2 year vintage/veteran NCT

80sDiesel · 24-05-2018 8:41pm #1

Got my NCT this evening on my 88. The 2 yr rule is alive and kicking! Says vintage/veteran on the disc.
Owning, running, fixing a classic can be a pain sometimes but nice to get some good news.

Dades · 24-05-2018 11:45pm

Great news. Can I ask if you had an up to date test going in for this one?

I went through the test last Sunday and got a new list of stuff that make my car a deathtrap. Stuff like a bulb not lighting on the dash when the handbrake is on (hasn't come on in 9 years), and that killer that is weak washer spray.

Luckily, I work out on the long mile road and the garage next door has a bunch of lads who sorted out a bunch of stuff including making a switch for my handbrake.

Retest on Saturday.

ht9zni1gs28crp · 25-05-2018 10:50am

Dades wrote: »

Great news. Can I ask if you had an up to date test going in for this one?

I went through the test last Sunday and got a new list of stuff that make my car a deathtrap. Stuff like a bulb not lighting on the dash when the handbrake is on (hasn't come on in 9 years), and that killer that is weak washer spray.

Luckily, I work out on the long mile road and the garage next door has a bunch of lads who sorted out a bunch of stuff including making a switch for my handbrake.

Retest on Saturday.

You will get the 2 year test. In fact they are now re issuing all Vintage NCT's with a two year test that were tested between May 2017 and May 2018 . Give them a call, you will need to return your current disc and cert and a new one will be issued.

See the NCT website under 'The Test' then 'FAQ' then Item 19

Please note: if your vintage vehicle was inspected during the period 20th May 2017 to 19th May 2018, you will be entitled to a two year certificate. NCTS will endeavour to write to each customer affected detailing the requirements in order to amend their current NCT certificate. All queries regarding this change can be dealt with by the customer service department on (01) 4135994.

80sDiesel · 25-05-2018 12:37pm

Dades wrote: »

Great news. Can I ask if you had an up to date test going in for this one?

Car was imported last year, was declared off road and only taxed and insured in Jan. So never had an NCT before.
Just thinking there and if i were looking for another classic ( always am ) i would be more interested in an 80 with 2 years NCT rather than a 79 with no NCT required.

Dades · 25-05-2018 1:44pm

Nataly Green Fluid wrote: »

Please note: if your vintage vehicle was inspected during the period 20th May 2017 to 19th May 2018, you will be entitled to a two year certificate.

By that criteria - I should be getting a six year certificate. :P

80sDiesel wrote: »

Just thinking there and if i were looking for another classic ( always am ) i would be more interested in an 80 with 2 years NCT rather than a 79 with no NCT required.

That would make sense... though the percentage of 1980 cars for sale with NCTs would really limit that search.

unkel · 26-05-2018 12:22am

Nataly Green Fluid wrote: »

You will get the 2 year test. In fact they are now re issuing all Vintage NCT's with a two year test that were tested between May 2017 and May 2018 . Give them a call, you will need to return your current disc and cert and a new one will be issued.

See the NCT website under 'The Test' then 'FAQ' then Item 19

Please note: if your vintage vehicle was inspected during the period 20th May 2017 to 19th May 2018, you will be entitled to a two year certificate. NCTS will endeavour to write to each customer affected detailing the requirements in order to amend their current NCT certificate. All queries regarding this change can be dealt with by the customer service department on (01) 4135994.

Wow, my car would qualify for that. '87 car I brought in in September and passed the re-test early October 2017 (valid until October 2018). I'll follow up and let you all know how I get on.

kadman · 26-05-2018 8:52am

unkel wrote: »

Wow, my car would qualify for that. '87 car I brought in in September and passed the re-test early October 2017 (valid until October 2018). I'll follow up and let you all know how I get on.

Does this ruling apply to NCT only, or the CVRT as well.

I assume the CVRT is a 2 year test after May 2018, but no updated certs in

respect of any tested before that date??

ht9zni1gs28crp · 26-05-2018 10:25am

unkel wrote: »

Wow, my car would qualify for that. '87 car I brought in in September and passed the re-test early October 2017 (valid until October 2018). I'll follow up and let you all know how I get on.

Yes, you will receive a two year cert.

kja1888 · 28-05-2018 10:37pm

Dades wrote: »

Great news. Can I ask if you had an up to date test going in for this one?

I went through the test last Sunday and got a new list of stuff that make my car a deathtrap. Stuff like a bulb not lighting on the dash when the handbrake is on (hasn't come on in 9 years), and that killer that is weak washer spray.

Luckily, I work out on the long mile road and the garage next door has a bunch of lads who sorted out a bunch of stuff including making a switch for my handbrake.

Retest on Saturday.

Who said it was a deathtrap? Its a National Car Test, not a National Car Safety Test. Safety is one aspect. Although if you don't know what can happen to brakes if the handbrake is accidentally left on and the warning light isn't working, or you're unable to understand why the washers need to be aimed correctly it's probably best not to make lame jokes about people who do.

PauloMN · 28-05-2018 11:18pm

unkel wrote: »

Wow, my car would qualify for that. '87 car I brought in in September and passed the re-test early October 2017 (valid until October 2018). I'll follow up and let you all know how I get on.

Same here, '87 car bought in last July and NCT'd. Was thinking my NCT was due soon - this is good news.

unkel · 28-05-2018 11:32pm

Yeah I've my car actually up for sale, so I was going to put it through early this month to get a 27 month fresh NCT. No need for that now

80sDiesel · 29-05-2018 9:17am

With the new change where MOTs can be swapped for an NCT, i am guessing that if you bought a classic UK car with a valid MOT obtained since May the 20th, it can be swapped for a 1 year NCT and subsequently a 2 year NCT from the date of the MOT.

“From May 20th 2018, if you import a second-hand vehicle from another EU member state which was tested after that date and the vehicle has a current EU Roadworthiness Certificate, you can have the unexpired portion of the certificate recognised by exchanging your out-of-state roadworthiness certificate for an Irish issued EU recognition certificate,” Applus said in a statement on its website.

So any post 79 classics without a NCT will now be a hard sell as future buyers ( me including ) would now expect a car to have a 2 years ( or remaining of ) NCT.

unkel · 29-05-2018 11:44am

That's not so good news imho. Our NCT is far stricter than the MOT can be. My own car had a brand new MOT, yet it needed all brake lines to be replaced as well as some welding on one end of one sill to pass the NCT.

But I guess we'll have to live with the new rules.

Esel · 29-05-2018 5:04pm

unkel wrote: »

Yeah I've my car actually up for sale, so I was going to put it through early this month to get a 27 month fresh NCT. No need for that now

Link please?

Dades · 29-05-2018 5:43pm

kja1888 wrote: »

Who said it was a deathtrap? Its a National Car Test, not a National Car Safety Test. Safety is one aspect. Although if you don't know what can happen to brakes if the handbrake is accidentally left on and the warning light isn't working, or you're unable to understand why the washers need to be aimed correctly it's probably best not to make lame jokes about people who do.

There's a case to be made that when a car is 35+ years old certain things could become an "advisory". Like a dimly lit bulb in the dash that hasn't come on in nine years.

Isambard · 30-05-2018 2:54am

kadman wrote: »

Does this ruling apply to NCT only, or the CVRT as well.

I assume the CVRT is a 2 year test after May 2018, but no updated certs in

respect of any tested before that date??

got letter from CVRT people, new cert to follow! (non commercial use of course)

kadman · 30-05-2018 7:24am

Isambard wrote: »

got letter from CVRT people, new cert to follow! (non commercial use of course)

Thats interesting. My own camper is 31 year old, and due my CVRT

in August . Fingers crossed then:)

Isambard · 30-05-2018 8:08am

yep you'll get two years if you test it then, but it looks like you won't have to!

kadman · 30-05-2018 8:41am

I also got the letter stating the new rules , and "where appropriate" expiry period will be extended to
align with the new test frequency.

Just checked to my expiry is in 3 weeks time.

Isambard · 30-05-2018 9:00am

I was surprised but I read it to say that my one year cert would be automatically extended to two years, after 31st May. You should get a cert in the post too if I read it right,.

kadman · 30-05-2018 9:12am

Isambard wrote: »

I was surprised but I read it to say that my one year cert would be automatically extended to two years, after 31st May. You should get a cert in the post too if I read it right,.

Well here is hoping you are right:)

kop77 · 30-05-2018 8:55pm

I vrt'd my 86 car in June 2016 when it turned 30 years old but never bothered getting it NCT'd,

I typed the reg number into the NCTS site today as if I was booking it in and it says not due till June this year,

How does that happen..?

unkel · 30-05-2018 9:16pm

Read what it says again

It will show that you do not have a valid NCT, but if you had one, it would expire in June this year.

kop77 · 30-05-2018 9:25pm

Would it be subjected to the same tests as a normal NCT,

kja1888 · 30-05-2018 10:12pm

Dades wrote: »

There's a case to be made that when a car is 35+ years old certain things could become an "advisory". Like a dimly lit bulb in the dash that hasn't come on in nine years.

No there isn't. If it's not working, it's not working. It's there for a reason. The age of the car is immaterial. You obviously haven't made the connection between a non-functioning handbrake warning light and potential brake failure. Don't forget you brought the car in for the test with the faults already present, which means you're obviously completely ambivilant to to doing any kind of safety checks on your car. If you think fooling someone into giving you a roadworthiness cert is a good thing then the only person you're fooling is yourself.

unkel · 30-05-2018 10:31pm

That's a bit harsh kja1888. But I guess fundamentally you are right.

I was sympathetic to Dades' argument when I read it first. My car too got failed on "insufficient washer function" or whatever it was called

But it's not really workable to start making exception lists. I'm sure he realises that himself.

Dades · 31-05-2018 4:14pm

kja1888 wrote: »

Don't forget you brought the car in for the test with the faults already present, which means you're obviously completely ambivilant to to doing any kind of safety checks on your car.

Bravo. That's quite the extrapolation.

In other news...

No advisories. Apart from those on Boards.ie.

kermitpwee · 04-06-2018 6:16pm

Should that Porsche have got 2 years nct or am I missing something?

Isambard · 04-06-2018 6:27pm

2 years from date of last test/ anniversary of first reg

Dades · 04-06-2018 10:53pm

Test was due last October. I had difficulty getting some welding work done (my old mechanic kept me hanging) and only got it done in the new year. Was booked in again but missed it because of the snow; at that point the new rules came to light so I decided to wait till May. (Turns out they were giving out extra years for cars tested before May anyway. Meh!)

elperello · 07-06-2018 9:56pm

I have an eighties car that I NCT'd as usual on it's anniversary in August 2017.
On Tuesday this week at 11am I got a letter from Applus asking me to return the NCT cert and disc in order to receive replacements to extend the validity of the NCT to August 2019.

I put them in the post at 5pm on Tuesday.

Today at 11am the replacements arrived complete with a nice note from Applus thanking me for my patience!

That's what I call service:)

kadman · 07-06-2018 11:02pm

My doe test on my 87 camper is due in 2 weeks time. To date I have received no updated disc,

and I dont expect to at this stage being so close to my test date. But I,ll keep you updated

on that. I,m still on the cvrt system online as being due for my test in two weeks time, so I dont

see. anything changing

unkel · 07-06-2018 11:24pm

elperello wrote: »

I have an eighties car that I NCT'd as usual on it's anniversary in August 2017.
On Tuesday this week at 11am I got a letter from Applus asking me to return the NCT cert and disc in order to receive replacements to extend the validity of the NCT to August 2019.

I put them in the post at 5pm on Tuesday.

Today at 11am the replacements arrived complete with a nice note from Applus thanking me for my patience!

That's what I call service:)

I think I'll wait till that letter comes in the post for me too

Duke O Smiley · 08-06-2018 3:15am

unkel wrote: »

I think I'll wait till that letter comes in the post for me too

AFAIK you can go to their head office in citywest and get a new cert there and then if you phone in advance.

quenching · 08-06-2018 8:22am

I just received a letter about swapping certs. However, should they not send out a new cert and then ask for the return of the old one? Is it an offense to drive a car that requires NCT certification but not display the square "disc"? I can only find this under the list of penalty points:

"Using vehicle (car) without valid test certificate (NCT)"

but this on the Citizens Information website:

"it is an offence to drive a car that is liable for testing without displaying a National Car Testing Service disc and offenders will face Class C fines, as well as penalty points."

I know its Ireland and its unlikely to be a problem but are Applus essentially making it an offense to drive your car by swapping certs in a way that your left without one for a period of time?

Also, and I'm being facetious here, I now have to go to the post office to get stamps so I can swap certs, where's my prepaid envelope?

Isambard · 08-06-2018 8:23am

kadman wrote: »

My doe test on my 87 camper is due in 2 weeks time. To date I have received no updated disc,

and I dont expect to at this stage being so close to my test date. But I,ll keep you updated

on that. I,m still on the cvrt system online as being due for my test in two weeks time, so I dont

see. anything changing

call them or text them,

worst that can happen is take the test and get two years from now....

kadman · 08-06-2018 8:51am

Isambard wrote: »

call them or text them,

worst that can happen is take the test and get two years from now....

Any revised cert for your camper?

Isambard · 08-06-2018 10:16am

not yet, they said they'd send it out automatically. I'd say enquire at the CVRT centre

kadman · 08-06-2018 12:28pm

I contacted cvrt site specifically asking about revised certs being issued for
vehicles that currently have a test cert.

As expected, I received an answer, that does not clarify anything. I suspect that revised certs will be issued
to vehicles that have been tested recently as opposed to those that were tested nearly 12 months ago,
as is my case, makes sense really.

The answer I received was
Hi XXX,

Your vehicle will be due for test after the 19th June 2018 and you will be issued a
2 year CRW then

Dades · 08-06-2018 12:36pm

quenching wrote: »

I know its Ireland and its unlikely to be a problem but are Applus essentially making it an offense to drive your car by swapping certs in a way that your left without one for a period of time?

It's a bit daft alright that they ensure you are without your valid docs for a few days while they issue a new one. In reality though that letter shown to a Garda would cover any checkpoint exchange.

quenching wrote: »

Also, and I'm being facetious here, I now have to go to the post office to get stamps so I can swap certs, where's my prepaid envelope?

Ha! I have a similar issue with a mandatory government car test that we have to pay for when we turn up!

Isambard · 08-06-2018 4:07pm

kadman wrote: »

I contacted cvrt site specifically asking about revised certs being issued for
vehicles that currently have a test cert.

As expected, I received an answer, that does not clarify anything. I suspect that revised certs will be issued
to vehicles that have been tested recently as opposed to those that were tested nearly 12 months ago,
as is my case, makes sense really.

The answer I received was
Hi XXX,

Your vehicle will be due for test after the 19th June 2018 and you will be issued a
2 year CRW then

that's not what they said in their letter, they said a revised cert would be sent out after 31.5.2018

Isambard · 08-06-2018 4:08pm

Dades wrote: »

It's a bit daft alright that they ensure you are without your valid docs for a few days while they issue a new one. In reality though that letter shown to a Garda would cover any checkpoint exchange.

Ha! I have a similar issue with a mandatory government car test that we have to pay for when we turn up!

letters to a Government Dept are Freepost

The Big Red Fella · 08-06-2018 4:22pm

Isambard wrote: »

letters to a Government Dept are Freepost

says nothing about Freepost on the return address i have to return my cert to?

Isambard · 08-06-2018 6:06pm

The Big Red Fella wrote: »

says nothing about Freepost on the return address i have to return my cert to?

if it's to a Govt Dept it's freepost.

Isambard · 08-06-2018 6:07pm

Isambard wrote: »

that's not what they said in their letter, they said a revised cert would be sent out after 31.5.2018

seems you have to send a form in yourself

from their website

hat if my vehicle is over 30 years old on 20 May 2018 and I have it tested before this date?
If you’ve already had your vehicle tested before 20 May 2018 and you received a CRW valid for one year, you can still apply for an exemption from the requirement to have your vehicle tested annually. To do this you must complete the declaration form (PDF) and return it to us. We will then send you a revised CRW valid for two years from the date the initial test was due or the CRW was created.

gipi · 08-06-2018 6:22pm

Isambard wrote: »

letters to a Government Dept are Freepost

No, they're not, unless there is Freepost in the address.

Esel · 08-06-2018 7:38pm

Isambard wrote: »

letters to a Government Dept are Freepost

Not so, for a good while now afaik.

kadman · 08-06-2018 8:57pm

Isambard wrote: »

that's not what they said in their letter, they said a revised cert would be sent out after 31.5.2018

Read the letter again my friend,:)

They say where appropriate a revised cert will be issued.

And in my case it looks as though its not appropriate for me considering my test is only days away, and that makes perfect sense to me.

Your case might be the appropriate one, maybe not. keep us posted.

kadman · 08-06-2018 9:04pm

That applies to a vintage commercial, which my camper is not,

If you have a vintage commercial vehicle that is tested within the commercial vehicle testing system, you may be entitled to exemption from testing or be able to apply for an exemption from the requirement to undergo an annual roadworthiness test.

Duke O Smiley · 08-06-2018 9:56pm

FWIW, there is a 1988 Fiat Ducato camper on donedeal at the minute advertised with two years test

Isambard · 08-06-2018 10:22pm

kadman wrote: »

That applies to a vintage commercial, which my camper is not,

If you have a vintage commercial vehicle that is tested within the commercial vehicle testing system, you may be entitled to exemption from testing or be able to apply for an exemption from the requirement to undergo an annual roadworthiness test.

Campers at regarded as Commercials , that's why they have to be CVRTd. It's the type of vehicle not the usage . fwiw, mine is taxed as V&V €56

2 year vintage/veteran NCT

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