Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Boilermaker · 12-05-2018 06:04PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

interesting that you mention this. if a footpath is provided, a pedestrian is legally required to use it.

I suspected that was the case but have you the law that states it handy?

magicbastarder · 12-05-2018 06:06PM

i looked for it, closest i could get so far was the ROTR; "If there is a footpath, you must use it"; must is highlighted.

magicbastarder · 12-05-2018 06:19PM

wanted to find it because i'm stubborn; 46 (4) - http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/si/182/made/en/print

(4) Subject to sub-article (5), save when crossing the roadway, a pedestrian shall use a footway if one is provided, and if one is not provided, shall keep as near as possible to the right edge of the roadway.

i'd not realised that walking facing oncoming traffic was in the law, and not just a common sense thing.

Rechuchote · 12-05-2018 06:58PM

brianomc wrote: »

I hate the junction where traffic exits the park near Island Bridge, vehicles shoot out the gate to stop at the edge of the road, which means they cross the cycle lane. If you're motoring along they wont see you until it's too late.

A man was killed on his bicycle just there - there was a ghost bike, I think?

brianomc · 12-05-2018 07:07PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

A man was killed on his bicycle just there - there was a ghost bike, I think?

Yeah, it's still there. I pass it daily, passing by the day after his death and the first few days of the ghost bike being installed really sent a chill down my spine.

Rechuchote · 12-05-2018 07:12PM

You'd kind of think a ghost bike would be a hint to the planners: "Hey, what about taking a look at this piece of infrastructure and designing it better?" But no, not there, and not at the awful humpback Emmet Bridge in Harold's Cross, which really should be razed to canal level along with its vision-blocking hill and replaced with something flat and wide where you can see the way (but with the ability to raise for the very occasional boat that passes there).

tomasrojo · 12-05-2018 07:33PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

wanted to find it because i'm stubborn; 46 (4) - http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/si/182/made/en/print

i'd not realised that walking facing oncoming traffic was in the law, and not just a common sense thing.

I'll happily break this law if the road is veering to the right. Walking blind into blind oncoming traffic is a bad idea.

Type 17 · 12-05-2018 07:34PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

You'd kind of think a ghost bike would be a hint to the planners: "Hey, what about taking a look at this piece of infrastructure and designing it better?"...

You're obviously too young to realise just how pathetic Irish infrastructure planning was/is - in the second half of the 20th century, whenever people were dying like flies at a particular piece of poor infrastructure, it never occurred to local authorities to actually fix/redesign it - instead, they put up a sign to warn people that their nearby piece of infrastructure, that they were in charge of maintaining, was p1ss-poor, and was costing lives...:mad:

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eeeee · 12-05-2018 08:27PM

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Any questions PM me do not respond in thread.

site_owner · 12-05-2018 09:35PM

tomasrojo wrote: »

I'll happily break this law if the road is veering to the right. Walking blind into blind oncoming traffic is a bad idea.

Same with humpback bridges. This law doesn't seem to be very sensible.

Alanstrainor · 12-05-2018 09:41PM

site_owner wrote: »

and a taxi man trying to run me off the road and give me a piece of his mind out his window at malahide.
according to strava i averaged 43kph from portmarnock to malahide and he was barely behind me at all before he started closing in

sorry for the terrible video editing

Yeah feck that. That cycle lane is a complete joke, covered in ****e, your lose right away at the GAA club on ahead and it spits you back onto the road after about 600M.

I've had the taxi wanting to have a word in the same way recently. I blare my Hornit until they go away. It's effective.

What Username Guidelines · 12-05-2018 09:49PM

Down in Wexford a few days and putting a few hundred kilometres (on the car odometer

) travelling around. Great to see the 1.5m signs all over the place, even on very rural roads. Had some young fella in a lowered corolla Tailgating for a few kilometres. I slowed right down at one point to overtake a cyclist, but he just breezed past him without moving out at all and then took his (very poor) opportunity to overtake me too, burnt off into the distance... and right past a speed van.

If you were out for a spin on the R733 near Tintern Abbey today, that guy was a d*ck, but now he’s a d*ck with a fine and points

Fighting Tao · 12-05-2018 09:56PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Down in Wexford a few days and putting a few hundred kilometres (on the car odometer ) travelling around. Great to see the 1.5m signs all over the place, even on very rural roads. Had some young fella in a lowered corolla Tailgating for a few kilometres. I slowed right down at one point to overtake a cyclist, but he just breezed past him without moving out at all and then took his (very poor) opportunity to overtake me too, burnt off into the distance... and right past a speed van.

If you were out for a spin on the R733 near Tintern Abbey today, that guy was a d*ck, but now he’s a d*ck with a fine and points

It's nice to think that there may be some sort of karma. My wife and I were waiting to cross at a pedestrian lights yesterday evening and a radio stations large American truck broke the lights, and turned across in front of us as we got the green man. I just pointed at the lights and the driver started gesticulating at me. Karma hit the driver full force as a Garda was just around the corner standing watching it unfold and pulled him in.

site_owner · 12-05-2018 10:21PM

Heard of a teenager in surgery today. Car overtook him, then squeezed him to avoid oncoming, causing teenager to collide with the rear of the car. Driver apparently made the kid swap details, then left the lad on the side of the road.

Kid had to call his parents for a lift, who brought him to hospital where he had ****ed up his shoulder.

Driver has been ringing the parents to request payment for damage to his car.

Type 17 · 12-05-2018 10:24PM

site_owner wrote: »

Heard of a teenager in surgery today. Car overtook him, then squeezed him to avoid oncoming, causing teenager to collide with the rear of the car. Driver apparently made the kid swap details, then left the lad on the side of the road.

Kid had to call his parents for a lift, who brought him to hospital where he had ****ed up his shoulder.

Driver has been ringing the parents to request payment for damage to his car.

Well, the parents have the driver's details, and their son has suffered a personal injury, so...

Fighting Tao · 12-05-2018 10:25PM

Type 17 wrote: »

Well, the parents have the driver's details, and their son has suffered a personal injury, so...

And te driver left the scene of an accident.

12-05-2018 10:26PM

Jesus wept I've heard it all now :mad:

What was the age range was the drive as a matter of interest?

Alanstrainor · 12-05-2018 10:26PM

site_owner wrote: »

Heard of a teenager in surgery today. Car overtook him, then squeezed him to avoid oncoming, causing teenager to collide with the rear of the car. Driver apparently made the kid swap details, then left the lad on the side of the road.

Kid had to call his parents for a lift, who brought him to hospital where he had ****ed up his shoulder.

Driver has been ringing the parents to request payment for damage to his car.

Straight to the gardai with that. Dangerous driving and intimidation etc. Scumbag.

EDIT: Is what the parents should be doing...

Boilermaker · 12-05-2018 10:55PM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Straight to the gardai with that. Dangerous driving and intimidation etc. Scumbag.

EDIT: Is what the parents should be doing...

Well done for jumping to conclusions.

amcalester · 12-05-2018 11:01PM

site_owner wrote: »

close pass Dublin bus today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M2BhWjyLSw

Just to save you the hassle of submitting it to Dublin Bus, here is their stock reply.

The safety of our customers, staff, pedestrians and other road users is our primary concern. We are committed to the highest standards of safety and our Safety Manager monitors and reviews all practices to ensure we provide a safe and efficient service across the network. It is compulsory for all our drivers to attend the annual Road Safety Authority approved Certificate of Professional Competence.

All reports regarding unsafe driving are taken very seriously and investigated thoroughly. From the information you have provided me with I have been able to identify the driver involved. Whatever action is deemed necessary to prevent a recurrence will be taken.

We appreciate our customers letting us know if they have experienced an issue with our services and thank you again for bringing this matter to our attention.

12-05-2018 11:55PM

amcalester wrote: »

Just to save you the hassle of submitting it to Dublin Bus, here is their stock reply.

I lol'd at "We appreciate our customers letting us know if they have experienced an issue with our services and thank you again for bringing this matter to our attention"

Wasn't aware you had to pay for a close pass from a DB , site_owner must have been within leap card scanning range so

Kaisr Sose · 13-05-2018 12:13AM

Boilermaker wrote: »

I suspected that was the case but have you the law that states it handy?

Google is a great place to search for laws, facts and other great stuff.

Kaisr Sose · 13-05-2018 12:17AM

site_owner wrote: »

Heard of a teenager in surgery today. Car overtook him, then squeezed him to avoid oncoming, causing teenager to collide with the rear of the car. Driver apparently made the kid swap details, then left the lad on the side of the road.

Kid had to call his parents for a lift, who brought him to hospital where he had ****ed up his shoulder.

Driver has been ringing the parents to request payment for damage to his car.

Sums it all up. It’s all about the motorist and their previous metal cage.

What a low life!

cython · 13-05-2018 12:19AM

site_owner wrote: »

Heard of a teenager in surgery today. Car overtook him, then squeezed him to avoid oncoming, causing teenager to collide with the rear of the car. Driver apparently made the kid swap details, then left the lad on the side of the road.

Kid had to call his parents for a lift, who brought him to hospital where he had ****ed up his shoulder.

Driver has been ringing the parents to request payment for damage to his car.

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Straight to the gardai with that. Dangerous driving and intimidation etc. Scumbag.

EDIT: Is what the parents should be doing...

Boilermaker wrote: »

Well done for jumping to conclusions.

Perhaps it is just me, but I fail to see the leap in logic that Alanstrainor has made to warrant an accusation of jumping to conclusions? Based on the description available to him (and you and me) in the first quoted post, and the current absence of any contradictory description of the incident, it's a fair assessment and summary.....

Kaisr Sose · 13-05-2018 12:25AM

Boilermaker wrote: »

Well done for jumping to conclusions.

You do realise this is a cycling forum? Based on what was posted, the driver caused the incident. If you don’t get that, then maybe you need to read and learn the rules of the road ? Let the GardaÍ decide the facts based on evidence. In any event, the driver seems to have no moral compass!

Boilermaker · 13-05-2018 12:40AM

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

You do realise this is a cycling forum? Based on what was posted, the driver caused the incident. If you don’t get that, then maybe you need to read and learn the rules of the road ? Let the GardaÍ decide the facts based on evidence. In any event, the driver seems to have no moral compass!

There is two sides to every story, simple as. I wouldn't like any of the recent posters to be on a jury.

Fighting Tao · 13-05-2018 06:56AM

Boilermaker wrote: »

There is two sides to every story, simple as. I wouldn't like any of the recent posters to be on a jury.

The chances of a teenager crashing into a car and doing in their shoulder while the car is overtaking is zero. You know that.

Rechuchote · 13-05-2018 10:25AM

Surely we should be looking for a) the return of the Accident Black Spot notices, with strict rules on when they had to be put up (eg three crashes in the same place over a year), but also b) a law stringently enforced and with large fines for councils who don't obey it, but funding to help them to obey it, which would mandate fixing the cause of the Accident Black Spot within a year of the notice being posted up.

Boilermaker wrote: »

There is two sides to every story, simple as. I wouldn't like any of the recent posters to be on a jury.

There are indeed two sides to every story, but sometimes those two sides are the right one and the wrong one!

RacoonQueen · 13-05-2018 03:32PM

Boilermaker wrote: »

There is two sides to every story, simple as. I wouldn't like any of the recent posters to be on a jury.

I hope the mods let us keep you. You might be fun to play with.

Boilermaker · 13-05-2018 03:58PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

The chances of a teenager crashing into a car and doing in their shoulder while the car is overtaking is zero. You know that.

Was the bike functioning properly? I heard of a case where a cyclist hit into the side of a car when they were going down a hill, the car breaked to turn but the cyclist did not have functioning breaks.
Had the insurance known the bike didn't have functioning breaks, I'm sure the wouldn't have paid out for the injuries which were substantial.

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