Man with 90 previous convictions defended by family on Facebook

Capt'n Midnight · 17-05-2018 10:15PM

Same guy 2016. Shouldn't really have been out on the streets ?

http://www.donegaldaily.com/2016/07/22/man-who-stole-cider-wine-and-nappies-jailed-for-two-months/

The defendant had an appalling record, and had string of previous convictions, which ranged from theft, robbery, assault, possession of knives and other articles and the unauthorized taking of a car.

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“All the offences he has been guilty of in the past have been alcohol fuelled.”

If you can't rehabilitate someone, then try to deter them and others, if you can't deter then at least keep them off the streets.

Big question - what was he out on bail for ?
And if found guilty what was the sentence for that other offence ?

17-05-2018 10:16PM

Mutant z wrote: »

Why is not paying a TV licence taken more seriously than someone slashing someone else's throat in this country is there any proper justice at all.

It's really not. There's hyperbole and then there's straight up lying. Stupid comment.

I work in the prison system for the last decade and I still don't understand the concept of concurrent sentences. To me, it's basically a commit one crime, get the second one free type of deal. You're actively encouraging a spree of criminality by having them. He'll think to himself ''sure I might as well thump this fella's head in after robbing that other woman's shop down the road, it'll get ran in.'' That's the vernacular they use by the way, ''ran in'', as in concurrent. The defense solicitors actively tell them they'll have X ran in with Y if they admit to it. It's sickening to see such a system. They then return to prison and their mates will say, ''what happened ya in court bro?''. ''Got ran in.'' ''Nice one.'' In other words, off scott free. As I said, sickening.

punisher5112 · 17-05-2018 10:17PM

How come there are no photos of this guy on the news articles???

Happy4all · 17-05-2018 10:22PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

How come there are no photos of this guy on the news articles???

He's not very photogenic

punisher5112 · 17-05-2018 10:24PM

Happy4all wrote: »

He's not very photogenic

No pics from Facebook?

Seems strange no shots as they usually get them at the court.

TerrorFirmer · 17-05-2018 10:34PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

No pics from Facebook?

Seems strange no shots as they usually get them at the court.

Only if there's a photographer assigned. In a local paper like where the article is from, often you'll just have the court report from someone present in court that day, may not have even known in advance this case was to be heard.

Bunny Colvin · 17-05-2018 10:52PM

Unbelievable. 6.5 years, am I reading that right?

That animal should be caged for life. I won't even go into the fact that he had 90 previous convictions. That's 90 offences he's known to have done - how many do you think he's actually committed?

Then at the same time (I'm going to make an educated guess here) he's taking every benefit going and has protection with his ethnicity. Now the taxpayer gets to spend money housing him in prison.

What a pillar of society.

I'm actually raging after reading that.

And fair play to the person who intervened, that was the only positive to take from that article.

Pa8301 · 17-05-2018 10:56PM

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Unbelievable. 6.5 years, am I reading that right?

That animal should be caged for life. I won't even go into the fact that he had 90 previous convictions. That's 90 offences he's known to have done - how many do you think he's actually committed?

Then at the same time (I'm going to make an educated guess here) he's taking every benefit going and has protection with his ethnicity. Now the taxpayer gets to spend money housing him in prison.

What a pillar of society.

I'm actually raging after reading that.

And fair play to the person who intervened, that was the only positive to take from that article.

Should pack him off to Hamsterdam!

Bunny Colvin · 17-05-2018 10:58PM

Pa8301 wrote: »

Should pack him off to Hamsterdam!

He wouldn't last two minutes down the Western.

AllForIt · 17-05-2018 11:19PM

Omackeral wrote: »

It's really not. There's hyperbole and then there's straight up lying. Stupid comment.

I work in the prison system for the last decade and I still don't understand the concept of concurrent sentences. To me, it's basically a commit one crime, get the second one free type of deal. You're actively encouraging a spree of criminality by having them. He'll think to himself ''sure I might as well thump this fella's head in after robbing that other woman's shop down the road, it'll get ran in.'' That's the vernacular they use by the way, ''ran in'', as in concurrent. The defense solicitors actively tell them they'll have X ran in with Y if they admit to it. It's sickening to see such a system. They then return to prison and their mates will say, ''what happened ya in court bro?''. ''Got ran in.'' ''Nice one.'' In other words, off scott free. As I said, sickening.

I get the reason for concurrent sentences. When one act breaks more than one law.

But I am totally against it when it come to physical violence against innocent people where it puts their very lives at risk.

The problem is is that these scumbags, as wrenched humans as they are, know exactly how the law works, and therefore the law is not acting enough as a deterrent for them, when they know they can go on a spree and just be done for all they have done as if it were one crime, singular in terms of the sentence that runs concurrently.

It's a totally outrageous policy and I think it really needs to be looked at on a national and parliamentary level. There is little point in bitching about these things here if noone talks to their politicians about it because it's just going to stay the same forever if we don't do something about it.

punisher5112 · 17-05-2018 11:21PM

Anyone a list of tds emails that would be a good start and get as many as possible to email them.

Noveight · 17-05-2018 11:25PM

I see one of his ilk commented "You'll be out before you know it

" on the Tribune Facebook post.

A person who genuinely holds an attitude like that is incapable of partaking in our society.

UsedToWait · 17-05-2018 11:26PM

AllForIt wrote: »

There is little point in bitching about these things here if noone talks to their politicians about it because it's just going to stay the same forever if we don't do something about it.

Was just coming to ask about this.

Do any political parties / politicians have stated policies of reforming the judicial system in this country?

If there aren't votes in it, then things will stay as they are.
I plan on informing myself about candidates views on law and order before I vote next.

There's an underclass in this country for whom breaking the law is a badge of honour, and violence against innocent people doesn't cost them a thought.

It has to stop.

Hilly Bill · 17-05-2018 11:26PM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Well known name in Galway from members of a certain ethnic community.

Culchies?

17-05-2018 11:45PM

Pa8301 wrote: »

Should pack him off to Hamsterdam!

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

He wouldn't last two minutes down the Western.

Heres Johnny · 17-05-2018 11:48PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

How come there are no photos of this guy on the news articles???

You'd know him if you saw him.
Short legs. Long back. Hasn't washed in a while. Leather jacket. White vest. Four fingers on one hand, 6 on the other.
Smells a bit like cabbage. Looks 25 years older than he really is.

AllForIt · 17-05-2018 11:48PM

UsedToWait wrote: »

Do any political parties / politicians have stated policies of reforming the judicial system in this country?

I haven't a clue, sorry. The political debates in this county as in many other countries seems to be too occupied with the disagreements between political parties on a personal level where real issues get ignored, and the media is hugely responsible for that imo - making a soap opera out of politics.

There's an underclass in this country for whom breaking the law is a badge of honour, and violence against innocent people doesn't cost them a thought.It has to stop.

I totally agree. I will have more to say about this another time because what I find is that ppl from 'disadvantaged' backgrounds are not treated the same as everyone else. Some fluffy lefties regard them like a 'protected race'. Which they actually are.

fritzelly · 18-05-2018 12:13AM

How can a judge say to the victims you are lucky to be alive and the pictures reminded him of mass murderings in Rwanda and then hand down an assault charge - this kind of case should be taken back and retrialled as attempted murder. What were the charges brought against him?
Judges make my blood boil in this country but this particular judge seems to always be very lenient

techdiver · 18-05-2018 07:24AM

fritzelly wrote: »

How can a judge say to the victims you are lucky to be alive and the pictures reminded him of mass murderings in Rwanda and then hand down an assault charge - this kind of case should be taken back and retrialled as attempted murder. What were the charges brought against him?
Judges make my blood boil in this country but this particular judge seems to always be very lenient

Whilst the judge is at fault for the lenient sentence, the DPP are responsible for bringing the charges. In my opinion, the DPP seem to just play the numbers game and are more concerned with conviction numbers rather than risking it all in order to get real justice.

Blazer · 18-05-2018 07:44AM

techdiver wrote: »

Whilst the judge is at fault for the lenient sentence, the DPP are responsible for bringing the charges. In my opinion, the DPP seem to just play the numbers game and are more concerned with conviction numbers rather than risking it all in order to get real justice.

Blame the whole Irish justice system.
The whole gravy train is geared towards the criminals rather then the victims.
For murder it’s practically impossible to get a conviction for which is why you see most cases ending in manslaughter etc.
A highly placed lawyer was asked before why is is so hard to get a murder verdict in this country.
His reasons?
1. It takes so long for the DPP to bring charges to bear while investigating the crime as they are under resourced.
2. The training period for cops is wholly inadequate and doesn’t involve enough training around reporting , questioning witnesses, documenting what they have seen , basic writing skills etc. When a cop is up on the bench and they’re trying to recall what happened last year or 2 years ago it’s easy for a defense lawyer to tear them to pieces as they’re also not given proper training.
I mean 14 weeks training is a farce in reality.
And then we hear this week that over half the force can’t drive a squad car with lights on and making emergency maneuvers due to no training shows you this.

Someone mentioned about polictical parties and their views on justice.
Every single voter should be asking each party their stance on crime and should we get rid of concurrent sentencing which is basically a free crime for scum as one op said.
But the majority of people are too wrapped up on themselves to even bother and invest more time in something like the Alfie Evans case and accusing doctors of murder or coverup rather than what is happening on their doorstep.
Collectively we’re too stupid to look at the big picture and only care about the latest fads or Facebook.
It’s why decisions like Brexit or the abortion referendum should have never been put to people to vote on as all they do is spew complete lies and nonsense to swing other voters. These cases are far too important to be left to people to make a decision on.
It’s the reason we elect politicians, to make decisions for the people with full knowledge of what is involved.

GhostyMcGhost · 18-05-2018 08:10AM

Blazer wrote: »

It’s why decisions like Brexit or the abortion referendum should have never been put to people to vote on as all they do is spew complete lies and nonsense to swing other voters. These cases are far too important to be left to people to make a decision on.
It’s the reason we elect politicians, to make decisions for the people with full knowledge of what is involved.

There's a word for that you know!

Communism

mcko · 18-05-2018 08:20AM

We should start to sterilise the lot of them, they are of no use to society.

Blazer · 18-05-2018 08:30AM

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

There's a word for that you know!

Communism

err no. We have politicians making decisions on a daily basis for us. Its not even close to communism:rolleyes:

Blazer · 18-05-2018 08:31AM

mcko wrote: »

We should start to sterilise the lot of them, they are of no use to society.

I've been saying this for years...anyone with 3 convictions or more should be sterilised and their passport removed from them to prevent them going abroad.

racso1975 · 18-05-2018 08:42AM

Blazer wrote: »

I've been saying this for years...anyone with 3 convictions or more should be sterilised and their passport removed from them to prevent them going abroad.

Amateur......let him go abroad and then take the passport off of them

GhostyMcGhost · 18-05-2018 08:45AM

Blazer wrote: »

err no. We have politicians making decisions on a daily basis for us. Its not even close to communism:rolleyes:

Legislation is certainly different than amending the constitution which is what you propose they have the power to do

Blazer · 18-05-2018 09:10AM

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

Legislation is certainly different than amending the constitution which is what you propose they have the power to do

Would it be any harm?
I know there’s the whole abuse of power etc but seriously after reading all the crap on both sides of the abortion campaign bit especially the NO side and the whole Brexit farce can you really say it’s a good idea to let monumentally stupid people vote on something so serious?

The Crowman · 18-05-2018 09:21AM

fritzelly wrote: »

How can a judge say to the victims you are lucky to be alive and the pictures reminded him of mass murderings in Rwanda and then hand down an assault charge - this kind of case should be taken back and retrialled as attempted murder. What were the charges brought against him?
Judges make my blood boil in this country but this particular judge seems to always be very lenient

You harldly ever hear of anyone charged with attempted murder in this country unless it's a planned gangland shooting. You'd read of cases where someone has survived being stabbed ten times and the charge is usually assault causing harm which seems to be the Irish legal version of what they term GBH in Britain.

GhostyMcGhost · 18-05-2018 09:31AM

Blazer wrote: »

Would it be any harm?
I know there’s the whole abuse of power etc but seriously after reading all the crap on both sides of the abortion campaign bit especially the NO side and the whole Brexit farce can you really say it’s a good idea to let monumentally stupid people vote on something so serious?

Theres a referendum commission but honestly I think they're awfully quiet

The referendum commission should have more power including the ability to pursue blatant lies and even power to postpone a referendum if either side are acting the clowns promoting lies and confusing the electorate

Anyway, specifically for this, while I don't think any sane person could argue for the retention of concurrent sentences I certainly do not trust any government to meddle with the constitution which is what would have to be done

If they can legislate for 3 strikes and your out law, that's fine, because that's what I vote for, but certainly not unlimited power

Alun · 18-05-2018 10:22AM

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

There's a word for that you know!

Communism

No it's called a representative democracy, look it up.

Man with 90 previous convictions defended by family on Facebook

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