De-register a car

Easylambda23 · 21-06-2018 12:21PM #1

Hello, I would like to ask you how to de-register a car, for example I bought a car with plates, with tax and nct and I want to de-register the car. Who should I contact? I’ve tried to googled it but it has been unsuccesful, thank you.

21-06-2018 12:22PM

Only an authorised end of life facility can do that I believe.

bazz26 · 21-06-2018 12:33PM

What exactly do you mean by de-register? Do you intend to scrap the car or permanently export it abroad?

miketheDIYman · 21-06-2018 12:36PM

If you decide to scrap it - make sure to get a destruction cert from end of life facility !

Philb76 · 21-06-2018 12:50PM

Do you mean take the car off the road to say store it or is this a wind up ðŸ˜

Easylambda23 · 21-06-2018 08:09PM

I want to export car abroad to my country and then sell it on a parts.

Easylambda23 · 21-06-2018 08:12PM

bazz26 wrote: »

What exactly do you mean by de-register? Do you intend to scrap the car or permanently export it abroad?

Well I want to export the car to my country and then sell it on breaking parts.

CiniO · 21-06-2018 08:34PM

Easylambda23 wrote: »

I want to export car abroad to my country and then sell it on a parts.

Then just do it.
No need or even possibility to deregister it.

Philb76 · 21-06-2018 09:14PM

With all the expense with travel and fuel parts must be worth a few quid

21-06-2018 09:17PM

Philb76 wrote: »

With all the expense with travel and fuel parts must be worth a few quid

Might be doing the trip anyways.

Dia1988 · 21-06-2018 10:04PM

What motor vehicle are we talking about here?

68 lost souls · 21-06-2018 10:33PM

Could be a nice vrt rebate in it

extra-ordinary_ · 21-06-2018 10:36PM

Dia1988 wrote: »

What motor vehicle are we talking about here?

I guess a Toyota heading to Africa.

Easylambda23 · 21-06-2018 10:56PM

CiniO wrote: »

Then just do it.
No need or even possibility to deregister it.

Well, but if it’s de-registered doesn’t it mean that I’ll avoid to paying the VRT? And also the law sais that If I want to export car abroad of the Ireland, the car must have NCT, but what if I want export damaged car unable to drive, what then?

gctest50 · 21-06-2018 11:00PM

Easylambda23 wrote: »

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I’ll avoid to paying the VRT?

The other way around !

The VRT crew will (might) pay you

gctest50 · 21-06-2018 11:01PM

,

https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/guide-to-vrt/export-repayment-scheme/what-is-the-vrt-export-repayment-scheme.aspx

CiniO · 21-06-2018 11:52PM

Easylambda23 wrote: »

Well, but if it’s de-registered doesn’t it mean that I’ll avoid to paying the VRT? And also the law sais that If I want to export car abroad of the Ireland, the car must have NCT, but what if I want export damaged car unable to drive, what then?

OP - I think it will be easiest if you just tell us what kind of car are you looking at exporting, and where are you looking to export it.
And also if you're looking to exporting it by driving it, or having it transported?

That will help us to help you.

Easylambda23 · 22-06-2018 05:24AM

gctest50 wrote: »

The other way around !

The VRT crew will (might) pay you

Well, so I don’t pay for anything if I want to export vehicle? that seems to be too simple, there must be a catch.

Easylambda23 · 22-06-2018 05:37AM

CiniO wrote: »

OP - I think it will be easiest if you just tell us what kind of car are you looking at exporting, and where are you looking to export it.
And also if you're looking to exporting it by driving it, or having it transported?

That will help us to help you.

I am looking for brands like skoda, vw, seat, opel. There is a lot of these in Slovakia and people there are looking for breaking parts. I want them to be transported by someone.

gctest50 · 22-06-2018 05:38AM

Easylambda23 wrote: »

Well, so I don’t pay for anything if I want to export vehicle? that seems to be too simple, there must be a catch.

If your car has a valid NCT, they will pay you

( THE MINIMUM QUALIFYING OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE (OMSP) IS €2000 )

form here :

https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/documents/vrt/form-vrter2.pdf

gctest50 · 22-06-2018 05:46AM

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2010 a4 tdi

dr.fuzzenstein · 22-06-2018 05:49AM

CiniO wrote: »

Then just do it.
No need or even possibility to deregister it.

The absolute puzzlement and bewildered comments on this thread are hilarious.
To the others, in any other European country you can and have to deregister your car if you want to put it off the road or into storage for a while.
In Ireland of course there is no possibility to do that.
There is still a Transit Connect somewhere in Eastern Europe that's got an Irish reg on it, because I could not officially sell it to the guy, I couldn't deregister it, because there are no official Irish scrapyards in Germany and my request to just deregister the damn thing already brought forth nothing but weeks of phonecall with absolutely baffled administrators.
"You want to what your car? Why? You've done what? Huh? I'm sorry, I don't understand, where is the car? Well who did you sell it to? What? You can't do that!"

Best advise I can give you OP is to "sell" the car to it's new owner, Donald Trump who happens to live at your address (and promptly moved out), then all tickets are due to the phantom owner, not you.
Sometimes bureaucracy is set up in a way that there is no honest way out.

Easylambda23 · 22-06-2018 08:45AM

gctest50 wrote: »

If your car has a valid NCT, they will pay you

( THE MINIMUM QUALIFYING OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE (OMSP) IS €2000 )

form here :

https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/documents/vrt/form-vrter2.pdf

Well but I don’t want to reregistrate car anymore I want to sell it on breaking parts and it sais “For vehicles exported to another member State, please attach, where possible, a copy of the Vehicle Registration Certificate and any other official documentation obtained from the country of re-registration. Copies are acceptable”

Nuw · 22-06-2018 09:40AM

Looks to me that you want to break cars and sell the parts to another country. My understanding is that there is two ways to go about this, either you need to scrap it here (effectively de-registering it). To do so you need to register yourself as a scrapper (or find some sort of agreement with an existing one), then break it and sell the parts.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/buying_or_selling_a_vehicle/how_to_dispose_of_an_end_of_life_vehicle.html

Or you export the car to the country you want, register it there and then scrap it (legislation of which will depend on said country) and break it there.

Esel · 22-06-2018 10:16AM

I wonder how many of the cars exported to Africa are 'deregistered'?

Mark74 · 22-06-2018 11:07AM

Easylambda23 wrote: »

Well but I don’t want to reregistrate car anymore I want to sell it on breaking parts and it sais “For vehicles exported to another member State, please attach, where possible, a copy of the Vehicle Registration Certificate and any other official documentation obtained from the country of re-registration. Copies are acceptable”

please attach, where possible, a copy of the Vehicle Registration Certificate

Easylambda23 · 22-06-2018 01:23PM

Nuw wrote: »

Looks to me that you want to break cars and sell the parts to another country. My understanding is that there is two ways to go about this, either you need to scrap it here (effectively de-registering it). To do so you need to register yourself as a scrapper (or find some sort of agreement with an existing one), then break it and sell the parts.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/buying_or_selling_a_vehicle/how_to_dispose_of_an_end_of_life_vehicle.html

Or you export the car to the country you want, register it there and then scrap it (legislation of which will depend on said country) and break it there.

And if I break car here and export parts to my country and the rest of car I’ll scrap here.

bazz26 · 22-06-2018 01:28PM

Assuming these cars are registered to you then you may still need to get a certificate of destruction from the breaker's yard for the shell you give them.

CiniO · 22-06-2018 02:40PM

Lots of different opinions on this thread, many contradicting each other.
But lets look at few facts.

1. While I'm not sure about legal requirements in relation to properly utilising end of life vehicles at registered scrapping/dismantling facilities, fact is that there is completely no enforcement on those laws (that's assuming they exist). So in short, there's plenty of people in Ireland, who literally strip their vehicles into parts in their gardens, sell the parts, and scrap the remaining metal. There are no consequences for doing so, unlike in other EU countries where doing it without being registered dismantler is illlegal and enforced.

2. VRT repayment scheme, which some posters mentioned, allows one to reclaim VRT on expirting a vehicle, but vehicle would need to worth more than €2000 accoring to revenue, and it would need to be re-registered in country of destination. That's not what OP was planning to do, so it doesn't apply to him.

3. What OP is worried is probably that he will suffer consequences for just taking car abroad and dismantling in a form of fines for overdue tax, insurance, etc. That's actually not the case in Ireland.

CiniO · 22-06-2018 02:46PM

Easylambda23 wrote: »

I am looking for brands like skoda, vw, seat, opel. There is a lot of these in Slovakia and people there are looking for breaking parts. I want them to be transported by someone.

OK. I think I get your idea.
You want to buy cars for cheap here (ideally crashed or with some defects making them worth little in Ireland) and have them transported on a truck or something to Slovakia, where you could dismantle them and sell for parts.
Sounds like a good idea if you can make it cheap enough to make money out of it.

What you mentioned about need for NCT when exporting a car only relates to VRT repeyment scheme, which won't apply to you. Don't need to worry about it.

In short you can just buy a car, pack it on a truck and bring it in Slovakia. There's nothing more you need to do.

People you'll be buying those cars from, might want to transfer ownership into your name though. Do you have address in Ireland? If so - just have them registered in your name at your address.
If you don't live in Ireland and don't have address, then you might inform sellers, that you're exporting cars abroad, and take Registration Cert with you - however some sellers might be wary to do it.

In short - there's no need to worry about deregistering cars in Ireland.

wexie · 22-06-2018 02:51PM

CiniO wrote: »

In short you can just buy a car, pack it on a truck and bring it in Slovakia. There's nothing more you need to do.

People you'll be buying those cars from, might want to transfer ownership into your name though. Do you have address in Ireland? If so - just have them registered in your name at your address.
If you don't live in Ireland and don't have address, then you might inform sellers, that you're exporting cars abroad, and take Registration Cert with you - however some sellers might be wary to do it.

In short - there's no need to worry about deregistering cars in Ireland.

And then, if you were so inclined and know the right people, you could make a bit of extra cash selling on the logbooks and identities of cars that now no longer exist on the Irish roads....

the system really is too bizarre

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