Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

ED E

https://twitter.com/CitizenW0lf/status/995966000817496064

buffalo

Emmet Chubby Memory wrote: »

Why is it ridiculous and not fit for purpose? I cycle on it regularly. It is well marked, flat as a pancake and generally empty of pedestrians.

It also provides a small relief for eager beavers that want to over take you as per your own video.

I'm not that familiar with the area so I used it yesterday. I went back to the road when I met a man walking his dog with the lead stretched across the width of the path who seemed completely indifferent to my approach. There were also two women walking prams side by side, and a car pulled in across the path at the entrance to the housing estate.

Even if it were completely empty, a cyclist on that track must yield to the access road for the housing estate, and again when rejoining the road. It also terminates at a pedestrian crossing where there may be people waiting and impeding progress, and it stops just short of the road, so you should legally dismount. That's not a well-designed track.

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ED E wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CitizenW0lf/status/995966000817496064

"you didn't indicate you were going straight"

cdaly_

site_owner wrote: »

i generally feel that drivers are a bit more cautious when they see the trailer. but not always.
i have a 2 and a 5 year old in there, its school run time, i just want to get my kids to school.

at a junction, into oncoming traffic, straight into a pinch point.

Take the lane there. I usually do so from the traffic lights until past the pinch point.

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

Pedestrians are always a problem on any cycle lane that is level with the footpath, it is not unique to this cycle lane.

While i absolutely agree it is not a well designed cycle lane, and most lanes in North Dublin are p*ss poor, having to rejoin the road or having your progress slowed a little is not an excuse to not bother to use the lane. Traffic on that road is never particularly heavy except for the odd sunny weekend. I do not use certain cycle lanes for safety reasons (poorly surfaced etc) and I get the odd beep from vehicles but I fail to see a real safety issue with that particular cycle lane.

buffalo wrote: »

I'm not that familiar with the area so I used it yesterday. I went back to the road when I met a man walking his dog with the lead stretched across the width of the path who seemed completely indifferent to my approach. There were also two women walking prams side by side, and a car pulled in across the path at the entrance to the housing estate.

Even if it were completely empty, a cyclist on that track must yield to the access road for the housing estate, and again when rejoining the road. It also terminates at a pedestrian crossing where there may be people waiting and impeding progress, and it stops just short of the road, so you should legally dismount. That's not a well-designed track.

JazzyJ

Emmet Chubby Memory wrote: »

Why is it ridiculous and not fit for purpose? I cycle on it regularly. It is well marked, flat as a pancake and generally empty of pedestrians.

It also provides a small relief for eager beavers that want to over take you as per your own video.

Stop the video at 8 seconds. Look at the car coming from the side road. Look where the stop line is. Now imagine you're on the bike path doing 43kph coming into that. At 10 seconds, the lane ends with a pedestrian crossing. None of that is safe.

Requirements to be a road planner in this country require a maximum IQ of 50. The lower generally the better. :mad:

Miklos

I'm not one for giving out about other road users generally, most of the time if you give negativity out you get it back but I saw some incredibly stupid and obviously thoughtless behavior out on the roads yesterday.

A choice one was descending at the Featherbeds, it's a tight road to begin with, three cars approaching behind a cyclist climbing the opposite way to me. The first car overtakes no problem but the next two blindly follow without any consideration for whats coming down the road. I had to swerve in what little bit of road I had left to avoid the wing mirror of the last car!

It always baffles me the way motorists can behave up there, if you're in such a hurry why did you take the longest possible route?!

buffalo

Emmet Chubby Memory wrote: »

Pedestrians are always a problem on any cycle lane that is level with the footpath, it is not unique to this cycle lane.

While i absolutely agree it is not a well designed cycle lane, and most lanes in North Dublin are p*ss poor, having to rejoin the road or having your progress slowed a little is not an excuse to not bother to use the lane. Traffic on that road is never particularly heavy except for the odd sunny weekend. I do not use certain cycle lanes for safety reasons (poorly surfaced etc) and I get the odd beep from vehicles but I fail to see a real safety issue with that particular cycle lane.

I don't need an excuse to not use the lane, it's a choice.

You can continue to choose to use it, and I will choose to not use it from now on. There is no need for anybody to justify their choices if they don't want to, and there is certainly no reason for other road users to abuse or intimidate somebody for their choice.

xckjoo

buffalo wrote: »

I don't need an excuse to not use the lane, it's a choice.

You can continue to choose to use it, and I will choose to not use it from now on. There is no need for anybody to justify their choices if they don't want to, and there is certainly no reason for other road users to abuse or intimidate somebody for their choice.

It's strange how everyone seems to understand that buses and taxis don't have to drive in the Bus Lane if they don't want to, but can't comprehend that bicycles might be able to leave cycles lanes.



I assume they're not required to use the lanes anyway. I never thought to get annoyed at seeing them outside it.

Ray Bloody Purchase

xckjoo wrote: »

It's strange how everyone seems to understand that buses and taxis don't have to drive in the Bus Lane if they don't want to, but can't comprehend that bicycles might be able to leave cycles lanes.



I assume they're not required to use the lanes anyway. I never thought to get annoyed at seeing them outside it.

Some people are just annoyed to see cyclists, regardless of whether they are in a lane or not. They're just looking for an excuse.

Duckjob

site_owner wrote: »

i generally feel that drivers are a bit more cautious when they see the trailer. but not always.
i have a 2 and a 5 year old in there, its school run time, i just want to get my kids to school.

at a junction, into oncoming traffic, straight into a pinch point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjrngNipFFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SseBWxa7sR8

I can normally keep my cool in most situations of me being put at risk by idiots on the road, but them putting my daughter at risk is one thing that I know could incite me to violent acts in a millisecond. For that reason, I deliberately avoid having her out with me anywhere we would be likely to encounter these cretins.

neris

site_owner wrote: »

i generally feel that drivers are a bit more cautious when they see the trailer. but not always.
i have a 2 and a 5 year old in there, its school run time, i just want to get my kids to school.

at a junction, into oncoming traffic, straight into a pinch point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjrngNipFFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SseBWxa7sR8

Thst junctions a pain the backside since they put the filter lights.

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Duckjob wrote: »

I can normally keep my cool in most situations of me being put at risk by idiots on the road, but them putting my daughter at risk is one thing that I know could incite me to violent acts in a millisecond. For that reason, I deliberately avoid having her out with me anywhere we would be likely to encounter these cretins.

It's an odd one, isnt it? I recently got a hamax seat for my 2 year old and she absolutely loves being out on the bike, but I'm in a completely different mindset when she's with me as opposed to commuting on my own.

Reminds me of the guy on the late late describing how he gave a bike with trailer lots of space but was shocked to see afterwards there was tools in the trailer as opposed to a child - as if he had wasted his time and considered the cyclist's safety irrelevant. My first reaction was "why should he act different in any way", but I too am a completely different cyclist with her on the bike, which now makes me think about self-preservation a bit more and wonder why I'm not as cautious when alone. I'm not wreckless of course, and it's safer (and easier) to pick up a bit of pace without her, but interesting nonetheless

Kaisr Sose

CramCycle wrote: »

I would say that and move out, they think you are indicating if they don't understand and hopefully won't go for the overtake

I had started to do that two weeks as an experiment ( I was getting way too many close and dangerous passes). It works. I would say some of the drivers get a real shock you are pulling out and it turns the tables on them. Prior that that, as far as they are concerned, it’s their private road....

#suchagoodfeeling

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Had a van driver go through a red light this morning at fruit market, not paying attention at all. He was slow moving, not a near miss, but I shouted at him. And then again. And then again. And again. And nothing. Saw red, slapped the side of the van. No reaction. Another shout. Finally got his attention and he was all apologies. Sun was in his eyes, he didn't see me.

More surprisingly, some fat pr*ck on a fork lift, who had gone through the orange light in front of the van, had decided to pull a U-Turn and come back to interject with "he had the light". Somehow this guy knew that the van behind him had a green light and felt the need to come to the defence of a poor van driver he didn't know. Obviously I was a little riled up at this stage as I shouted "You're not involved, f*ck off"

All the shouting attracted some onlookers, and once again someone not involved decides to tell me as I rode away that I shouldnt be cycling with headphones as "you can't hear drivers beeping at you". I wish they were turned up louder and I hadnt heard them, that statement is so utterly stupid.

I'm gonna be in a bad mood all day now.

Vel

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Had a van driver go through a red light this morning at fruit market, not paying attention at all. He was slow moving, not a near miss, but I shouted at him. And then again. And then again. And again. And nothing. Saw red, slapped the side of the van. No reaction. Another shout. Finally got his attention and he was all apologies. Sun was in his eyes, he didn't see me.

More surprisingly, some fat pr*ck on a fork lift, who had gone through the orange light in front of the van, had decided to pull a U-Turn and come back to interject with "he had the light". Somehow this guy knew that the van behind him had a green light and felt the need to come to the defence of a poor van driver he didn't know. Obviously I was a little riled up at this stage as I shouted "You're not involved, f*ck off"

All the shouting attracted some onlookers, and once again someone not involved decides to tell me as I rode away that I shouldnt be cycling with headphones as "you can't hear drivers beeping at you". I wish they were turned up louder and I hadnt heard them, that statement is so utterly stupid.

I'm gonna be in a bad mood all day now.

URGH.

I hate encounters like that that you can't help but dwell on.

Just remember, they are the d*cks!

Vel

Cycling through Ranelagh yesterday evening, and the car ahead suddenly veers into the cycle lane. Luckily I was well back. As I passed I looked in to see a young lad of about 18 with no hands on the wheel at all having a great laugh with his passenger as they both looked at their phones. White car with a red logo branded with 'Dooleys' I think. Looked online but couldn't find such a company.

They were probably texting each other rather than speaking, such is life these days!!!

average_runner

Vel wrote: »

Cycling through Ranelagh yesterday evening, and the car ahead suddenly veers into the cycle lane. Luckily I was well back. As I passed I looked in to see a young lad of about 18 with no hands on the wheel at all having a great laugh with his passenger as they both looked at their phones. White car with a red logo branded with 'Dooleys' I think. Looked online but couldn't find such a company.

They were probably texting each other rather than speaking, such is life these days!!!

Just did a 5 sec search, first thing that appears when you type Dooley's in, is a car rental company in Dublin!

Vel

average_runner wrote: »

Just did a 5 sec search, first thing that appears when you type Dooley's in, is a car rental company in Dublin!

Yeah I saw that but his branding is completely different!

Rechuchote

Dooley Windows? Dooley Architects? Dooleys of Edmonstown? Hang down your head, Tom Dooley?

rodneyTrotter.

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Had a van driver go through a red light this morning at fruit market, not paying attention at all. He was slow moving, not a near miss, but I shouted at him. And then again. And then again. And again. And nothing. Saw red, slapped the side of the van. No reaction. Another shout. Finally got his attention and he was all apologies. Sun was in his eyes, he didn't see me.

More surprisingly, some fat pr*ck on a fork lift, who had gone through the orange light in front of the van, had decided to pull a U-Turn and come back to interject with "he had the light". Somehow this guy knew that the van behind him had a green light and felt the need to come to the defence of a poor van driver he didn't know. Obviously I was a little riled up at this stage as I shouted "You're not involved, f*ck off"

All the shouting attracted some onlookers, and once again someone not involved decides to tell me as I rode away that I shouldnt be cycling with headphones as "you can't hear drivers beeping at you". I wish they were turned up louder and I hadnt heard them, that statement is so utterly stupid.

I'm gonna be in a bad mood all day now.

Jesus , you really know you’re having a bad day on a bike when a fat pr*ck on a forklift chases you up the road to give you a mouthful .

papu

So many examples of RLJ and box blocking from my commute.
This one from yesterday was particularly bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC6KR_itB9A

average_runner

papu wrote: »

So many examples of RLJ and box blocking from my commute.
This one from yesterday was particularly bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC6KR_itB9A

I run that route often and cars constantly break the lights as there is 5 second delay between one is red and the other goes green.

Fighting Tao

average_runner wrote: »

I run that route often and cars constantly break the lights as there is 5 second delay between one is red and the other goes green.

5 seconds seems like a lifetime when in a car.

Kaisr Sose

Fighting Tao wrote: »

5 seconds seems like a lifetime when in a car.

1 - - - 2 - - - 3 - - - 4 - - - 5

Yep...and eternity.

Tonight at Leopardstown I seen vehicles stop at red, only to decide to go again and clearly cross a junction with the red lamp lit. One vehicle was a HGV (skip collection vehicle), and it along with about 5 other vehicles, all went through a pedestrian crossing that had a lamp lit Green, just to stop on the other side at another red light...

...just another abnormally normal sight on our roads

AndrewJRenko

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Had a van driver go through a red light this morning at fruit market, not paying attention at all. He was slow moving, not a near miss, but I shouted at him. And then again. And then again. And again. And nothing. Saw red, slapped the side of the van. No reaction. Another shout. Finally got his attention and he was all apologies. Sun was in his eyes, he didn't see me.

More surprisingly, some fat pr*ck on a fork lift, who had gone through the orange light in front of the van, had decided to pull a U-Turn and come back to interject with "he had the light". Somehow this guy knew that the van behind him had a green light and felt the need to come to the defence of a poor van driver he didn't know. Obviously I was a little riled up at this stage as I shouted "You're not involved, f*ck off"

All the shouting attracted some onlookers, and once again someone not involved decides to tell me as I rode away that I shouldnt be cycling with headphones as "you can't hear drivers beeping at you". I wish they were turned up louder and I hadnt heard them, that statement is so utterly stupid.

I'm gonna be in a bad mood all day now.

Must have been a full moon or something today. I stopped to ask one guy why he pulled out across the cycle lane, blocking the bike lane, just as three cyclists (two in hi-vis) came along from his right. An elderly gent walking past couldn't resist saying some nonsense about cyclists and red lights. I asked him if he saw me breaking red lights, and when he said he did, I told him he was a liar.

nialljf

The numpties were out today in Brussels. First up was a guy speeding up to try and overtake me before a roundabout when he didn't have enough time to do so. When I looked at him and entered the roundabout first, he rolled his window down and shouted something after me.

Then, as I was turning onto a street from the main road, I go into the path of a motorbike waiting at junction to join main road, forcing him to wait for me to pass. Motorcyclist revved his engine in threatening fashion and mouthed off something.

Finally, a guy pulled out from another street straight in front of me, and we had one of those long stare-offs, and he beeped at me as he was driving away.

They are unbelievable here. No respect for other people on the roads, and they never want to admit fault. I don't even know if they realise what they're doing...

Steoller

nialljf wrote: »

The numpties were out today in Brussels. First up was a guy speeding up to try and overtake me before a roundabout when he didn't have enough time to do so. When I looked at him and entered the roundabout first, he rolled his window down and shouted something after me.

Then, as I was turning onto a street from the main road, I go into the path of a motorbike waiting at junction to join main road, forcing him to wait for me to pass. Motorcyclist revved his engine in threatening fashion and mouthed off something.

Finally, a guy pulled out from another street straight in front of me, and we had one of those long stare-offs, and he beeped at me as he was driving away.

They are unbelievable here. No respect for other people on the roads, and they never want to admit fault. I don't even know if they realise what they're doing...

The most dangerous piece of driving I have ever seen in my life was on the Motorway outside Brussels. Three lanes of traffic, all doing 130 or so, all barely giving room, as they do over there, and merging in gaps the width of their car. 
Then to top it off, this lad in an Audi comes rattling up the hard shoulder, doing at least 30km more than everyone else, weaves from the hard shoulder to the left-most lane, and then back again as he speeds on, never touched an indicator or a brake. And no-one around me seemed in the least bit surprised.

check_six

I wonder if that Audi lad is any relation to the Audi fellow I saw yesterday. A van is just ahead of me and it starts to slow as it approaches a right turn for a building supplies yard. Audi dude behind me decides that *now* is a good time to overtake the van *on the right* :eek::eek:

Not smart Audi dude. Not smart at all. A lot of screeching brakes and disaster was averted. Just.

Bear in mind that this was all on the way into a junction with a variety of sequences, so no advantage to be gained overtaking at this point at all (even if it didn't nearly cause a crash). I wonder sometimes how far ahead some people are planning as they tootle around. I'm thinking some people don't think further than the end of their bonnet at best.

site_owner

not me today, but i thought the kid coming through the junction was given hardly any room by the BMW turning left. at least they didnt overtake him, but i reckon they might have if the minivan hadnt been in front seeing how close they were to his back wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VltlvHypb1k