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DCM 2018 - Mentored Novice Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    If it's showing up as one of your clubs then you have been added

    Thank you!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Kellygirl wrote: »
    I can see you there (I assume it’s you anyway). What makes you think it’s not working?


    Oh, nothing really. I'm just getting used to the app I suppose, I wasn't really sure what I was supposed to be seeing. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭healy1835


    Lidl have their running socks back in store. 3 quid a pop, stock up :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭smashiner


    I did nice run/LSR on Sunday morning.....man it was warm :rolleyes:!!

    I have switched over to electrolyte tablets and good auld H20 in recent years and ditched the sports drinks and I have to say I feel a lot better afterwards.

    I still use sports drinks such as Lucozade for the odd race day for a bit of a sugar hit, but in general I am finding that the electrolyte drinks are much easier on the stomach.

    Now is a good time to get your hydration tactics in order on your LSR's as you will be able to find out what works for you in prepp for the big day.

    I personally use HIGH5 tablets, but others are good too (Nunn, ALDI/LIDL brands), much cheaper than buying expensive sports drinks as well!

    #lowcostrunning :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭Damo 2k9


    smashiner wrote: »
    I did nice run/LSR on Sunday morning.....man it was warm :rolleyes:!!

    I have switched over to electrolyte tablets and good auld H20 in recent years and ditched the sports drinks and I have to say I feel a lot better afterwards.

    I still use sports drinks such as Lucozade for the odd race day for a bit of a sugar hit, but in general I am finding that the electrolyte drinks are much easier on the stomach.

    Now is a good time to get your hydration tactics in order on your LSR's as you will be able to find out what works for you in prepp for the big day.

    I personally use HIGH5 tablets, but others are good too (Nunn, ALDI/LIDL brands), much cheaper than buying expensive sports drinks as well!

    #lowcostrunning :D
    Yeah sports drinks are out the window for me too, although when you are gasping after a race, an ice cold lucozade hits the spot :pac:

    The HIGH5 Zero Tabs are my preference too, have tried the Nunn ones and although they are nice, the flavours in the HIGH5 are much better.

    If people find it hard getting water on board, I used these a lot last year to keep the levels up without getting bored. Very little in them, and a lot of flavours! Just pop it into a 2L or 500ml bottle.

    https://bodyfirst.ie/product-tag/bolero/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭brownbinman


    Tough route for anyone doing Rock n Roll 1/2

    https://twitter.com/RnRDublinHalf/status/1006544840799158275


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,777 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Tough route for anyone doing Rock n Roll 1/2

    https://twitter.com/RnRDublinHalf/status/1006544840799158275

    50 quid plus fees is madness for the half!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ChippyRun


    Tough route for anyone doing Rock n Roll 1/2

    Yes I'm doing this one, very hilly new course. Knockmaroon Hill a bit of a climb in a car never mind a run! 8.30 start also a bit awkward. Popes visit means they can't use the park apparently. Should be interesting !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭NyOmnishambles


    Did the 10k into the office again this morning

    Found the first few k tough as I was a bit stiff from cycling yesterday but once I loosened up and fell into a rhythm it was quite comfortable

    Around the same overall time as last week but due to the slow start and feeling good I accidentally did a negative split :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Did the 10k into the office again this morning

    Found the first few k tough as I was a bit stiff from cycling yesterday but once I loosened up and fell into a rhythm it was quite comfortable

    Around the same overall time as last week but due to the slow start and feeling good I accidentally did a negative split :)

    Hi NyOmnishambles and welcome to the group. It wasn't clear to me from your opening post when you followed the boards plan and if you completed the marathon at the end or if injury get in the way? As KellyGirl already said don't worry about times, just keep everything nice and slow, a pace you can hold a conversation at or if you want to be more scientific you can use the McMillan pace calculator. You also mentioned the treadmill in your introduction - are you still using it or doing all your runs on the road now?

    For those you are still struggling to slow down their runs - last yr when i was struggling I used to tell myself that by running slower i was getting the added benefit of spending longer on my feet running and that would all help come marathon day when i was going to have spend 4 plus hours putting one foot in front of the other! Whatever works ;)

    It's great to see some of you signing up for the race series half. For anyone whom it doesn't suit it would be a good idea to try to find another half on or close to the same weekend. We can help you adjust the plan if it's not the exact same weekend. It's a good idea to do at least 1 long race (10m or half) in the build up to the marathon, you can use it to practice your race plan for the marathon - wear the same clothes, eat the same breakfast etc and there are many other benefits which we will discuss nearer to the time.

    On another note, just a gentle reminder that the advice on here applies to everyone! Whether you're a 7 min/mile runner or a 12 min/mile runner, if you're a novice marathon runner then the advice applies to you. If you don't consider yourself to be a novice marathon runner then there are other threads for improvers and such likes. And please don't be shy about posting in reply to each other - you never know what small thing you might say that can make a difference to someone else :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Alorra


    Hello all

    I have been watching and reading (and trying to get the key lessons and experiences into my running, thanks all) these last few weeks, I signed up a few months ago to DCM, training has been light to date though. This will be my first marathon and so adding my name to the list here too.

    I have done the race series before over the years with odd other races thrown in.

    This is the first time I am going to use a race specific race program and give it time, rather than being very adhoc about training.

    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)

    The last race I did was the half marathon in Melbourne 1.44 (October), this is very flat and I had someone who was much fitter than I run with me to do this. ( I will take it though :) )

    The other half's over the years would be in the 1.45 to 1.50 mark.

    5k 21.08 (park runs)
    10k 46.53

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
    No

    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    3 days at a stretch.

    Anything from 15k to 40k a week depending on what I have on/ laziness etc

    What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?

    Going to aim for a 3.45 to 4.00

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?

    5-6 days - Hoping the boards one seen as I am signing up here. and some good classes like Pilates or something else.

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    Commitment - Not giving it the time it needs to do this successfully and injuries.

    Why are you running this marathon?

    it is time to get off the fence and stop looking at other people do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭effibear


    Would I be ok to split some of the easy runs on the boards plan eg the 4/5 miles on a Tuesday?

    I was thinking of commuting to work running those runs but the distance would be split between morning and evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Hi All, we are going to try to keep the Strava group to just members of this thread. Therefore I will be doing a tidy up of it.

    Can people pm with me with their Strava username so I can ensure you remain in the group? If I delete anybody by accident feel free to pm me to add you again.

    Also, if you want to join the group, please also pm here on boards when you submit the join request so we can therefore add you?

    We have people requesting to join but need to make sure they are members of this thread also.

    Thanks a million.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    effibear wrote: »
    Would I be ok to split some of the easy runs on the boards plan eg the 4/5 miles on a Tuesday?

    I was thinking of commuting to work running those runs but the distance would be split between morning and evening.

    Personally I think you’d need to be doing those miles altogether to be getting the aerobic benefit from them. Could you do them as additional miles and maybe do that Tuesday run on a Monday for example. All easy running?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭brownbinman


    Kellygirl wrote: »
    Can people pm with me with their Strava username so I can ensure you remain in the group?

    Can we have a non disclosure agreement in place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭NyOmnishambles


    ariana` wrote: »
    Hi NyOmnishambles and welcome to the group. It wasn't clear to me from your opening post when you followed the boards plan and if you completed the marathon at the end or if injury get in the way? As KellyGirl already said don't worry about times, just keep everything nice and slow, a pace you can hold a conversation at or if you want to be more scientific you can use the McMillan pace calculator. You also mentioned the treadmill in your introduction - are you still using it or doing all your runs on the road now?

    Hi ariana

    Injury got the better of me unfortunately, I had completed the longest run on the Boards plan so was confident that I could get round but got injured doing the half and the recovery period put me out

    I will follow the boards plan again as it really works and I have confidence in it

    The treadmill was to get my fitness up to feel confident in going out on the road, my training will all be on the road
    For those you are still struggling to slow down their runs - last yr when i was struggling I used to tell myself that by running slower i was getting the added benefit of spending longer on my feet running and that would all help come marathon day when i was going to have spend 4 plus hours putting one foot in front of the other! Whatever works ;)

    That is the way I treat it too, time on the feet is a huge part of it I feel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Griff75


    It’s almost a month since I posted in here originally and unfortunately I’m on my 3rd set of antibiotics in the last 6 weeks! I feel like my running fitness has fallen away altogether and I’ve barely run 20 miles since the start of May let alone worrying about 20 miles a week before starting a plan. I’m not due to finish current medication until next Wednesday (strep throat) so any tips for easing back into things before the end of June?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Can we have a non disclosure agreement in place?

    In what respect BrownBinMan?

    If you mean I’m terms of me knowing people’s real names then I won’t be sharing that info with anybody (other than Ariana and SkyBlue).

    It’s purely to keep the Strava group to this group if possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Griff75 wrote: »
    It’s almost a month since I posted in here originally and unfortunately I’m on my 3rd set of antibiotics in the last 6 weeks! I feel like my running fitness has fallen away altogether and I’ve barely run 20 miles since the start of May let alone worrying about 20 miles a week before starting a plan. I’m not due to finish current medication until next Wednesday (strep throat) so any tips for easing back into things before the end of June?

    Try not to worry Griff. Why don’t you get out and just do some really easy runs for the next week or so and ease yourself back into it. No pressure at all. I would say go at about 50% of you 5km pace so 12 min mile of you run 5km at an 8min mile.

    Hope you are sorted now and fully better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭brownbinman


    Kellygirl wrote: »
    In what respect BrownBinMan?

    If you mean I’m terms of me knowing people’s real names then I won’t be sharing that info with anybody (other than Ariana and SkyBlue).

    It’s purely to keep the Strava group to this group if possible.

    Was only joking, don't worry. :) Will DM now regardless


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭smashiner


    For those you are still struggling to slow down their runs - last yr when i was struggling I used to tell myself that by running slower i was getting the added benefit of spending longer on my feet running and that would all help come marathon day when i was going to have spend 4 plus hours putting one foot in front of the other! Whatever works

    I find that running with an MP3 player with slower songs on a self created album (Meatloaf/Foo Fighters/other 'Dad' Rock Songs ;)) tends to slow me down. I am so going to do this to avoid injury this year, as I now realise that getting to the start line in one piece is a big part of the 'Journey'.....sorry....closes the 'Doors' behind him and leaves!!

    Here I go again on my own.....going down the only road I've ever know...:pac::D:D:D

    Too much sugar at lunchtime.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Was only joking, don't worry. :) Will DM now regardless

    Thought so but people could be wary too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    effibear wrote: »
    Would I be ok to split some of the easy runs on the boards plan eg the 4/5 miles on a Tuesday?

    I was thinking of commuting to work running those runs but the distance would be split between morning and evening.

    As kellygirl said it would be much more beneficial to do the complete mileage in one go. Could you bus it to or from work and make a little detour on your run commute in or out to bring it up to the distance you are looking to do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Alorra wrote: »
    Hello all

    I have been watching and reading (and trying to get the key lessons and experiences into my running, thanks all) these last few weeks, I signed up a few months ago to DCM, training has been light to date though. This will be my first marathon and so adding my name to the list here too.

    I have done the race series before over the years with odd other races thrown in.

    This is the first time I am going to use a race specific race program and give it time, rather than being very adhoc about training.

    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)

    The last race I did was the half marathon in Melbourne 1.44 (October), this is very flat and I had someone who was much fitter than I run with me to do this. ( I will take it though :) )

    The other half's over the years would be in the 1.45 to 1.50 mark.

    5k 21.08 (park runs)
    10k 46.53

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
    No

    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
    3 days at a stretch.

    Anything from 15k to 40k a week depending on what I have on/ laziness etc

    What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?

    Going to aim for a 3.45 to 4.00

    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?

    5-6 days - Hoping the boards one seen as I am signing up here. and some good classes like Pilates or something else.

    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
    Commitment - Not giving it the time it needs to do this successfully and injuries.

    Why are you running this marathon?

    it is time to get off the fence and stop looking at other people do it.

    Welcome! I have to say you most definitely have all the building blocks in place to hit your goals. Sticking to the broad outline of the boards plan and running 5/6 days a week sounds perfect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Griff75 wrote: »
    It’s almost a month since I posted in here originally and unfortunately I’m on my 3rd set of antibiotics in the last 6 weeks! I feel like my running fitness has fallen away altogether and I’ve barely run 20 miles since the start of May let alone worrying about 20 miles a week before starting a plan. I’m not due to finish current medication until next Wednesday (strep throat) so any tips for easing back into things before the end of June?

    Hi Griff, sorry to hear you've been struck with so much illness but listen, better now than August-October! Hopefully you'll be fighting fit in no time but in the mean time don't stress about the missed weeks - no point chasing or crying over lost mile. Do what you can in the next 10 days (good advise from KG below, keep everything extra extra slow and easy so as not to put any extra stress on a body which is already struggling to fight illness) but getting healthy is your most important task, right! Once the plan starts if you are struggling in the early weeks we can adjust but i think you'll be fine, just get yourself well enough first :)
    Kellygirl wrote: »
    Try not to worry Griff. Why don’t you get out and just do some really easy runs for the next week or so and ease yourself back into it. No pressure at all. I would say go at about 50% of you 5km pace so 12 min mile of you run 5km at an 8min mile.

    Hope you are sorted now and fully better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭Applegirl26


    Hi, I've been part of the Strava group for a few weeks now but was feeling a little shy to join in here! I've never posted in boards before so bear with me if I make any mistakes.



    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please)

    I've been running for 2 years and started racing last year. I'm not fast..

    10k, Great Ireland Run 2018, April 59:30 ( my first sub 1 ever!)
    10 Frank Duffy 2017, 01:42 ish, can't remember exactly
    Haven't run any 5k races this year but last year it was 29 mins
    Haven't raced any half marathons but have signed up for 2 before DCM.

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)

    No



    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.

    I would run as often as I can. I take 2 rest days a week so I'm currently running 4/5 days. My long run is at 10 miles. When I signed up for DCM last November, I read that I should be running at least 20 miles a week before I even start the training. I think I'm at that level now, more or less.

    I also swim twice a week







    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?

    I haven't decided on a plan yet. I'd love to try the boards plan but maybe it's a little out of my league...
    I'll train as hard as I need to. I'm used to getting up at crazy o clock to get the miles in.


    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?

    Injury. If I can make it to the start line I know I'll make it to the finish line. I just need to get through the training.



    Why are you running this marathon?

    It feels like the next step. I feel ready to tackle the challenge of running 26.2

    Also there's some "stuff in the basement".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Hi, I've been part of the Strava group for a few weeks now but was feeling a little shy to join in here! I've never posted in boards before so bear with me if I make any mistakes.



    Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please)

    I've been running for 2 years and started racing last year. I'm not fast..

    10k, Great Ireland Run 2018, April 59:30 ( my first sub 1 ever!)
    10 Frank Duffy 2017, 01:42 ish, can't remember exactly
    Haven't run any 5k races this year but last year it was 29 mins
    Haven't raced any half marathons but have signed up for 2 before DCM.

    Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)

    No



    How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.

    I would run as often as I can. I take 2 rest days a week so I'm currently running 4/5 days. My long run is at 10 miles. When I signed up for DCM last November, I read that I should be running at least 20 miles a week before I even start the training. I think I'm at that level now, more or less.

    I also swim twice a week







    How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?

    I haven't decided on a plan yet. I'd love to try the boards plan but maybe it's a little out of my league...
    I'll train as hard as I need to. I'm used to getting up at crazy o clock to get the miles in.


    What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?

    Injury. If I can make it to the start line I know I'll make it to the finish line. I just need to get through the training.



    Why are you running this marathon?

    It feels like the next step. I feel ready to tackle the challenge of running 26.2

    Also there's some "stuff in the basement".


    Ah I'm delighted to see you have plucked up the courage! That's very steady training you have been doing over the past few months. How are you finding the training? Tough or very comfortable? I think if you keep a tight rein on paces you will be well able for the Boards plan. That base which you have built is something invaluable yet often overlooked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭effibear


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    As ariana said it would be much more beneficial to do the complete mileage in one go. Could you bus it to or from work and make a little detour on your run commute in or out to bring it up to the distance you are looking to do?

    Thanks sky blue and kellygirl.

    Yeah that’s an option for the shorter runs, I think when it gets up to 5/6 miles I met just need to wait until after work as I’m a plodder !

    Planning out my options so I’ve no excuses when the plan starts. :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Hi Applegirl and Alorra welcome aboard!

    Alorra you have some fast times there, i'd say there's massive untapped potential with some structured training! Consistency and patience are key to this game ;)

    Applegirl, you have a fantastic base, well done on being so proactive last November. This obviously means a lot to you that you've been plotting and planning since then, that dedication will stand to you :) For what it's worth i think you'll be well able for the Boards plan!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭ariana`


    effibear wrote: »
    Thanks sky blue and kellygirl.

    Yeah that’s an option for the shorter runs, I think when it gets up to 5/6 miles I met just need to wait until after work as I’m a plodder !

    Planning out my options so I’ve no excuses when the plan starts. :-)

    Kudos for planning ahead effibear, you are right to be thinking these things through at this stage - take note everyone ;)


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