Dairy chit chat II

mahoney_j · 30-05-2018 11:17PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

It's p,ain obvious when you hear Ryan this is an ACTUAL co op not a business who everyone wants their piece. Interesting to see where arrabawn and ryan will go in the future

From strength to strength hopefully

tanko · 31-05-2018 12:12AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Vasectomised two yearling bulls today, have a few calves I could keep on as well for the same job again next year, do many of ye keep bull calves for that? Got the news our best vet us leaving the practice as well, will be a massive loss.

Is your vet going to another practice or the department?

Mooooo · 31-05-2018 12:38AM

tanko wrote: »

Is your vet going to another practice or the department?

change of scenery I think, dont think hes going to another practice but may make himself available to others nearer to him in the spring i think. Haven't spoken to him myself twas another vet said he was leaving. He is a super vet, as someone here said if a worker moves on to pastures new all you can do is wish him the very best

Mooooo · 31-05-2018 08:23PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Works out around 100 euro a cow for tag, base station and all set-up costs, full 3 year warranty, and it costs 70 euro to replace a lost/broken tag....
Good finance packages available over 3 years with a 20% deposit upfront, was going to go with cow manager tags from wws but it was 9 grand up-front and 270 a month indefinitely as long as you used the system but full warranty on everything except lost tags which where 30 euro

So for 100 cows 10 grand set up, and say 30 heifers in every year for arguments sake 2100 for those tags or can they be taken off culls and reused? Vs say cost of rearing vasectomised 2 bulls including op say 3 grand a year and stickers tail paint say 300. Reason I only say 2 is that for first 3 weeks no vasectomised required with volume of activity? Obviously safety and possible time saving to the tag system. What increase in submission rates would you think would be required to pay for the system?

jaymla627 · 31-05-2018 08:29PM

Mooooo wrote: »

So for 100 cows 10 grand set up, and say 30 heifers in every year for arguments sake 2100 for those tags or can they be taken off culls and reused? Vs say cost of rearing vasectomised 2 bulls including op say 3 grand a year and stickers tail paint say 300. Reason I only say 2 is that for first 3 weeks no vasectomised required with volume of activity? Obviously safety and possible time saving to the tag system. What increase in submission rates would you think would be required to pay for the system?

Tags are reusable, simply cut tag of cull/dead cow and tag next cow with new back piece and assign tag to new cow on computer, it does full health monitoring aswell along with all ai dates/heat events/calving dates stored via cloud for the lifetime of cow will be installing automatic drafting system with it aswell next year....
Also has a calving alert feature/along with suspected abortion feature and also flags up cows not cycling , the information it provides and stored is unbelievable am more impressed with it every day, also means I can leave a lad milking in the parlour during breeding and not have to worry about missed heats etc

Mooooo · 01-06-2018 09:00AM

Another advantage over the odd bull is what a pain in the hole some of them can be at milking, fecking one of the fr bulls goes down the parlour and stands at the gate to the yard bawling and cows won't go past him. Had a Hereford years ago and he'd wander into the yard and lie away down chewing the cud for milking or if cows were going back to the same paddock you could leave him there and he'd be waiting for them in the field

Water John · 01-06-2018 10:28AM

My sister when she was very young, was asked by an uncle about the cows and bull in the yard. She said they didn't milk the bull as he only had one teat.
Used to have a Hereford too who used to stay in the field.

alps · 01-06-2018 10:46AM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Works out around 100 euro a cow for tag, base station and all set-up costs, full 3 year warranty, and it costs 70 euro to replace a lost/broken tag....
Good finance packages available over 3 years with a 20% deposit upfront, was going to go with cow manager tags from wws but it was 9 grand up-front and 270 a month indefinitely as long as you used the system but full warranty on everything except lost tags which where 30 euro

Jay....you probably have said earlier, but would you mind if asking what system you have put in?

jaymla627 · 01-06-2018 11:02AM

alps wrote: »

Jay....you probably have said earlier, but would you mind if asking what system you have put in?

Scr sensetime, it's the newest version out by scr only been available the past few months, exact same technology used by lely for their robots

whelan2 · 01-06-2018 07:36PM

Angus bull in with cows today. 4 cows not served yet

farisfat · 01-06-2018 09:05PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Scr sensetime, it's the newest version out by scr only been available the past few months, exact same technology used by lely for their robots

Is it connected to a auto drafting gate?

leg wax · 02-06-2018 08:18AM

anyone on here near the large dairy farm for sale in the comic this week in wicklow,, legs is thinking......about going for a look.

Mooooo · 02-06-2018 08:28AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Angus bull in with cows today. 4 cows not served yet

Just the one? How many weeks were you at ai?

whelan2 · 02-06-2018 09:42AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Just the one? How many weeks were you at ai?

Ye just the one he's 3 years old. 42 days ai.

Gawddawggonnit · 02-06-2018 11:17AM

Just sold 1k tons of straw off the combine to a dealer. Gave me 50% up front to secure. Nice.

Ye’re not the only ones that emptied straw sheds methinks.

Timmaay · 02-06-2018 02:58PM

leg wax wrote: »

anyone on here near the large dairy farm for sale in the comic this week in wicklow,, legs is thinking......about going for a look.

Someone grab a photo of the article please

Buford T. Justice XIX · 02-06-2018 03:25PM

leg wax wrote: »

anyone on here near the large dairy farm for sale in the comic this week in wicklow,, legs is thinking......about going for a look.

Timmaay wrote: »

Someone grab a photo of the article please

This the one?

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/340-acre-estate-steeped-in-tradition-for-3-5m-374049

Panch18 · 02-06-2018 04:15PM

Legs have you won the euro millions??!!!

Fine place and a big block of land together

GrasstoMilk · 02-06-2018 04:36PM

leg wax wrote: »

anyone on here near the large dairy farm for sale in the comic this week in wicklow,, legs is thinking......about going for a look.

Was on a farm walk on that place 2 years ago. Lot of what that farm is today is from the guy who was running the operation on behalf of the owner. Super clued in lad who hadn't a clue about dairy cows never mind high yielding cows until a few years before he started there

wrangler · 02-06-2018 05:19PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Someone grab a photo of the article please

The house would be some pain to be responsible for.....hope there's a house warming when he does buy it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/colonial-living-on-341-acre-wicklow-estate-with-300-years-of-family-history-1.3495984

The smell of cowsh..e would be some aura in the place

RightTurnClyde · 02-06-2018 06:07PM

leg wax wrote: »

anyone on here near the large dairy farm for sale in the comic this week in wicklow,, legs is thinking......about going for a look.

Ah Leg you're doing it all wrong. Be like the owner of the local stud farm...he doesn't go to see land he's buying, he goes to see land he's just bought. That's the way the big guys do it

GrasstoMilk · 02-06-2018 07:09PM

wrangler wrote: »

The house would be some pain to be responsible for.....hope there's a house warming when he does buy it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/colonial-living-on-341-acre-wicklow-estate-with-300-years-of-family-history-1.3495984

The smell of cowsh..e would be some aura in the place

It will probably end up being an exclusive hotel or something I'd reckon. Theres numerous out buildings and the house is in very good order

Gawddawggonnit · 02-06-2018 10:36PM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Was on a farm walk on that place 2 years ago. Lot of what that farm is today is from the guy who was running the operation on behalf of the owner. Super clued in lad who hadn't a clue about dairy cows never mind high yielding cows until a few years before he started there

If they’re high yielders then the milk tanker would want to be collecting every day.
Or it’s a typo in tank size...

mf240 · 02-06-2018 10:46PM

Buy it. Sell the big house and a few acres. And three of the cottages with an acre each. Live in the other cottage and milk a few cows. Simples.

If money wasn't a problem you could crush the big house for cow roads.

Gawddawggonnit · 02-06-2018 10:59PM

mf240 wrote: »

Buy it. Sell the big house and a few acres. And three of the cottages with an acre each. Live in the other cottage and milk a few cows. Simples.

If money wasn't a problem you could crush the big house for cow roads.

Old lad bought 365 acres with a big house a good few years ago. The house had been leveled and the stone put to agri use before he got it.
It was the home of a certain Elizabeth Bowen...ironic?

GrasstoMilk · 03-06-2018 12:00AM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

If they’re high yielders then the milk tanker would want to be collecting every day.
Or it’s a typo in tank size...

Was 200 very good Holstein cows when I visited it.
Iirc there was 2 tanks in the dairy. Both a similar size. Maybe 6klitre each?

leg wax · 03-06-2018 01:06AM

wrangler wrote: »

The house would be some pain to be responsible for.....hope there's a house warming when he does buy it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/colonial-living-on-341-acre-wicklow-estate-with-300-years-of-family-history-1.3495984

The smell of cowsh..e would be some aura in the place

11 bedrooms .........legs thinks a hore house and fook the cows

Reggie. · 03-06-2018 01:12AM

leg wax wrote: »

11 bedrooms .........legs thinks a hore house and fook the cows

Did ya throw on a bid?

wrangler · 03-06-2018 07:03AM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

It will probably end up being an exclusive hotel or something I'd reckon. Theres numerous out buildings and the house is in very good order

A farmer near here bought a church that was beside his farm and converted to a restaurant.....the restaurant became known for the smell of slurry before the quality of the food.....restaurant only lasted a short while after spending an absolute fortune on it

alps · 03-06-2018 11:42AM

Growth here high nineties with the past 3 weeks and more. We are on a 16/17 day round going back into topped paddocks, pgy 1600/1700, but they are stemmy. I'm reluctant to top out again as now really concerned about drought situation. It's not the time to push cows to grass out this mess as yields too precious at present.

9mm in the past week with only 44mm in the past month, coupled with such high temoeratures, and I'm getting the impression that this push to seed by the grass at such a short rotation is a symptom of stress.

Cut silage over 2 weeks ago and have a significant surplus pulled from the platform, but will be a shame if we have to give it back...

How do guys here deal with drought, and at what point do you decide and implement any drought tactics..?

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