Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

major bill · 21-05-2018 03:27PM

RIP, poor girl

I salute the Garda for taking this sicko out, one less creep walking the streets of Dublin.

21-05-2018 03:29PM

Reati wrote: »

Just look at Larry Murphy getting released. Perfect example of our very broken "justice" system.

Murphy wasn't sentenced to life though. He was released far too early, I agree with you there. He was always gonna get out at some stage however as he had a release date.

maninasia · 21-05-2018 03:30PM

Omackeral wrote: »

maninasia wrote: »

Obviously should have gone to scene of crime that evening

Absolutely. Why didn't you phone them and tell them where it was?

Abduction was witnessed and reported immediately.

maninasia · 21-05-2018 03:30PM

Omackeral wrote: »

maninasia wrote: »

Obviously should have gone to scene of crime that evening

Absolutely. Why didn't you phone them and tell them where it was?

Abduction was witnessed and reported immediately.

On going to the site the next morning they confirmed identity from the bag there. Would have been better to check immediately at site.

Just a protocol.

Mahony0509 · 21-05-2018 03:31PM

RIP to that young girl. Fair play to the Garda for downing that sick bastard.

The Talking Bread · 21-05-2018 03:32PM

Imagine being the search team trying to recover the body at the moment. Apparently they cant even get to it physically yet

chicorytip · 21-05-2018 03:32PM

TerrorFirmer wrote:

Hard to make any sort of sense of it at all. So many unanswered questions.

Indeed. Who knows? The man may well have been suffering from severe mental illness (psychosis) so it would be unwise to pass judgement given that nothing is yet known about his background or character.

More Music · 21-05-2018 03:33PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

not even worth giving people like her a platform

True. But you did post a link to it on Boards thus giving it a bigger platform. You might as well tell us.

Johnny Jukebox · 21-05-2018 03:33PM

irishproduce wrote: »

That Garda has my backing. Fair play to him

As a parent of a 21 year old daughter who lives very close to the scene of the abduction, he certainly has mine.

Amalgam · 21-05-2018 03:33PM

chicorytip wrote: »

Indeed. Who knows? The man may well have been suffering from severe mental illness (psychosis) so it would be unwise to pass judgement given that nothing is yet known about his background or character.

Stop making excuses.

Velvet Trolls everywhere..

Strazdas · 21-05-2018 03:36PM

irishproduce wrote: »

That Garda has my backing. Fair play to him

From what we've heard, the killer came at an unarmed traffic cop with a knife (and those who were in attendance were of the opinion he had already probably murdered someone). Shooting dead a maniac who was resisting arrest and who was about to launch a knife attack on a policeman doesn't seem that unreasonable.

Sam Quentin · 21-05-2018 03:37PM

chicorytip wrote: »

Indeed. Who knows? The man may well have been suffering from severe mental illness (psychosis) so it would be unwise to pass judgement given that nothing is yet known about his background or character.

F#@k him and his 'pychosis'....

21-05-2018 03:37PM

RIP Jastine, and my thoughts and prayers are with her family and friends, and with the family of the evil f*ckt*rd who is responsible for her horrendous death.

touts · 21-05-2018 03:37PM

RIP. Very sad for her family and also for the family of the murderer.

I hope the guard who took him down isn't scapegoated out of the service. The Irish Council for Civil Liberties and other Criminals Rights organisations will doubtless make his life miserable.

Wanderer78 · 21-05-2018 03:39PM

Sam Quentin wrote:

F#@k him and his 'pychosis'....

You may know someone that has experienced pychosis, have a chat to them about it, it's rather disturbing

RacoonQueen · 21-05-2018 03:39PM

maninasia wrote: »

Obviously should have gone to scene of crime that evening and do a check on the Nissan qashqais owners in the area overnight. Confirmed abduction and identified the abductee by 11pm
Seems like delays could have been crucial here.
Should not have waited for daybreak.

Also know it can be easy to question in hindsight, but still some questions there.

Well known that you've got about 12 hours in most of these cases.

Where'd you get this information from that they waited for daybreak? Do you know when the body was left at site? Was it Saturday? Or did he move it there and dump it on Sunday?
Interested to know as you seem to have this information that the guards don't.

No one knows, she could have been dead and dumped within an hour. The two sites are a few km's from each other.

Bob Harris · 21-05-2018 03:41PM

touts wrote: »

RIP. Very sad for her family and also for the family of the murderer.

I hope the guard who took him down isn't scapegoated out of the service. The Irish Council for Civil Liberties and other Criminals Rights organisations will doubtless make his life miserable.

All the baying for Guards to have guns and when one is used and someone is shot (and rightly so for being a murderer) now all the outrage is going in the other direction.

Billy86 · 21-05-2018 03:41PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Imagine being the search team trying to recover the body at the moment. Apparently they cant even get to it physically yet

There's a thick, dark cloud looming over the Wicklow mountains and that general area now from where I'm sitting, which is not going to help at all. You'd almost swear it was 20 minutes before nightfall in December which hopefully clears after the great little bit of weather we've had. I would imagine it will be a lot easier to keep going in dry & clear than dark, misty and rainy.

Suckit · 21-05-2018 03:44PM

Terrible news.

:(
Very very sad.
I had a very very faint sliver of hope and was really clinging on to it that she might be found alive.
This whole thing just seems so pointless.
The poor girl going about her own business on a sunny day and ripped from her life and from her family.
We may never know, more importantly, both families may never know why.

Poor girl.

R.I.P.

Purple Mountain · 21-05-2018 03:45PM

I was thinking earlier that it was a pity he was dead as he'll take a lot of answers to his grave..but..then I remembered that Larry Murphy or Graeme Dwyer never gave up their secrets and in Dwyer case continued to deny his guilt so who knows if we'll ever know what kind of a double life this latest sick b*stard lived.
I hope the media leave his family alone though. They have my prayers as well as Jastinas family.

21-05-2018 03:45PM

More Music wrote: »

What did she tweet? Looks like it was removed.

maninasia wrote: »

Obviously should have gone to scene of crime that evening and do a check on the Nissan qashqais owners in the area overnight. Confirmed abduction and identified the abductee by 11pm
Seems like delays could have been crucial here.
Should not have waited for daybreak.

Also know it can be easy to question in hindsight, but still some questions there.

Well known that you've got about 12 hours in most of these cases.

Pretty much was maninasia said but with less words cos, it’s twitter. Managed to get in a hashtag about justice and some other one. She mentioned the12 hour thing to and she’d be alive if Gardai had got there sooner.

Dunno how she came to that conclusion but obviously realised she was a numpty and deleted her tweet

marklazarcovic · 21-05-2018 03:45PM

with the ridiculous lenient sentences handed down in this country for the most serious of crimes , i for one am glad this cnut was shot to death. that garda is a fckin hero. if she were my daughter its what i would want for her killer. and id have zero remorse either.

rip jastine valdez.

BarryD2 · 21-05-2018 03:46PM

maninasia wrote: »

Abduction was witnessed and reported immediately.

On going to the site the next morning they confirmed identity from the bag there. Would have been better to check immediately at site.

Just a protocol.

You obviously haven't a clue as to the sequence of events and/or the basic geography of the area.

The Gardai appear to have acted entirely appropriately in this case.

The Talking Bread · 21-05-2018 03:46PM

chicorytip wrote: »

Why was it necessary to shoot a man - armed with, as it transpired, a knife - multiple times resulting in his death? Are police marksmen not trained to shoot in order to disable rather than kill? It may well be revealed that this clearly very disturbed individual raped and murdered the woman he abducted but the gardai clearly would not have known if this were the case at the time.

chicorytip wrote: »

This is nonsense. He is holding a knife as opposed to a high powered firearm. The garda response was disproportionate.

chicorytip wrote: »

Indeed. Who knows? The man may well have been suffering from severe mental illness (psychosis) so it would be unwise to pass judgement given that nothing is yet known about his background or character.

Are you, of all people, SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY playing the virtue signalling "don't pass judgment before facts" card

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

21-05-2018 03:47PM

chicorytip wrote: »

Indeed. Who knows? The man may well have been suffering from severe mental illness (psychosis) so it would be unwise to pass judgement given that nothing is yet known about his background or character.

Yes there are cases where psychosis can have these results, and I will take back my sentiments if this proves so, and that the man hadn’t chosen to taken substance that worsened mental status, and that he hadnt refused medical treatment. And that some stupid psychiatrist hadn’t withdrawn anti-psychotic medication as in the horrendous case as happened some years ago in Castkeknock where an Irish psychiatrist had withdrawn a medication that an Italian man had been prescribed and instructed to stay on for life in Italy.

Sam Quentin · 21-05-2018 03:47PM

touts wrote: »

RIP. Very sad for her family and also for the family of the murderer.

I hope the guard who took him down isn't scapegoated out of the service. The Irish Council for Civil Liberties and other Criminals Rights organisations will doubtless make his life miserable.

Sooner or later all that piece of dirt deserved was a bullet.
I'm sure the poor girl was already dead before they shot the c%#t. So the shooter did this country a favour. Let no one give this Garda any grief. Give him a medal.

WomanSkirtFan8 · 21-05-2018 03:49PM

awful, awful news. Was really hoping against hope that this wouldn't be the case. RIP Jastine.

Amalgam · 21-05-2018 03:50PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Are you, of all people, SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY playing the virtue signalling "don't pass judgment before facts" card

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Look at their post history in this thread, carefully velvet trolling the forum. Just ignore.

More Music · 21-05-2018 03:51PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Pretty much was maninasia said but with less words cos, it’s twitter. Managed to get in a hashtag about justice and some other one. She mentioned the12 hour thing to and she’d be alive if Gardai had got there sooner.

Dunno how she came to that conclusion but obviously realised she was a numpty and deleted her tweet

I don't think Three would be too impressed either.

Time · 21-05-2018 03:51PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

You may know someone that has experienced pychosis, have a chat to them about it, it's rather disturbing

I suppose you think Alan Hawe was just a good family man who “snapped” too :rolleyes:

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