Owning a car in Finglas

Witnessed similar growing up in Clondalkin in the 90's. Scrotes would drive the cars into the primary school wall and burn them, and once even drove one into the Chinese takeaway and burned it, as the owner used to call the guards on the group responsible for hanging around outside his shop. They stoned the fire brigade when they arrived to put it out too, remember the shop car park being covered with roof tiles they used as missiles.

My little sister who would have been 2 or 3 used to be terrified of the screeching tires as we lived on a corner that they liked to handbrake around. Guards were never bothered, a van would usually arrive with the fire brigade to make sure they wouldn't be hassled putting the cars out. Few of the lads responsible met their maker in the canal one new years eve when their stolen car went in and they were too drunk/stoned to get out. Not too many tears were shed I can tell you.

Besides a 24 hour Garda presence or getting the shinners involved, nothing much you can do. These lads don't fear the courts system anyway.

This is the all too consistent result of long term free dole for multi generational layabouts.

Simple as that.

did the guy with the phone not think to use it to call the police?

If the government increased taxes and supplied these people with more facilities and better housing this wouldn't be happening.

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Vote Yes in the upcoming referendum.

It's not these kids that will get aborted.

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

If the community continue to tolerate it, it'll continue to happen.

I think it's more a case of the legal system tolerating it. Who in their right mind is going to draw attention to themselves by confronting these gentlemen, and risk having their windows put in, risk having their car burned out, risk having their kids attacked, etc etc, if all that will come of it is a literal slap on the wrist?

The fact of the matter is, for these lads, there are no consequences for this kind of behavior. They won't serve time. Their social welfare will still be in the post office. The rent for their house will still be heavily subsidized, or even fully payed for. Life goes on.

suicide_circus wrote: »

If the government increased taxes and supplied these people with more facilities and better housing this wouldn't be happening.

I think I'd prefer my taxes to be put to better use, and rather than increasing their quality of life for such behavior, I'd rather such be harshly imprisoned, so that the good people in those areas feel an increase in the quality of life.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

What happens when they arrive?

There would be an ugly transition period but eventually fewer would arrive.

Inviere wrote: »

I think I'd prefer my taxes to be put to better use, and rather than increasing their quality of life for such behavior, I'd rather such be harshly imprisoned, so that the good people in those areas feel an increase in the quality of life.

I would be happy enough to pay higher taxes to fund a big massive new prison and back it up with proper sentencing.

suicide_circus wrote:

There would be an ugly transition period but eventually fewer would arrive.

How can we be certain of this, and what happens if it fails?

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Humans are humans, we re gonna reproduce if we want to, monetising this probably won't change much

We have monetised it, it's called the welfare state. We literally pay people to have children.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

It is well known, that some people have no reaction to serving time for their actions

Well why would they with Playstations, Pool tables, and prisons being veritable creche systems? It's specifically why I mentioned harshly imprisoned, ie, a prison system that is a place that is quite unpleasant to be in. Not in a torturous or pestilent way, but more so, very strict, rigid, and highly, highly, boring - a place where the removal of your freedom actually dawns of you.

our social systems are failing to deal with these complex social problems

I'd agree to a point, but they've been failing with complex social issues for a long, long time. It ain't changing any time soon. Coupled however with a legal system who doesn't really care at all about the victims of crime, and seems more concerned with the harsh upbringing of such gentlemen, we're left with the reality of estates where normal law abiding residents are virtual prisoners in their own homes.

I know imprisonment comes with a large enough bill to the taxpayer, but it's a far easier pill to swallow, than the one that says increasing/diverting taxes for 'better housing' to those terrorizing people. The whole 'everyone just needs more hugs' approach fails just as hard as our current legal system. If we brought reform to our laughable judiciary, our outdated and overstretched prison system, and modernise the Gardai with tasers, bodycams, increased numbers etc...and come down so very hard on the behaviour shown in the video, I'd be willing the bet the social issues would sort themselves out over time.