Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

The Talking Bread · 21-05-2018 02:13PM

Why are media publishing this twisted man's photo. Looking at him is making me sick, I can't imagine how the family and friends are feeling when they see the face of such evil actions when they still have not even found her

Doesn't help his poor family either

iamwhoiam · 21-05-2018 02:13PM

VainHard Bendix wrote: »

I think you are 100% right about the dangers of knife in close combat/contact.

However that doesn't really apply to the situation we have here. The Garda didn't feel himself in danger and wasn't in close proximity to the knife man.
He believed he saw two heads in the jeep and saw the knife. Believing the victim about to be stabbed he fired to preserve her life. Now it transpires that there was only one person in the car. However if the Garda genuinely believed he saw two and believed a life was in danger then he was professionally and ethically obliged to fire.

There will be a lot of focus on the Garda's actions and of course a GSOC investigation. I think his actions will be upheld. I think the public for the most part are/will be supportive of that.

How on earth are you even making all this up ? Are you the Garda or just able to read his mind ./YOU WERE NOT THERE

VainHard Bendix · 21-05-2018 02:15PM

pah wrote: »

Another poster who was actually at the scene!!! Fill is in on the rest will ya

That description is from Garda Paul Williams. Official Garda mouthpiece of the last thirty years. It's as close to gospel as you'll get for now.
Otherwise, why discuss the matter at all? Why are you on the thread?

VainHard Bendix · 21-05-2018 02:16PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

How on earth are you even making all this up ? Are you the Garda or just able to read his mind ./YOU WERE NOT THERE

I can read your mind. It's a blank page.

Royale with Cheese · 21-05-2018 02:20PM

OscarBluth wrote: »

The vast majority of cases like this have male perpetrators. It could be purely to do with their physical size, or it could be something else- either way not acknowledging that, and wondering if there's some way we're failing boys and men that contributes to it, seems pointless.

Rape is a nearly solely make perpetrated crime, that is just the logistics of it. I've no idea what conclusion you're trying to draw from the above.

Andy Magic · 21-05-2018 02:27PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Why are media publishing this twisted man's photo. Looking at him is making me sick, I can't imagine how the family and friends are feeling when they see the face of such evil actions when they still have not even found her

Doesn't help his poor family either

Probably best if you just turned your computer off :pac:

Mrcaramelchoc · 21-05-2018 02:27PM

VainHard Bendix wrote: »

I can read your mind. It's a blank page.

Ba dum tish.

_Kaiser_ · 21-05-2018 02:28PM

Reading back and of course there's posters/links to idiots trying to virtue-signal and/or generalise men everywhere! :rolleyes:

I've only started using Reddit over the last few months really, but one thing Boards could benefit from is their [Agenda Spammer] tag to help cut out/easily identify and thus bypass this nonsense.

It's worrying though how many Irish people seem to be soaking up this US-led shyte. As I said in the the Jordan Peterson thread, the problems of the US are very different to those elsewhere in the West, and I don't understand these attempts to project those problems onto societies/countries/cultures elsewhere.

21-05-2018 02:28PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Rape is a nearly solely male perpetrated crime, that is just the logistics of it. I've no idea what conclusion you're trying to draw from the above.

Now that you say it, has a woman ever been convicted of actual rape in this jurisdiction?

wellwhynot · 21-05-2018 02:29PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Rape is a nearly solely make perpetrated crime, that is just the logistics of it. I've no idea what conclusion you're trying to draw from the above.

Does this give you a clearer picture? 90% of sexual violence against women and girls is by men. 93% of sexual violence against men and boys is by men. The majority of victims of sexual violence are women.

kunst nugget · 21-05-2018 02:31PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Now that you say it, has a woman ever been convicted of actual rape in this jurisdiction?

They can't be:

Rape is defined by the Criminal Law (Rape) Act 1981 as sexual intercourse by a man with a woman who is not consenting to the intercourse, and where the man either knows that she is not consenting or is reckless as to whether she is or not.

theoneeyedman · 21-05-2018 02:31PM

VainHard Bendix wrote: »

I think you are 100% right about the dangers of knife in close combat/contact.

However that doesn't really apply to the situation we have here. The Garda didn't feel himself in danger and wasn't in close proximity to the knife man.
He believed he saw two heads in the jeep and saw the knife. Believing the victim about to be stabbed he fired to preserve her life. Now it transpires that there was only one person in the car. However if the Garda genuinely believed he saw two and believed a life was in danger then he was professionally and ethically obliged to fire.

I can't believe they couldn't just shoot the gun out of his hand. I saw John Wayne do it in a movie once, surely the gardai could have done this rather than killing yer man!!!
FFS....

aidoh · 21-05-2018 02:34PM

Considering how grim this news story appears and the fact it's still totally open, I think it'd be more tasteful to leave all the gender-politicking and ACAB sh!te to another thread FFS.

Skylinehead · 21-05-2018 02:35PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Reading back and of course there's posters/links to idiots trying to virtue-signal and/or generalise men everywhere! :rolleyes:

I've only started using Reddit over the last few months really, but one thing Boards could benefit from is their [Agenda Spammer] tag to help cut out/easily identify and thus bypass this nonsense.

It's worrying though how many Irish people seem to be soaking up this US-led shyte. As I said in the the Jordan Peterson thread, the problems of the US are very different to those elsewhere in the West, and I don't understand these attempts to project those problems onto societies/countries/cultures elsewhere.

And here you are continuing the argument, it was dead. Can we stick to the topic please?

wakka12 · 21-05-2018 02:43PM

OscarBluth wrote: »

In the last week, we've had a first year student sexually assaulted and murdered, possibly by someone close in age to her, and a 24 year old abducted by someone with a 'sexual motive' according to the gardai. I don't see what's wrong with investigating how we're raising the men who do this, and if there's a way to intervene earlier.

The 'lone psychopath' argument can be very damaging - ultimately, rates of sexual assault vary hugely throughout the world. There's not some set percentage of people who are evil who do this that can't be changed. There has been a huge upswing in use of very violent porn: I would personally like to see more investigations into the impact this has, if any, and what kind of steps we can take. Our conviction rates for sexual violence are low: if they were higher, would cases like this be less prevalent? The vast majority of people do not commit crimes like this, so what do we know about those who do?

The vast majority of cases like this have male perpetrators. It could be purely to do with their physical size, or it could be something else- either way not acknowledging that, and wondering if there's some way we're failing boys and men that contributes to it, seems pointless.

I get where youre coming from but what do you do?These men,boys, knew full well what they were doing was completely wrong and society completely disapproved of what they were doing, hence why they tried to cover it up. I dont think much could be done to stop a small minority from doing horrible things like this.

Specialun · 21-05-2018 02:44PM

this thread is gone full retard

lambayire · 21-05-2018 02:50PM

Specialun wrote: »

this thread is gone full retard

Same as it ever was!

eviltwin · 21-05-2018 03:02PM

Specialun wrote: »

this thread is gone full retard

They have no respect for the missing woman or her loved ones. It's much more fun to turn her case into a gender war.

Amalgam · 21-05-2018 03:04PM

Specialun wrote: »

this thread is gone full retard

Vote Yes.

CZ 453 · 21-05-2018 03:19PM

Dublin Live on twitter reporting a body found.

Mirror too.

pah · 21-05-2018 03:20PM

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/jastine-valdez-mark-hennessy-14685762

Looks like it's official

iamwhoiam · 21-05-2018 03:22PM

pah wrote: »

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/jastine-valdez-mark-hennessy-14685762

Looks like it's official

The poor girl and her poor family . Of course no one would want this outcome but at least they will know now and be able to grieve and bury her .
RIP Jastine

JaMarcus · 21-05-2018 03:23PM

Ugh. Was hard to see this ending any other way after yesterday's developments unfortunately.

billybonkers · 21-05-2018 03:23PM

A body has been found in the search for missing 24-year-old Jastine Valdez from Enniskerry, Co Wicklow.

Investigators discovered remains next to Pucks Castle golf course, not far from where a purse believed to belond to Jasmine was discovered earlier today.

Gardai have been searching an area in Rathmichael, Co Dublin this morning as part of their investigations into her disappearance.

21-05-2018 03:24PM

From DublinLive

A body has been found in the search for missing 24-year-old Jastine Valdez from Enniskerry, Co Wicklow.

Investigators discovered remains next to Pucks Castle golf course, not far from where a purse believed to belond to Jasmine was discovered earlier today.

Gardai have been searching an area in Rathmichael, Co Dublin this morning as part of their investigations into her disappearance.

Purse found in search for missing Jastine Valdez in Rathmichael
Areas including 'the scalp' and a walk on Killiney Hill remain cordoned off while a Garda helicopter has been combing the area.

It’s understood gardai are searching the area after studying the suspect’s car computer.

The Defence Forces and the Civil Defence are helping with the search.
Gardai issued a statement earlier today looking to speak to anyone who may have noticed suspicious activity in the area of Puckscastle Lane and Kiltiernan Lead Mines, Rathmichael, from 6pm last Saturday 19 May 2018 to 8pm Sunday 20 May 2018.

The statement read: "Gardare looking to speak to any persons who may have observed suspicious activity in the area of Puckscastle Lane and Kiltiernan Lead Mines, Rathmichael, from 6pm last Saturday 19th May 2018 to 8pm Sunday 20th May 2018. Anyone with information, however insignificant should contact Bray Garda Station on 01 6665300, Garda Confidential Line 1 800 666 111 or any Garda Station."

wakka12 · 21-05-2018 03:28PM

Ah lord, such a needless loss of a young life

RIP.

dar_cool · 21-05-2018 03:29PM

Horrible dirty scumbag. Hope he rots in hell

tayto lover · 21-05-2018 03:29PM

Very sad but when he was found yesterday and she was not in the car I feared the worst. He had already ended her life.
RIP little lady.

BoroMan32 · 21-05-2018 03:30PM

Desperate news.

Poor girl, 5ft and slight build, probably looked like more like a teenager/child to that evil scumbag.

The Talking Bread · 21-05-2018 03:30PM

This is the most horrific thing. The poor beautiful young girl with everything in life ahead of her. Her poor poor family.

This case has shook me and never extremely invest my emotions so much. I think it was the fact we were following it all as it went along.

So sad.

Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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