Moral authority vs baby

Ragnar Lothbrok · 21-06-2018 12:32PM

conorhal wrote: »

I was thinking that myself, that has all the hallmarks of a very elderly man suffering dementia. Certiantly he should not be performing baptisms in that state.
It really says something about the unhealthy and near psychotic obsession with batin' the church some of the edgy athiest crowd have, that they consider atacking an elderly cunfused man the appropriate course of action.

Judging the priest's mental condition based on a few seconds of a Youtube clip isn't really possible.

How do you know that he's not just a violent, child-hating psychopath? There have been "one or two" examples of this in the clergy, you know.

retro:electro · 21-06-2018 12:33PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Good Catholic Ireland is still alive and well in many parts of this country.

This didn’t happen here

Graces7 · 21-06-2018 12:33PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Priest should be up on charges and under investigation by his own lot.

Neither of which will happen of course! Good Catholic Ireland is still alive and well in many parts of this country.

Poor child! Not easy to watch that.

This was in France. Listen to it please?

_Kaiser_ · 21-06-2018 12:35PM

retro:electro wrote: »

This didn’t happen here

Graces7 wrote: »

This was in France. Listen to it please?

Fair enough... point still stands though.

There's still a lot of local "fathers" with lots to answer for as well.

iamwhoiam · 21-06-2018 12:41PM

I was at a Christening in Dublin about 8 years ago and the priest was so grumpy and shouting at little kids in the audience . One little guy was singing a little tune and the priest shouted at the child to "STOP IT " . One whole row of people stood up and walked out of the church and the rest of us clapped them . My own niece had forgotten the white shawl or blanket and so the mother before her passed hers on to my niece .The priest grabbed the shawl and threw it back at the kind mother .Our whole family stood up and walked out too.

facehugger99 · 21-06-2018 12:41PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Fair enough... point still stands though.

No, I'm pretty sure your 'point' was thoroughly demolished actually.

The_Kew_Tour · 21-06-2018 12:44PM

Mental Health issues right?

_Kaiser_ · 21-06-2018 12:45PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

No, I'm pretty sure your 'point' was thoroughly demolished actually.

What.. that the priest should be up on charges and under investigation?

Or that good Catholic Ireland is still alive and well here? It's well known that the only reason most parents nowadays go through with that baptism ceremony is so as to not disadvantage their children's school choices.

As for the local priests with lots to answer for... how many were moved around parishes and never brought to justice for their actions against generations of kids here?

Where am I wrong exactly?

Boom_Bap · 21-06-2018 12:46PM

I'd take a leaf out of the 1st chapter of the Ronda Rousey wrestling bible and I would have power bombed that old c*nt through the altar.

valoren · 21-06-2018 12:47PM

retro:electro wrote: »

This didn’t happen here

I took that to mean, there is the reflexive action to defend the priest i.e. he must be suffering from dementia while you get counter attacked for pointing out the possibility that this guy could actually think he could be a prick. A prick who was lucky the family overlooked such a horrible thing to do to their baby and intentionally smearing people who have replied and who in a similar situation wouldn't be so tolerant as being the problem.

21-06-2018 12:47PM

Isn't it the godparents who are front and centre with the baba when the sprinkling goes down? Those probably aren't the parents.

Either way, he had a grip on the baby and is clearly unhinged so they had to consider how to get the baby off him without making things worse. What a horrible piece of work he is to hurt a tiny baby.

Avatar MIA · 21-06-2018 12:49PM

So not going to watch a clip of a child being hit.

But, I'd not be too shocked if the parents took a while to react. Because of the crowd effect (not the correct term), where the more people involved in an incident the less likely one person is to react, plus they are probably religious, and have an inherent respect for clergy that needed to be overcome.

I'd like to think I'd move in quickly, but I'd not have decked an old man after one slap, would probably have been angry with myself for putting my child at risk.

I'm not totally against violence, for example if I had taken away the child and the priest came towards me to take back the child then my reaction would be different.

seamus · 21-06-2018 12:49PM

Candie wrote: »

Isn't it the godparents who are front and centre with the baba when the sprinkling goes down? Those probably aren't the parents.

Depends on the cultural norm. Any catholic baptism I've gone to, the parents hold the baby and the godparents just stand to the side.

In other countries or flavours of christianity, the godparents may hold the chld I suppose.

21-06-2018 12:51PM

Kiana Scrawny Quadriplegic wrote: »

Another violent baptism

[url]Https://www.thesun.ie/news/2565108/bizarre-moment-greek-orthodox-bishop-repeatedly-dunks-tiny-baby-in-water-in-most-violent-baptism-ever/[/url]

Saw another one ages ago with violent priest, where the parents just accepted it, haven't managed to dig it out yet though.

I can't believe that. His little arms could have broken - not to mention the motion being similar to shaking a baby. What a monster.

HappyAsLarE · 21-06-2018 12:54PM

Hipster dude should have manned up and slapped him.

bot43 · 21-06-2018 12:54PM

Are people getting excessive cross about this because it was a priest who hit the child?

Would we be equally aghast and appalled if it were a dula or a shamen or a wiccan in a heathen naming ceremony.

I know I would be, just making sure that the anger is directed correctly.

Glass fused light · 21-06-2018 12:55PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Yes . " making strange" is a fear or terror of a stranger . The child was clearly distressed and no way would I have left one of mine in that state in the first place

Nope it's the stage most go through, it's the child being able to identify that the person is not mammy or daddy and is new. We have had it with all the nieces and nephews and neighbour kids at about 3-4 months onwards. We had a little one coming who would scream her head off like she spotted an axe murderer if you looked in the pram, she was eventualy happy to check behind the furniture for the axe before settling down to play but kept a close eye on the adults in the room, now she is still shy but chatter away if asked about stuff (the biscuit bribe helps).

HappyAsLarE · 21-06-2018 12:56PM

bot43 wrote: »

I know I would be, just making sure that the anger is directed correctly.

Are you the anger police?

no.8 · 21-06-2018 12:57PM

Following on from a previous post. I would say it took a second or so to register.on top of that the priest is holding the childs head. The priority of the father was to not injure the boy in the act of getting him away from the priest.

That was shocking, imo fair play to the parents for not stooping to his level

HappyAsLarE · 21-06-2018 12:58PM

no.8 wrote: »

Following on from a previous post. I would say it took a second or so to register.on top of that the priest is holding the childs. The priority of the father was to not injure the boy in the act of getting him away from the priest.

That was shocking, imo fair play to the parents for not stooping to his level

Defending a child is not stooping. A punch right to the nose is justified for me.

Permabear · 21-06-2018 12:59PM

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weldoninhio · 21-06-2018 12:59PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Get this guy to pay him a visit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4v0b8stI98

Is that a rat running across the church steps at 1:20.

21-06-2018 01:00PM

bot43 wrote: »

Are people getting excessive cross about this because it was a priest who hit the child?

Would we be equally aghast and appalled if it were a dula or a shamen or a wiccan in a heathen naming ceremony.

I know I would be, just making sure that the anger is directed correctly.

I don't know what point you are trying to make, but someone slapped a baby across the face.......
That's what people are shocked about!

kneemos · 21-06-2018 01:17PM

Permabear wrote: »

This post had been deleted.y just keep offering them up.

iamwhoiam · 21-06-2018 01:26PM

Glass fused light wrote: »

Nope it's the stage most go through, it's the child being able to identify that the person is not mammy or daddy and is new. We have had it with all the nieces and nephews and neighbour kids at about 3-4 months onwards. We had a little one coming who would scream her head off like she spotted an axe murderer if you looked in the pram, she was eventualy happy to check behind the furniture for the axe before settling down to play but kept a close eye on the adults in the room, now she is still shy but chatter away if asked about stuff (the biscuit bribe helps).

I know what making strange is , I worked all my life with kids .Its a fear of strangers and this baby was terrified . Making strange is a very normal stage admittedly but I still would not stand by and let my child screamed in fear while " making strange " Quite clearly the baby was distressed being manhandled by the priest before he ever slapped him

Graces7 · 21-06-2018 01:31PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Fair enough... point still stands though.

There's still a lot of local "fathers" with lots to answer for as well.

Far wiser of you just to admit your wrong and no it does not "still stand" .

Pintman Paddy Losty · 21-06-2018 01:32PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

What.. that the priest should be up on charges and under investigation?

Or that good Catholic Ireland is still alive and well here? It's well known that the only reason most parents nowadays go through with that baptism ceremony is so as to not disadvantage their children's school choices.

As for the local priests with lots to answer for... how many were moved around parishes and never brought to justice for their actions against generations of kids here?

Where am I wrong exactly?

What has a priest in France got to do with "Good old Catholic Ireland. Alive and Well"?

You're embarrassing yourself here.

Graces7 · 21-06-2018 01:33PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

What.. that the priest should be up on charges and under investigation?

Or that good Catholic Ireland is still alive and well here? It's well known that the only reason most parents nowadays go through with that baptism ceremony is so as to not disadvantage their children's school choices.

As for the local priests with lots to answer for... how many were moved around parishes and never brought to justice for their actions against generations of kids here?

Where am I wrong exactly?

"here we go, here we go, here we go!"

Anything to try to justify YOUR mistake . Does nothing but make you look ******

Graces7 · 21-06-2018 01:42PM

Does anyone have a date on that event , by the way? Seems folk tend to seek waaaaaaaaaaaaay back

iamwhoiam · 21-06-2018 01:48PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Does anyone have a date on that event , by the way? Seems folk tend to seek waaaaaaaaaaaaay back

Does it matter ? It's definitely not the 1700,s

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