it's a complete mess. Strangely if I'm in the car I find it faster to get over the bridge if I stay in the right lane. Two many cars in the left/bus lane.

    Can anyone explain the logic of non 24 hour bus lanes? They are bus lanes during rush hour, but outside of peak times, traffic isn't busy enough to warrant their use, so it is a pointless difference. There are parts of the N11 that flit between timed and 24hour, awfully stupid.


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