Man with 90 previous convictions defended by family on Facebook

wexie

valoren wrote: »

If he goes slashing peoples faces and necks during that period, he'll be in prison again but for a longer time.

But surely it's not 'just' slashing faces and necks?

ie. lesser crimes should be able to put him back in the klink while on probation as well no?

GarIT

This is exactly why I think we need a gauranteed minimum one month sentence per previous conviction at every conviction. If you get your second conviction you must spend at least one month in prison, when you get your 21st conviction you must spend at least 20 months in prison. You could never possibly get past 30 convictions then in a human lifetime.


He has 90 convictions so far and he is still young, so far his average sentence has been less than one month per conviction.

Concurrent sentences should be completely outlawed. If you stab one person you might as well stab 5, it's the same punishment at the moment.

gazzer

I learnt a new work from those Facebook comments

Megan McDonagh Ive nothing against settled ppl some of my friends are actually buffers


BUFFER. I presume it is slang for a settled person

scopper

I'm sorry but this reads more like attempted murder to me, jesus.

Franz Von Peppercorn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I imagine going out with the express intention to murder someone is attempted murder. Mens rea comes into account with serious crimes.

No. All that attempted murder is engaging in an attack that’s likely to kill, that a reasonable person would assume could kill. Intent to kill.

I don’t think this was attempted murder, though.

AlekSmart

the_syco wrote: »

The scrote has 90 previous convictions, so why suspend any of the sentence? Also, concurrent sentences? Why even bother? It's essentially giving him 8 years that he'll never have to do!

It is also an interesting point that Judge McCabe appears to differentiate between the sexes in his sentencing.

The Judge sentenced McDonagh to eight years in prison for the serious assault on the man, and suspended the final 18 months.

He imposed a concurrent four-year sentence for the assault on the woman and a further concurrent four-year sentence for the possession of the knife.

Given that the Irish State's behaviour towards Women has now been proven, in so many ways to be seriously wanting,it should surely be required that Judge McCabe justify,or otherwise explain,the four year difference for the same attack.

A more realistic sentence would have been 8 years on both counts,to run Consecutively,with the 4 years for possession,to be suspended from the date of release.

This savage attack,definitely merited a 16 year tarriff,with the only suspension being made available on the lesser charge.

Sadly,far too many Judges are looking worriedly over their shoulders,at the Court of Appeal and Supreme Court,when deciding upon sentences,when they should be considering only ONE point-The severity of the Crime.

The mindset where knifing two innocent people in public was just a 'mistake' says it all really. Thankfully someone called them up on that...

Relation: Do you not know the meaning of a mistake? We've all made them some worse than others...

Reply: He couldn't learn from his 90 previous mistakes no?

Ineedaname

valoren wrote: »

My understanding is that he is sentenced for 8 years with 18 months suspended, so he'll be out in 6.5 years time but on probation to serve the suspended part. If he goes slashing peoples faces and necks during that period, he'll be in prison again but for a longer time.

You forgot to account for remission so he'll probably be out in 5.

Mutant z

Absolute scum both this man and those who are defending him why we don't impose life sentences in this country i will never know because this guy sure as hell deserves it.

ellejay

Ineedaname wrote: »

You forgot to account for remission so he'll probably be out in 5.

Less Again!

I think every year is actually only 9 months as they get three months off for good behaviour.
Maybe that's with "life" sentencing though

Ineedaname

ellejay wrote: »

Less Again!

I think every year is actually only 9 months as they get three months off for good behaviour.
Maybe that's with "life" sentencing though

Remission is 25%. 25% of 6.5 is 1.6 years off his sentence. That's only a minimum though so realistically he'll probably be out in even less.

Samuel T. Cogley

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

No. All that attempted murder is engaging in an attack that’s likely to kill, that a reasonable person would assume could kill. Intent to kill.

I don’t think this was attempted murder, though.

The intent is to kill or seriously harm, given the sentences this amounted to serious harm. That said S4. Causing Serious Harm carries up to a life sentence anyway.

Mutant z

Why is not paying a TV licence taken more seriously than someone slashing someone else's throat in this country is there any proper justice at all.

Samuel T. Cogley

Mutant z wrote: »

Why is not paying a TV licence taken more seriously than someone slashing someone else's throat in this country is there any proper justice at all.

Fcuk we forgot garlic man.

ballsymchugh

I have to say, i'm disappointed she spelled 'angels' correctly. was fully expecting to see 'angles'

M.T. Cranium

gazzer wrote: »

I learnt a new word from those Facebook comments

Megan McDonagh Ive nothing against settled ppl some of my friends are actually buffers


BUFFER. I presume it is slang for a settled person

Nope, some of her friends perform the useful service of stopping trains from going off the rails, too bad they weren't there for her lot. :pac:

Ulysses Gaze

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Fcuk we forgot garlic man.

And Straw Man

GarIT

AlekSmart wrote: »

Given that the Irish State's behaviour towards Women has now been proven, in so many ways to be seriously wanting,it should surely be required that Judge McCabe justify,or otherwise explain,the four year difference for the same attack.

If the facebook comments are to be believed, life threatening injuries vs non life threating injuries. More hospital time and more intensive medical intervention required for the male victim.

Also according to Facebook, suggesting that it might not be sexism is itself sexism. And also explaining how sentences are partially based on injuries to someone who says "I don't understand the justice system but this is clearly sexism" is mansplaining and sexism.

Mrs OBumble

gazzer wrote: »

I learnt a new work from those Facebook comments

Megan McDonagh Ive nothing against settled ppl some of my friends are actually buffers


BUFFER. I presume it is slang for a settled person

Almost.

Buffer is what travellers call non-travellers.

McDermotX

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Almost.

Buffer is what travellers call non-travellers.

Thought that was mugs.

degsie

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Almost.

Buffer is what travellers call non-travellers.

What others call 'tax payers'

Westernyelp

If you want to say travellers. Why don't you just say travellers?

Peatys

CCTV in the area captured the assault. The footage was shown to McDonagh but he denied at all times that he had been carrying a knife.

Garda Foley said he went to McDonagh’s sister’s house, where McDonagh had been staying at the time, and noticed that a pizza knife was missing from a block of knives in her kitchen. It matched a description of the knife used in the assaults.

I am so smart, smrt

The J Stands for Jay

Wossack wrote: »

concurrent sentencing boils my blood :mad::mad::mad:

Remember kids, if you're going to do a crime make sure you do loads more at the same time. You get the extra ones for free.

GhostyMcGhost

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

McDonagh

Ba da ba ba ba

Froshtbit

Ineedaname wrote: »

http://connachttribune.ie/mugger-jailed-for-pizza-knife-attack-on-couple-at-spanish-arch-009/

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1770673026322265&id=148746965181554

Frank McDonagh from Rahoon, Galway was jailed for 8 years with 18 months suspended after he slashed two people in the head with a pizza knife during an attempted robbery. He had 90 previous convictions and yet his family defend him on Facebook and insist he just made a mistake.

Fair play to the fella who intervened. Could've been a lot worse if he hadn't.

Let me get this straight, he attacked people with a deadly weapon, he had to be forcibly stopped, he was on bail, he denied it and he has 90(!) convictions.

Why wasnt he tried for attempted murder?

The J Stands for Jay

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This line was gas

Quote:
... And I'm sure all commenting on this are perfect never been n court n their life's ðŸ˜

Fair enough, I shouldn't comment because I did jury duty that time.

no.8

Froshtbit wrote:

Let me get this straight, he attacked people with a deadly weapon, he had to be forcibly stopped, he was on bail, he denied it and he has 90(!) convictions.

Froshtbit wrote:

Why wasnt he tried for attempted murder?

I think it will only be until his culture or other upstanding members of society commit genocide..until the sentence matches the crime. Concurrent / suspended sentences equate to no sentence imo

feargale

Years ago an American judge said you need a licence to drive a car, own a tv set or own a dog, but any assole can have a child.

J Mysterio

Ineedaname wrote: »

http://connachttribune.ie/mugger-jailed-for-pizza-knife-attack-on-couple-at-spanish-arch-009/

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1770673026322265&id=148746965181554

Frank McDonagh from Rahoon, Galway was jailed for 8 years with 18 months suspended after he slashed two people in the head with a pizza knife during an attempted robbery. He had 90 previous convictions and yet his family defend him on Facebook and insist he just made a mistake.

Fair play to the fella who intervened. Could've been a lot worse if he hadn't.

Bull**** sentence.