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Duke & Duchess of Sussex to visit Dublin, July 10-11

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Aegir wrote: »
    you miss the point.

    Harry is a member of the Royal family and therefore, every mention of his name must be accompanied by the appropriate mention of something the British did, or didn't do.

    God forbid someone should mention the crimes they presided over, just tug your forelock like a good peasant :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    But the cover up lasted till today, during the whole he was serving


    Your reason for demanding it has nothing to do with accountability though and is simply you wanting to him to be asked an embarrassing question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    God forbid someone should mention the crimes they presided over, just tug your forelock like a good peasant :pac:

    Should he apologise for Cromwell also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Didn't take long for the Shinnerbot whingers to arrive on the thread.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Your reason for demanding it has nothing to do with accountability though and is simply you wanting to him to be asked an embarrassing question

    It's only embarrassing because up till now they refused to own up to it. Whats just as embarrassing is to ignore it for fear of offending them


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Didn't take long for the Shinnerbot whingers to arrive on the thread.

    The only people mentioning SF are those trying to deflect from any criticism of 'their betters'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    It's only embarrassing because up till now they refused to own up to it. Whats just as embarrassing is to ignore it for fear of offending them


    who is they? harry was a member was a british army. he wasnt involved in the shooting or the cover up. Or do you think the royal family covered it up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    I hope they enjoy their stay in Dublin and have a good time. I hope people are still able to go about their daily business and this visit doesn't disrupt peoples lives.
    Maybe someone could ask Harry, as a member of the British army what he thinks about the decision announced today to prosecute a british soldier for the manslaughter of an irishman shot in the back after going through a checkpoint in 1988, and why it took so long to finally get looked at

    Considering the fact that Prince Harry was 4 at the time, I doubt he's the correct person to ask these questions...

    Jesus, I just realized that you are a mod of the "history and whatever" forum, are you actually for real?

    Page 2 and the thread has been completely derailed by idiotic statements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    It's only embarrassing because up till now they refused to own up to it. Whats just as embarrassing is to ignore it for fear of offending them


    So you admit it has nothing to do with a demand for accountability or answers its just a petty demand for "justice" as you see it but in reality with no substance at all


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    who is they? harry was a member was a british army. he wasnt involved in the shooting or the cover up. Or do you think the royal family covered it up?
    The British State, that the royals are heads of.

    You think charles knew nothing about the Bloody Sunday cover up? Or that the Queen never once read about what happened in any of those cases and thought something might be up? Is she that naive, thick? I don't think so


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The British State, that the royals are heads of.

    You think charles knew nothing about the Bloody Sunday cover up? Or that the Queen never once read about what happened in any of those cases and thought something might be up? Is she that naive, thick? I don't think so


    What makes you think harry has an answer to your question? They are heads of state but they dont run the country.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    VinLieger wrote: »
    So you admit it has nothing to do with a demand for accountability or answers its just a petty demand for "justice" as you see it but in reality with no substance at all
    We're finally getting an attempt at justice, through the courts in at least this case of a man shot in the back, but still waiting on the Hooded Men appeal, and waiting for any prosecutions for Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy, so yes it is part of a demand for accountability and a refusal to let it be swept under the carpet by certain folk


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What makes you think harry has an answer to your question? They are heads of state but they dont run the country.

    How about you answer my questions first and I'll see if it's worth replying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    We're finally getting an attempt at justice, through the courts in at least this case of a man shot in the back, but still waiting on the Hooded Men appeal, and waiting for any prosecutions for Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy, so yes it is part of a demand for accountability and a refusal to let it be swept under the carpet by certain folk


    and in what way will asking a question of somebody in an attempt to embarrass them help in this process? Who do you think should ask Harry this question? Do you think it might pop up in conversation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    The British State, that the royals are heads of.

    You think charles knew nothing about the Bloody Sunday cover up? Or that the Queen never once read about what happened in any of those cases and thought something might be up? Is she that naive, thick? I don't think so
    Again, missing the point. No-one's suggesting they don't have opinions on this or any matter. They won't express them in public, ever - that's what you need to grasp. The Queen is the head of State of the UK, not the head of the UK Government - that would be the Prime Minister.

    You know that that kind of question will get no public response whatsoever - so your motive for suggesting it be asked is clearly not because you hope for any kind of answer, but merely as some kind of public virtue signalling. You might as well ask Michael Higgins, the President of Ireland, about the assassination of Lord Mountbatten, for all the chance of an answer.

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    How about you answer my questions first and I'll see if it's worth replying


    get the feck out of that. you're talking ****e. they probably knew as much as we did of what happened.


  • Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We're finally getting an attempt at justice, through the courts in at least this case of a man shot in the back, but still waiting on the Hooded Men appeal, and waiting for any prosecutions for Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy, so yes it is part of a demand for accountability and a refusal to let it be swept under the carpet by certain folk

    Isn’t it as a result of the historical enquirers team, set up by the err, British government?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I hope they enjoy their stay in Dublin and have a good time. I hope people are still able to go about their daily business and this visit doesn't disrupt peoples lives.



    Considering the fact that Prince Harry was 4 at the time, I doubt he's the correct person to ask these questions...

    Jesus, I just realized that you are a mod of the "history and whatever" forum, are you actually for real?

    Page 2 and the thread has been completely derailed by idiotic statements.
    He was also a proud member of the army for many years.

    I can post what I like thanks, someone needs to say it instead of pretending we're all best buds now and ignoring the criminal preceedings


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    get the feck out of that. you're talking ****e. they probably knew as much as we did of what happened.
    Thought you'd say that. Give them a little credit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Thought you'd say that. Give them a little credit


    why?


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  • Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Aegir wrote: »
    aren't we supposed to have moved on, or is that only when discussing Sinn Fein's crimes?

    In fairness, as yet another After Hours thread demonstrates you and your Unionist fellow travellers are not exactly doing a great job at moving on from defending your medieval, sectarian British royalist cult. Try a single day without proselytising here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Should he apologise for Cromwell also?

    Maybe he is coming across to thank us - you know - for fighting the good fight back then for his 'family'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭BuyersRemorse


    I'm sure that while the Duchess of 'Sex is here, she'll be treated to a pint of Guinness and presented with a framed certificate of her Irish ancestry (seven times removed)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Given that the Royal Family™ are nothing without the oxegen of publicity, you'd have to wonder was his choice of bride more to do with filling glossy magazines and keeping up the celebrity image than anything as piddling as love or companionship. They have a talent for survival anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,591 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Agricola wrote: »
    They have a talent for survival anyway.

    Like cockroaches, only more expensive :)

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Like cockroaches, only more expensive :)

    Hah! I thought with that avatar, you'd be on your knees kissing the royal ring, so to speak.

    Never judge a book........... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,591 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Agricola wrote: »
    Hah! I thought with that avatar, you'd be on your knees kissing the royal ring, so to speak.

    Never judge a book........... :D

    Nope, I'd like a nice Republic across the sea from this one.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    And then the big day on the 12th. Wonderful. ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Your reason for demanding it has nothing to do with accountability though and is simply you wanting to him to be asked an embarrassing question

    It's only embarrassing because up till now they refused to own up to it. Whats just as embarrassing is to ignore it for fear of offending them
    You had a mass murderer in your Parliament and what makes it worse is he was elected. So I think it's a bit rich for you to question Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex who is merely carrying out his obligations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    The only people mentioning SF are those trying to deflect from any criticism of 'their betters'

    quack quack.


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