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The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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  • #1892
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭amcalester


    P_1 wrote: »
    Harris is wiping the floor with Tobin here. If it's a yes on Friday then this could be the making of his political career.

    The making? He’s already a senior government minister.

    I agree that he is playing a blinder here. Very impressive.


  • #1893
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,751 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Ultimately the reality is this.

    Vote no and women will still be forced to go to the UK for an abortion (for whatever reason, whether you agree with it or not.. Though I take issue with the notion that any such woman takes such a decision lightly as the abortion as contraception argument would suggest).

    Vote yes and at least these women can get the care and support they need at home.


  • #1894
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    DOS wrote: »
    Harris seems to only have the rape case argument which is a small percentage.

    Not doing well at all.

    Ah ye I know, sure it's only rape, minor issue really.

    Peadar Toibin couldn't give a monkeys anyway, he's more concerned with party political statements, good platform I suppose.


  • #1895
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    First time I've ever seen even a hint of colour in Simon's face. Can't do a proper tie knot though.


    Frankly, I feel like the No side is ignoring the fact that women are forced to travel for abortion and that somehow lives are saved by not allowing women to go through the whole harrowing experience on home soil.

    But that's just me.

    Can't have nasty abortion tainting pure Catholic Ireland...


  • #1896
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    DOS wrote: »
    Effeminate little fellow, Simon Harris.
    DOS wrote: »
    If Arulkumaran says jump we should all ask how high. Some random fella flown here and we all do as he says.

    Gosh.
    That's some example of Christian love you are showing there.


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  • #1897
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Specialun wrote: »
    Calina wrote: »
    The Steen and Sherlock mess ups point at a campaign in disarray. Why did no want to send Steen to RTE tonight and pull her from a confirmed TV3?


    i think rte would not let her on tonight

    Cora Sherlock was scheduled to do Primetime tonight. She pulled out last minute. Steen was scheduled to do Pat Kenny tomorrow. Word is she has pulled out of that. No campaign attempted to force Steen on RTE as a late replacement. As she has pulled out of TV3 tomorrow...I don't think their campaign organisation is looking too grown up.


  • #1898
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,798 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    DOS wrote: »
    Effeminate little fellow, Simon Harris.

    At least he showed up, unlike Cora Sherlock. He's playing a blinder.


  • #1899
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,083 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Patricia Casey. Ugh.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • #1900
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,168 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    DOS wrote: »
    If Arulkumaran says jump we should all ask how high. Some random fella flown here and we all do as he says.

    Random? He is former president of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists and the International Federation of Gynaecology and Obstetrics. He is editor-in-chief of a journal devoted to best practice in obstetrics and gynecology. He was flown in because he is an internationally recognised expert in the field and has no prior connections to the case under investigation. But you somehow know better than he does. Perhaps god told you?


  • #1901
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,119 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Patricia Casey https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/disabled-girl-sues-doctor-and-psychiatrist-for-negligence-26628871.html


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  • #1902
    DOS
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 191 ✭✭DOS


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    No supporters trying to clap everything in the audience - they want the Claire Byrne free for all because their arguments don't stand on their own two feet.

    Is there a law against being enthusiastic? The Yes supporters in the audience must be comatose.


  • #1903
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Seems steen has pulled out of the debate tomorrow
    Yep.

    It's a tactic. They're not throwing their toys out of the pram, they're deliberately throwing the debates to try and take the fire out of the yes campaign.

    The No campaign is going to lose on Friday unless people don't turn up to vote. They're hoping that by making it look like a dead cert for Yes, that people won't turn out.

    I think realistically if they make a song and dance about it people will watch unseasoned "No" campaigners get slaughtered and they'll feel even more empowered to get out.


  • #1904
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Mary Higgins should be made explain why many countries with abortion have a higher maternal death rate.

    Robert how sure are you that abortion is a cause here? And why? Let me know what research papers I should read on the subject.


  • #1905
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,796 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    Ah ye I know, sure it's only rape, minor issue really.

    Peadar Toibin couldn't give a monkeys anyway, he's more concerned with party political statements, good platform I suppose.

    Peadar is not representing the party here, SF are advocating for a Yes vote.


  • #1906
    erica74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭erica74


    Vote yes to make abortion safe and accessible for women in Ireland. If you vote no, abortion will continue, you will force women to continue travelling outside of Ireland, you will force women to continue buying abortion pills online. Vote yes. Repeal the 8th.


  • #1907
    DOS
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 191 ✭✭DOS


    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    Ah ye I know, sure it's only rape, minor issue really.

    Peadar Toibin couldn't give a monkeys anyway, he's more concerned with party political statements, good platform I suppose.

    Don't twist my words. It's not minor but a small percentage of abortion. Harris speaks as if the majority area rape.


  • #1908
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    DOS wrote: »

    If Arulkumaran says jump we should all ask how high.

    Some random fella flown here and we all do as he says.

    DOS wrote: »

    Some random fella .

    yeah


  • #1909
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,083 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    DOS wrote: »
    Is there a law against being enthusiastic?

    It's not bloody Winning Streak.


    Harris: "Only people mentioning British law are the ones happy for Irish women to continue going there" Zing!

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • #1910
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Bizarre that the No side are backing out like this. So strange.


  • #1911
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,796 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    seamus wrote: »
    Yep.

    It's a tactic. They're not throwing their toys out of the pram, they're deliberately throwing the debates to try and take the fire out of the yes campaign.

    The No campaign is going to lose on Friday unless people don't turn up to vote. They're hoping that by making it look like a dead cert for Yes, that people won't turn out.

    I think realistically if they make a song and dance about it people will watch unseasoned "No" campaigners get slaughtered and they'll feel even more empowered to get out.

    Protecting their personal reputations I think. Leaving a sinking ship.


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  • #1912
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,168 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Mary Higgins should be made explain why many countries with abortion have a higher maternal death rate.

    Can you explain why many countries with abortion have lower maternal death rates? We did this to death a week ago.


  • #1913
    6am7f9zxrsjvnb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭6am7f9zxrsjvnb


    Harris getting his ass kicked here..


  • #1914
    JaMarcus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭JaMarcus


    Harris playing the 'Ra card there :pac:


  • #1915
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Peadar is not representing the party here, SF are advocating for a Yes vote.

    I know, but he's looking to tarnish the opposition and promote himself in the process, pretty much as low as it gets considering the debate.


  • #1916
    bloodless_coup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    The old mental health card. Clear as day it's used as an excuse, ticking a box exercise in the process of getting an abortion.


  • #1917
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Simon Harris is losing this by making up things that Peadar Toibin didn't say.

    Are you sure about that because you have form for doing exactly this


  • #1918
    Simi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭Simi


    Without the charisma of Maria Steen the no campaign hasn't a hope in honest debates.


  • #1919
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,751 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    erica74 wrote: »
    Vote yes to make abortion safe and accessible for women in Ireland. If you vote no, abortion will continue, you will force women to continue travelling outside of Ireland, you will force women to continue buying abortion pills online. Vote yes. Repeal the 8th.

    That's the truth.

    Voting no will not change the current situation at all unless they're somehow going to stop them travelling (which isn't the case)

    Voting yes will let them get the support they need without the added stress, expense and isolation of a plane/ferry trip to another country.


  • #1920
    Balmed Out
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    seamus wrote: »
    Yep.

    It's a tactic. They're not throwing their toys out of the pram, they're deliberately throwing the debates to try and take the fire out of the yes campaign.

    The No campaign is going to lose on Friday unless people don't turn up to vote. They're hoping that by making it look like a dead cert for Yes, that people won't turn out.

    I think realistically if they make a song and dance about it people will watch unseasoned "No" campaigners get slaughtered and they'll feel even more empowered to get out.

    Its a tactic but I think its more that they doubt an Iona institute spokesperson is a good option to convince the undecided. I imagine the very religious would already be no voters.


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  • #1921
    DOS
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 191 ✭✭DOS


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Gosh.
    That's some example of Christian love you are showing there.

    Yes but who is he? What's the agenda? We have a right to ask questions about a fellow none of us ever heard of a week ago influencing a referendum.


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