Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

thomond2006 · 18-05-2018 12:00PM

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Rumour Ryan Constable to replace Logan?

Agent Ryan.

That would be desperate.

launish116 · 18-05-2018 12:16PM

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Rumour Ryan Constable to replace Logan?

Don’t know to laugh or cry anymore!

awec · 18-05-2018 12:47PM

Ospreys back row will mangle ours. Going to be a tough ask to win this.

launish116 · 18-05-2018 01:08PM

awec wrote: »

Ospreys back row will mangle ours. Going to be a tough ask to win this.

Lost cause!

sydthebeat · 18-05-2018 02:29PM

jaysus that ulster 4-8 looks quite powder puff

Jump_In_Jack · 18-05-2018 02:56PM

Former Former wrote: »

Ulster Rugby team to play Ospreys, Champions Cup play-off, Sunday 20th May, Kingspan Stadium (3.05pm):

(15-9): C Piutau; L Ludik, L Marshall, S McCloskey, J Stockdale, J McPhillips, J Cooney;
(1-8): C Black, R Herring (captain), R Kane, A O'Connor, K Treadwell, R Diack, S Reidy, N Timoney;
Replacements (16-23): J Andrew, A Warwick, T O'Toole, J Regan, C Henry, D Shanahan, D Cave, C Gilroy.

Dangerous looking backline, and speedy 7 and 8, Ulster should look to move the ball wide a lot!

Jump_In_Jack · 18-05-2018 03:02PM

Ospreys forwards look strong from 4 to 8, so it should be an interesting battle if Ulster try to keep the ball in the backs and Ospreys try to keep it in the forwards.

awec · 18-05-2018 03:04PM

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

Dangerous looking backline, and speedy 7 and 8, Ulster should look to move the ball wide a lot!

To move the ball wide effectively you need to get Ospreys defenders busy in the middle of the park, which means forwards punching holes and our backrow cleaning out effectively.

Hard to see this happening. No use going wide if Ospreys are free to just fan out across the field for every defensive phase.

launish116 · 18-05-2018 03:07PM

awec wrote: »

Hard to see this happening. No use going wide if Ospreys are free to just fan out across the field for every defensive phase.

Exactly what they did last time! Only difference being they have Tipuric & Lydiate to aid the cause

molloyjh · 18-05-2018 03:53PM

awec wrote: »

To move the ball wide effectively you need to get Ospreys defenders busy in the middle of the park, which means forwards punching holes and our backrow cleaning out effectively.

Hard to see this happening. No use going wide if Ospreys are free to just fan out across the field for every defensive phase.

Yep, having seen plenty of that behaviour from Leinster in seasons in the not too distant past I can attest to that.

launish116 · 20-05-2018 06:19AM

Bookies have us -4 favourites! Can’t see it somehow.
On other news:
UAFC mentioning Ruan Pienaar had offered to come play 10/coach for 18/19 season rejected by the IRFU.

Jump_In_Jack · 20-05-2018 09:13AM

launish116 wrote: »

Bookies have us -4 favourites! Can’t see it somehow.
On other news:
UAFC mentioning Ruan Pienaar had offered to come play 10/coach for 18/19 season rejected by the IRFU.

If they could make an arrangement that Pienaar could only play 10 when McPhilips is not available then it would have been a good deal.
However if Pienaar were to start all the important matches it wouldn’t be a good deal, need to develop the Irish Qualified players next season, particularly coming into a World Cup.
Would be good to see him as a coach in Ulster soon though.

Eod100 · 20-05-2018 09:22AM

Is this match on TV?

Jump_In_Jack · 20-05-2018 09:30AM

Eod100 wrote: »

Is this match on TV?

Match thread set up for it, it’s on BBC2NI and S4C.

wp_rathead · 20-05-2018 09:38AM

Is this a Pro14 match or a EPCR match?

20-05-2018 09:38AM

wp_rathead wrote: »

Is this a Pro14 match or a EPCR match?

Pro 14

Peregrine · 20-05-2018 05:03PM

Is McPhillips signed for next season?

awec · 20-05-2018 05:09PM

Peregrine wrote: »

Is McPhillips signed for next season?

His contract situation is not very clear.

20-05-2018 05:12PM

awec wrote: »

His contract situation is not very clear.

He thought he was signing an autograph after the away Connacht game, but it turned out it was a pre-contract which he can't get out of.

launish116 · 20-05-2018 07:22PM

awec wrote: »

Peregrine wrote: »

Is McPhillips signed for next season?

His contract situation is not very clear.

You'd like to think he can see his potential in Ulster now? throw cash at him now please.
While your at it, hopefully season tickets ramp up again. Get the cheque book out and start announcing all the signings you've been holding back incase we lost to boost PR.

bilston · 20-05-2018 07:34PM

He doesn't play or celebrate like someone who doesn't plan to be around Ulster for some time to come

Squidgy Black · 20-05-2018 07:38PM

bilston wrote: »

He doesn't play or celebrate like someone who doesn't plan to be around Ulster for some time to come

Dunno about that reasoning, Jordi Murphy had his best season in a long time with Leinster this year and he was leaving.

Could also be playing his best in the hope to win a contract abroad.

But hopefully he does stay, it'd be an absolute shítshow if he does leave.

launish116 · 20-05-2018 08:00PM

Potential Squad next season: (International duty, Academy)

L’Head - Warwick, McCall, Van De Merve, O’Hagan, O’Sullivan
Hooker - Best, Herring, Andrew, MCBurney, McCall, Clarke
T’Head - Kane, O’Toole, Moore, Ah You, Herbst
2^ndRow - Henderson, Treadwell, O’Connor, Dalton, Regan, Browne, McCusker
B/Row - Coetzee, Muprhy, Deysel, Rea Snr, Timoney, Reidy, Ross, Rea Jnr, Henry, Jones, Hall, Dunleavy,
Scrum’H - Cooney, Shanahan, Stewart, Cairns
Out’ ½ - McPhilips, Lowry,
Centres - Payne, McCloskey, Marshall , Cave, Curtis, Hume, Butler
Wings/Fb - Stockdale, Ludik, Gilroy, Addison, Nelson, Lyttle, Busby

Time to get the cheque book out. Priority Outhalf, Loosehead, 2nd Row, Backline. Really expecting a signing to be announced this week? Ulster bound to have something for PR spin for season ticket holders if we had lost.

foxyladyxx · 20-05-2018 08:28PM

Just caught the news and am thrilled that Ulster won today. Super tries from Stockdale and Gilroy.

Congrats. Good to have some positive news from our northern province.

Buer · 20-05-2018 08:36PM

Delighted. European rugby wouldn't be the same without a packed house at Ravenhill on a Friday night on tv. They're going to have their work cut out for them as 4th seeds but they're capable of being in the mix for the knock outs regardless.

But with a pack containing Murphy, Henderson and Coetzee, no team is going to want Ulster as their 4th seed.

Jump_In_Jack · 20-05-2018 09:53PM

Cooney can cover 10, similar to Pienaar.
Also Peter Nelson can cover 10.

Squidgy Black · 20-05-2018 10:09PM

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

Cooney can cover 10, similar to Pienaar.
Also Peter Nelson can cover 10.

Yes but Cooney's also the only decent scrumhalf in the squad, Shanahan is terrible and Stewart is only gone 20 and is quite small.

Saying Nelson can cover 10 is a stretch, he can certainly stand in the 10 spot and that's about it.

bilston · 20-05-2018 10:43PM

launish116 wrote: »

Potential Squad next season: (International duty, Academy)

L’Head - Warwick, McCall, Van De Merve, O’Hagan, O’Sullivan
Hooker - Best, Herring, Andrew, MCBurney, McCall, Clarke
T’Head - Kane, O’Toole, Moore, Ah You, Herbst
2^ndRow - Henderson, Treadwell, O’Connor, Dalton, Regan, Browne, McCusker
B/Row - Coetzee, Muprhy, Deysel, Rea Snr, Timoney, Reidy, Ross, Rea Jnr, Henry, Jones, Hall, Dunleavy,
Scrum’H - Cooney, Shanahan, Stewart, Cairns
Out’ ½ - McPhilips, Lowry,
Centres - Payne, McCloskey, Marshall , Cave, Curtis, Hume, Butler
Wings/Fb - Stockdale, Ludik, Gilroy, Addison, Nelson, Lyttle, Busby

Time to get the cheque book out. Priority Outhalf, Loosehead, 2nd Row, Backline. Really expecting a signing to be announced this week? Ulster bound to have something for PR spin for season ticket holders if we had lost.

We need a LH, and out half and a back three player. I suppose a lot depends on Payne's future.

I've no idea where we will get a LH from but if Carbery doesn't come then I'd be investigating the idea of bringing CL back from Australia if he doesn't make the Qantas team this summer. I'm not sure that the IRFU would sanction it though. But the point is he'd be coming as a 12/15 (I think he can play 15?) who can back up McPhillips at 10, rather than coming to be first choice 10.

To be honest, unless deals have been done, I don't think it will be easy bringing anyone in at this stage.

I'd maybe added Matthew Agnew to the back row options next season, although I don't think he is in the Academy at the moment. Curtis Jnr may be a scrum half option at some stage as Well?

launish116 · 21-05-2018 06:47AM

Bilston agreed! Outhalf, loosehead and back three need strengthened. Even go as far as saying we need a heavylock (Ferreira is the man)

We do have a promising academy presently. If the right balance can be found with maximum meaningful integration we could do well with rotation. Realistically academy players need opportunities to be tested, with an eye on the following season and what positions need further strengthened. Still think incoming season should be expectationless and build are basic squad spine going forward.

I can see Carbery going Munster tbh. Would prefer that as well. McPhilips is improving every game.

stephen_n · 21-05-2018 07:04AM

bilston wrote: »

We need a LH, and out half and a back three player. I suppose a lot depends on Payne's future.

I've no idea where we will get a LH from but if Carbery doesn't come then I'd be investigating the idea of bringing CL back from Australia if he doesn't make the Qantas team this summer. I'm not sure that the IRFU would sanction it though. But the point is he'd be coming as a 12/15 (I think he can play 15?) who can back up McPhillips at 10, rather than coming to be first choice 10.

To be honest, unless deals have been done, I don't think it will be easy bringing anyone in at this stage.

I'd maybe added Matthew Agnew to the back row options next season, although I don't think he is in the Academy at the moment. Curtis Jnr may be a scrum half option at some stage as Well?

Will someone of CL’s standard be prepared to come in as a benchwarmer though?

Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

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