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Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,498 ✭✭✭Wheety


    endacl wrote: »
    They focused their attention on looking for the vehicle that they had a clear description of. And tracked it down in short order. What would be the point of searching where she wasn’t any more?

    This.

    They thought she may still be alive and finding the car became a priority.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    JaMarcus wrote: »
    Would rather he wasn't shot and had lived to see a proper punishment to be honest. Death seems like an easy, consequence-less way out.

    Saved her family from going through a painful trial where her last moments would be played out.
    They'd also have to apply after 7 years for him not to be released on parole.
    And he'd be out in 20 years with good behavior leaving the women of Ireland at his mercy.

    So all in all his death was a good result. Its a shame the same didn't happen to other known abductors of women.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JaMarcus wrote: »
    Would rather he wasn't shot and had lived to see a proper punishment to be honest. Death seems like an easy, consequence-less way out.

    Realistically in this country, it wouldn't be harsh enough. I'd say he would have been carted off to coward central aka Arbour Hill prison to serve his time among the other perverts and scumbags who have preyed on the vunerable or weak. They wouldn't have risked putting him with your regular prisoner... for his safety. Fcuking bastard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭ThePott


    What a horrible story.

    A tragic and senseless death.

    Thoughts with the families, RIP Jastine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,968 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    The family is in the Philippines or in Ireland?
    If the first, I'm thinking maybe a Gofundme account could be set up?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Disagree. He deserved to live with the consequences until a ripe old age. Shooting was too good for him. Too quick.

    And it has transpired into an agenda against the Garda by virtue signallers with little to none facts regarding what went down in the car park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Gwen Cooper


    bear1 wrote: »
    The family is in the Philippines or in Ireland?
    If the first, I'm thinking maybe a Gofundme account could be set up?
    I think I read somewhere that the parents live in Ireland too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,461 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Is it true the police did not investigate the scene of the kidnapping until the next morning?

    A crime scene is usually preserved until the scenes of crime examiners arrive and do a painstaking forensic examination. Trampling all over the area prior to that destroys evidence. Bodies are often left at scenes for many hours to allow the experts do their examination.
    I have seen this happen on several occasions near where I live following murders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭grbear


    Truly horrible story and outcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    bear1 wrote: »
    The family is in the Philippines or in Ireland?
    If the first, I'm thinking maybe a Gofundme account could be set up?

    Parents and Jastine lived in Wicklow for the last three years. Her poor parents, the horror they've just gone through is unimaginable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    The Gardai gave him the justice he deserved.
    That's the job for the likes them just put the cu.t down end of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,968 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I think I read somewhere that the parents live in Ireland too.

    Would anyone be up for taking part in donations? To help with costs etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    No justice exists here, especially now that the Garda who shot him (and indeed Gardai in general) are going to be and already are vehemently being targetted as if they are the true protagonists in this.

    I mean look at this spiteful tweet, seconds after her body was announced as being found

    She doesn't even have her facts right!!

    https://twitter.com/MsSusieBenson/status/998571930042208256

    MsSusieBenson is a thick. That is all.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    In time, it will give both families some chance to move on.

    Appreciate the sentiment but I doubt you'd ever truly move on from that. Either family.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    Very sad case and Sumpathies to her poor family, moving from a basket case country to here where you’d expect to be safe and then this happens. The guard who killed this lowlife tramp should be given a medal and big pension now. Every single scumbag like that murderer should get the bullet, or ideally there should be a kempetei like secret police to torture them first before execution.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭SirChenjin


    May she rest in peace, poor little lass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Gwen Cooper


    Imagine that they come to Ireland with their daughter with the hope of a better life and this is what happens. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    I think I read somewhere that the parents live in Ireland too.

    She lived with family, not necessarily her parents. I knew a Filipino girl once who moved over and stayed with her aunty/uncle family. It is common that they come over and get educated in early 20s

    There was a comment on RTE that it was unusual that she was not in touch with the family on Saturday as she was always in contact with her Mam on FB which seems to me that her parents lived at home still


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I mean look at this spiteful tweet, seconds after her body was announced as being found

    She doesn't even have her facts right!!

    That doesn't matter once you get to spout off against the Government or the Gardai. Throw in a hashtag or two and you're off the hook, you'll always get someone rowing in behind you. Ignorant imbecile. Twitter is sheer poison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Time


    Disagree. He deserved to live with the consequences until a ripe old age. Shooting was too good for him. Too quick.

    Given how Justice is handed out in this country, so is locking him up. He wouldn’t have suffered, at least he isn’t a drain on the rest of us rotting in the ground. Hopefully his family will do the honorable thing and use to claim the body like Garda Goldens killers family did.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭manutd




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Omackeral wrote: »
    That doesn't matter once you get to spout off against the Government or the Gardai. Throw in a hashtag or two and you're off the hook, you'll always get someone rowing in behind you. Ignorant imbecile. Twitter is sheer poison.

    Cases like these tend to bring the morons with their opinions and judgments out in full force, Twitter is hardly unique in that <points back at rest of thread>

    :(


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bear1 wrote: »
    Would anyone be up for taking part in donations? To help with costs etc.

    I would imagine the cost would be covered in mere minutes if the family or friends or colleagues of Jastine set up a fundraiser. The ordinary folks in this country simply don't stand for stuff like this. If it's scum wiping out scum, that's easier to brush off but not this. No way. I'm sure we'd stand together without having to be asked twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    Oh man that's horrible.

    I'd guess that most of us felt it would end with the discovery of a body but hoped against all likelihood she'd be alive and well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Sundew


    I believe she moved to Ireland to join her parents who were living and working here. She is an only child which makes it heartbreaking. Awful end to this tale. At least they got some form of justice by him being killed, as they would not have got it, from our justice system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 M_Bear


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Disagree. He deserved to live with the consequences until a ripe old age. Shooting was too good for him. Too quick.

    Disagree.

    Better off for everyone that he is dead.  Zero chance of him reoffending in 10 - 15 years time.

    Just look at Larry Murphy - if only he had been shot, the world would be a safer place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    dar_cool wrote: »
    Horrible dirty scumbag. Hope he rots in hell

    He will not get the chance to gloat or get pen-mail in jail, unlike some other knife obsessed flute from South Dublin..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Cleopatra_


    I can't even imagine the fear she must have felt. Especially since so many witnesses saw her in distress over a period of time. It must have been so distressing for those witnesses too to see her clearly in need of help in the back of a car but unable to do anything. That poor girl. May she rest in peace now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    This is so desperately sad, we all had hoped for the best. Her poor family and friends, they shouldn't be in this position, none of us can understand why anyone would do this to another person.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 218 ✭✭A Pint of Goo


    A least the scumbag is dead. I hope he rots in hell.


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