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Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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  • #782
    The Bishop Basher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Dayor Knight wrote: »
    Sorry, buddy. Opinions are not facts.

    Agreed.

    Re-read what I said.

    I'm not speculating about this incident other then to say that if there was any wrongdoing on behalf of AGS it will be covered up.

    The fact that AGS cover up their wrongdoings and mistakes is not an opinion.

    It is a fact.


  • #783
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,501 ✭ [Deleted User]


    chicorytip wrote: »
    Why was it necessary to shoot a man - armed with, as it transpired, a knife - multiple times resulting in his death? Are police marksmen not trained to shoot in order to disable rather than kill? It may well be revealed that this clearly very disturbed individual raped and murdered the woman he abducted but the gardai clearly would not have known if this were the case at the time.

    He's coming at you with a knife. Would you offer him a nice cup of tea?


  • #784
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    chicorytip wrote: »
    It may well be revealed that this clearly very disturbed individual raped and murdered the woman he abducted but the gardai clearly would not have known if this were the case at the time.

    Speculate much?


  • #785
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    I am heartbroken but am so glad her body has been found.

    It would have been so horrific for her family to never have known what happened to her.


    May that beautiful young woman rest in peace.


  • #786
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    billybonkers wrote: »
    Journo friend, a number of personal effects also

    The personal effects were established as found 15 minutes ago.

    Is this 100% true or a guess/gamble. Because this is a public forum where those close to her are privy to and hearing the body has definitely been found is pretty profound


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  • #787
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    He's coming at you with a knife. Would you offer him a nice cup of tea?


    From the reports it looks like he was charging at an unarmed member with a knife.


  • #788
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,888 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Sad end. RIP

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #789
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    The only regret that should come out of the shooting is that the horrible c*nt gets to take the easy way out.


  • #790
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    tretorn wrote: »
    I am heartbroken but am so glad her body has been found.

    It would have been so horrific for her family to never have known what happened to her.


    May that beautiful young woman rest in peace.

    Bit early for this. Nothing has been officially released.


  • #791
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,202 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    chicorytip wrote: »
    Why was it necessary to shoot a man - armed with, as it transpired, a knife - multiple times resulting in his death? Are police marksmen not trained to shoot in order to disable rather than kill? It may well be revealed that this clearly very disturbed individual raped and murdered the woman he abducted but the gardai clearly would not have known if this were the case at the time.

    I take it you've never seen the effects of a Stanley knife?


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  • #792
    brianblaze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭brianblaze


    chicorytip wrote: »
    Why was it necessary to shoot a man - armed with, as it transpired, a knife - multiple times resulting in his death? Are police marksmen not trained to shoot in order to disable rather than kill? It may well be revealed that this clearly very disturbed individual raped and murdered the woman he abducted but the gardai clearly would not have known if this were the case at the time.

    Because this isn't a movie... you discharge a firearm as a final option and it is classed as using deadly force, to kill. If you have cornered someone with a knife capable of maiming or killing someone shoring them in the leg won't deter them from trying to kill.

    In the movies they shoot their hand etc but that isn't feasible in the real world.


  • #793
    billybonkers
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    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    The personal effects were established as found 15 minutes ago.

    Is this 100% true or a guess/gamble. Because this is a public forum where those close to her are privy to and hearing the body has definitely been found is pretty profound

    This is what I have heard, as stated passed on my a journo friend. Happy to edit my post if will cause distress


  • #794
    kingofclay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭kingofclay


    Will I Am Not wrote: »
    The only regret that should come out of the shooting is that the horrible c*nt gets to take the easy way out.

    Yeah, he leaves two families changed forever and they will never get any sort of explanation for this madness. My thoughts are with his wife and kids as well as Jastine and her family.


  • #795
    Mental Mickey
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    billybonkers wrote: »
    Body apparently found in Leadmines

    Source?


  • #796
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    billybonkers wrote: »
    Journo friend, a number of personal effects also


    Indo just saying they found her purse


  • #797
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,834 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    Where she has allegedly been found is only a few minutes from where she was taken.


  • #798
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    chicorytip wrote: »
    Why was it necessary to shoot a man - armed with, as it transpired, a knife - multiple times resulting in his death? Are police marksmen not trained to shoot in order to disable rather than kill?

    Don't think you'll find many people prepared to shed tears over the death of this chap. No sympathy whatsoever.


  • #799
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Mental Mickey wrote: »
    Source?
    billybonkers wrote: »
    Journo friend, a number of personal effects also. Just what was said to me, obviously not released yet.

    Although not official yet, this is the source the poster has given.


  • #800
    Reati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    They won't say body found until family informed. Even the journos will hold the line for a little while out of respect.


  • #801
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    billybonkers wrote: »
    This is what I have heard, as stated passed on my a journo friend. Happy to edit my post if will cause distress

    Please do. There is no other outlet reporting such a huge statement so your journalist friend must be well ahead of the game. Sounds like a "break the news first stab in the dark" to me


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  • #802
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/update-jastine-valdezs-purse-found-at-search-site-in-south-county-dublin-844107.html


    https://twitter.com/NI_ALLO/status/998517778306031616


  • #803
    Amalgam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    As another user suggested, the car computer seems to have delivered information about his whereabouts.


  • #804
    conor05
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭conor05


    May she RIP.

    Her family atleast have her body, though their suffering is only starting.

    A lot of families and kids ruined through one mans actions.

    Hope he goes to hell the rotten c**t!


  • #805
    The Talking Bread
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    Suckit wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/update-jastine-valdezs-purse-found-at-search-site-in-south-county-dublin-844107.html


    https://twitter.com/NI_ALLO/status/998517778306031616

    That news broke 45 minutes ago in fairness


  • #806
    tayto lover
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    Can we wait until it's confirmed please.


  • #807
    vicwatson
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    conor05 wrote: »
    May she RIP.

    Her family atleast have her body, though their suffering is only starting.

    A lot of families and kids ruined through one mans actions.

    Hope he goes to hell the rotten c**t!

    Unconfirmed


  • #808
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    That news broke 45 minutes ago in fairness

    I was posting the updated timeline regarding the speculation of finding a body.

    Hopefully it is rumour. Unconfirmed yet.


  • #809
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    conor05 wrote: »
    May she RIP.

    Her family atleast have her body, though their suffering is only starting.

    A lot of families and kids ruined through one mans actions.

    Hope he goes to hell the rotten c**t!

    You see, here is how one poster's "they found a body" stab in the dark spins out of control. No body has been found yet,


  • #810
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    I'd be willing to bet that some of the people that confronted him before he fled told the Gardaí she was in the car and that was the cause of the confusion about her presence earlier.


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  • #811
    chicorytip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,354 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    brianblaze wrote:
    Because this isn't a movie... you discharge a firearm as a final option and it is classed as using deadly force, to kill. If you have cornered someone with a knife capable of maiming or killing someone shoring them in the leg won't deter them from trying to kill.

    brianblaze wrote:
    In the movies they shoot their hand etc but that isn't feasible in the real world.


    This is nonsense. He is holding a knife as opposed to a high powered firearm. The garda response was disproportionate.


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