The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

Itssoeasy · 22-05-2018 09:10PM

The one point I dislike from peader using the socio economic reasons. That's a general election point scoring issue. That's poor form IMO.

_Kaiser_ · 22-05-2018 09:10PM

I have no idea what Miriam's position is but she's crossing the line into badgering Harris now while the other fella is let talk on

DOS · 22-05-2018 09:11PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The world has moved on:

Arulkumaran has also clarified claims around Savita’s death, saying that the Eighth Amendment was a major factor. He refuted claims that sepsis was the only cause of her death, as has been claimed by some during the course of the referendum debate.

If Arulkumaran says jump we should all ask how high. Some random fella flown here and we all do as he says.

freshpopcorn · 22-05-2018 09:11PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I have no idea what Miriam's position is but she's crossing the line into badgering Harris now while the other fella is let talk on

Well her brother is voting Yes!

Hooks Golf Handicap · 22-05-2018 09:12PM

Simon Harris is well schooled and highly intelligent here.

He's winning this easily.

McDermotX · 22-05-2018 09:12PM

Burn for Harris there to be fair.

spookwoman · 22-05-2018 09:12PM

Seems steen has pulled out of the debate tomorrow

erica74 · 22-05-2018 09:13PM

jjmcclure wrote: »

So that everyone knows. Amnesty International is backing YES. I stopped my 10 year plus monthly donation to them when I realised.

Spread the word no side.

Well they campaign for human rights, what did you expect? That has been their position for a very long time.

doylefe wrote: »

People who leave the country for abortions obviously aren't in danger health wise, therefore they are social abortions / abortions on demand.

Obviously? Are you there in the airport and at the ferry taking notes?

Python Desk wrote: »

It's arguably worse to kill an unborn child at 11 weeks.

So you believe girls and women should be forced to carry their rapist's baby? If your wife was raped and ended up pregnant, would you be happy watching her belly grow with her rapist's baby inside of her? Would you be happy raising her rapist's baby?

doylefe wrote: »

I don't care to

Why are you here then?

FrancieBrady · 22-05-2018 09:13PM

DOS wrote: »

If Arulkumaran says jump we should all ask how high. Some random fella flown here and we all do as he says.

:rolleyes::rolleyes: 'Coming over here blah blah blah.....'?

retro:electro · 22-05-2018 09:13PM

Such emotive language from Peadar “another human being can take the life of a child”
Orrrrrr
The woman in which a fetus is gestating can decide she no longer wants to continue the pregnancy

mugsymugsy · 22-05-2018 09:13PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Seems steen has pulled out of the debate tomorrow

Any explanation why?

Cabaal · 22-05-2018 09:13PM

A very big claim to say people in Ireland don't want change, he'll eat those words on Friday.

nullzero · 22-05-2018 09:13PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Simon Harris is smarmy.

Fine Gael finishing school will do that to you.

gmisk · 22-05-2018 09:14PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Seems steen has pulled out of the debate tomorrow

Toys and pram spring to mind...

The No side falling apart

erica74 · 22-05-2018 09:14PM

DOS wrote: »

If Arulkumaran says jump we should all ask how high. Some random fella flown here and we all do as he says.

But you've been quoting him for the last few pages?

DOS · 22-05-2018 09:14PM

Harris seems to only have the rape case argument which is a small percentage.

Not doing well at all.

Balmed Out · 22-05-2018 09:14PM

To be fair I think both speakers are putting their points across well. The usual general election debates have martin doing alright and the rest poorly, these two are a step up in purely debating terms.

spookwoman · 22-05-2018 09:14PM

mugsymugsy wrote: »

Any explanation why?

trying to find out the details

https://twitter.com/Colmogorman/status/999029492755681280

Vladimir Poontang · 22-05-2018 09:14PM

Harris can deliver a good point but his trademark smarmy style does him no favours.

P_1 · 22-05-2018 09:14PM

Harris is wiping the floor with Tobin here. If it's a yes on Friday then this could be the making of his political career.

gmisk · 22-05-2018 09:15PM

Mary Higgins when peader read that letter though... Her face was hilarious!

DOS · 22-05-2018 09:15PM

erica74 wrote: »

But you've been quoting him for the last few pages?

I haven't mentioned him before! You're confused my dear

uptherebels · 22-05-2018 09:15PM

mugsymugsy wrote: »

Any explanation why?

At this stage I'd say damage limitation

amcalester · 22-05-2018 09:15PM

Nice ending from Harris there.

Deserved a mic drop.

Cabaal · 22-05-2018 09:15PM

mugsymugsy wrote: »

Any explanation why?

No side falling apart?

Interesting thing I heard this today, was talking to somebody involved in yes campaign, they said they were involved in 2015 ref too.

After the polls they showed up to the count centre and there was no sign of any of the no side, the no side knew at that stage they had lost so they didn't bother showing to keep tabs on the vote outcome.

Alf Veedersane · 22-05-2018 09:15PM

First time I've ever seen even a hint of colour in Simon's face. Can't do a proper tie knot though.

Frankly, I feel like the No side is ignoring the fact that women are forced to travel for abortion and that somehow lives are saved by not allowing women to go through the whole harrowing experience on home soil.

But that's just me.

LeinsterDub · 22-05-2018 09:15PM

The irony of a Séin Féin TD preaching that all live is precious

RobertKK · 22-05-2018 09:16PM

Mary Higgins should be made explain why many countries with abortion have a higher maternal death rate.

erica74 · 22-05-2018 09:16PM

DOS wrote: »

I haven't mentioned him before! You're confused my dear

Apologies, got you confused with someone else:pac:

LuckyLloyd · 22-05-2018 09:16PM

No supporters trying to clap everything in the audience - they want the Claire Byrne free for all because their arguments don't stand on their own two feet.

The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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