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Volcanoes and their influence on our climate

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    December 18, 2017:
    The Trump administration has dropped climate change from a list of global threats in a new national security strategy...


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    Good source: Stocker, T.F., et al., Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    "Volcanic eruptions are an important natural cause of climate change on many timescales. A new capability to predict the climatic response to a large tropical eruption for the succeeding 2 years will prove valuable to society."

    Source: Alan Robock, Volcanic eruptions and climate, Reviews of Geophysics, May 2000.


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    Any relationship between climate change leading to polar ice caps melt and increased volcanic activity? Or are they independent?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Grand site for USGS updates on volcano effects.


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    Kilauea Volcano continues to erupt January 3, 1983 to present. Noxious sulfur dioxide gas and other pollutants emitted from Kilauea Volcano on the Island of Hawaii react with oxygen and atmospheric moisture to produce volcanic smog and acid rain.


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    Vent contributes to atmosphere. 220px-Rainbow_and_eruption_of_Halema%60uma%60u_vent_at_Kilauea.jpg


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    "The reanalysis of a 1958 experiment suggests that volcanic eruptions may have spawned the amino acids that contributed to the rise of life on earth." Hannah Waters, Volcanic origin of proteins? The Scientist, March 21, 2011.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,515 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I apologise for the lack of updates, I really do. However, these IMTs are taking forever to calculate. I've now calculated back to 1965. After I have done all the calculating on them, I will start the comparing and researching for volcanic eruptions that occurred.

    If you guys have any questions regarding the research project, feel free to throw them at me.

    You have found some quite interesting links Fathom by the way, I appreciate you trying to help by posting them here. :)


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Slightly OT and more to do with the impact that Volcanos have on human activities but the Netflix documentary "Into the Inferno" with Oscar-nominated filmmaker Werner Herzog journeys into the physical and mythical power of the world's most active volcanoes, I found excellent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    @OP - while it wouldn't be classed as "hard science" if you're looking for Irish weather reports from (well) before records were kept, you might find usable accounts buried in the collection of Irish folklore kept by UCD. Although it's not the "right" way to go about things, once you had a list of candidate eruptions from the 16/17/1800s, you could look for accounts of exceptional weather in the years following those eruptions. You'd be surprised at what the "plain people" noticed and wrote down at the time.


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    @OP - while it wouldn't be classed as "hard science" if you're looking for Irish weather reports from (well) before records were kept, you might find usable accounts buried in the collection of Irish folklore kept by UCD.
    Good source. What about Trinity College Book of Kells and Long Room?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Volcanologists warn world is unprepared for next major eruption:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-02784-7?utm_source=briefing-dy&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20180307

    Interesting article.


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    In terms of volcano influence on climate. From above citation.
    a cataclysmic volcanic disaster since at least 1815, when the eruption of Tambora in Indonesia killed tens of thousands of people and led to a ‘year without a summer’ in Europe and North America. Such world-altering blasts rank at 7 or more on the Volcanic Explosivity Index (VEI) scale of eruptions, which goes to 8.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,515 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I was reading up on Kieran Hickey's PDF on the historical record of cold spells in Ireland as part of Irish Geography Volume 44 Issue 2-3 and came across this part in particular which referenced volcanic eruptions and their effects on cold spells in our part of the world.
    It is apparent from the descriptions of historic cold spells that there is also an important volcanic component to the record. For the year 1023 BC the Annals of the Four Masters state that ‘there was this year a huge snow with a vinious taste from which Oill-finsneachta was so called’ (Britton 1937, p. 7). Oill finsneachta has been translated as wine snow. It is likely that this unusual snow was associated with volcanic fall-out from Iceland, hence the unusual description. Similar descriptions of unusual snow are recorded for 665 BC and 538 BC. It is possible that this is just one event, but equally it could refer to two or three separate events, particularly given the fact that the information was written down long after these events took place.

    The volcanic record from Iceland shows that there were eruptions in all three of these time periods, further supporting the suggestion that these eruptions are the most likely origin of these unusual snows (Hickey 2010).

    Two of the historic cold spells took place as a result of major global volcanic eruptions, and it is very likely that some of the other cold spells prior to AD 1500 may also be as a result of such events. However, the record of volcanic eruptions prior to AD 1500 is very incomplete, deteriorating further as one moves back in time. The role of large scale explosive volcanic eruptions in reducing global temperature, among other effects, is well established (Eddy 1980, Dawson et al.1997, Robock 2000). Their role in previous cold periods is still under investigation (Wohletz 2000).

    http://irishgeography.ie/index.php/irishgeography/article/view/48/49

    As he said and like I also said in the original post of this thread, volcanic eruptions' impacts on global climate is clear and leads to cooling around the world. However, the role of volcanic eruptions on the Irish climate remains a mystery and is the reason why I decided to take out this project. I would like to present case study 1 below on the Mount Pinatubo eruption of 1991.

    Here's some background information on the day of the Mount Pinatubo eruption.

    The Mount Pinatubo eruption of June 15 1991 was the second largest volcanic eruption of the 20th century, only behind the Novarupta eruption of 1912. It was some ten times larger of an eruption than that of Mount St. Helens in 1980. The eruption produced high speed avalanches of hot ash and gas, massive lahar floods as well as massive clouds of superheated volcanic material across hundreds of kilometers.

    The collapse of the summit and the creation of a caldera caused major earthquakes to occur. Typhoon Yuyna struck the Philippines on the same day of the eruption. The typhoon rains helped to obscure the eruption as a result. However, measurements had shown that ash was ejected to 34km high by the most violent phase of the eruption which lasted for about three hours. Pyroclastic surges poured from the summit of the volcano reaching as far as 16km away from their original point. Typhoon rains mixed with the ash deposits causing massive lahars. The volcanic column from the crater covered an area of around 125,000 km squared leaving much of Central Luzon in darkness. Tephra fell over the majority of the South China Sea and ash falls were recorded as far away as Vietnam, Cambodia, Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia.

    The eruption had led to huge damage across the board as you might have guessed including a death toll of 847 people which was not helped by the simultaneous arrival of Typhoon Yuyna.

    The eruption injected significant quantities of aerosols and dust into the stratosphere. Sulfur dioxide oxidised in the atmosphere to produce a haze of sulfuric acid droplets, which gradually spread throughout the stratosphere over the year following the eruption. This was the largest injection of aerosols into the stratosphere since the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883, which I'll look at it in a later date. This very large stratospheric injection resulted in a reduction in the normal amount of sunlight reaching the Earth's surface by about 10%. This in turn led to a decrease in the temperatures of the Northern Hemisphere for a few years with a temperature drop of about 0.5 or 0.6c. This may not seem like a lot at first but it is very extreme because remember, these average drops are considering all countries in the Northern Hemisphere so should not expect a very high deviation.

    NOAA even don't have monthly SST charts for 1991/92 because of volcanic aerosol contamination caused by Mount Pinatubo, see below.

    http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/ocean/sst/monthly_mean_anom.html

    These are the Irish Mean Temperatures (IMTs) for every year from 1985 to 1996. The IMT is the Central England Temperature (CET) counterpart to Ireland basically and every figure here is calculated by me using Met Éireann's historical data and the UK Met Office's data for Northern Ireland. All IMTs are provisional though so are always open to changes and fixes. I found that including these years was the suitable thing to do in this discussion about Mount Pinatubo.

    The years I decided to use specifically to see if there's any cooling going on in Ireland were 1991, 1992 and 1993. As can be seen below, these three years were the coolest since 1987 though not spectacularly cool, in fact, using the 1961-90 averages, they would have been warmer than average years. But they were still cooler than anything from 1988 to 1995. 1996 was a cool year probably because it was the year of solar minimum, same with 1986.

    Summer 1991 was when the eruption occurred so I will only focus on seasons from that point on up until the end of 1993. Summer 1991 was a fairly warm Summer but June 1991 was very cool and it was one of the coldest Junes of the 20th century. September 1991 broke records for warmth at the beginning of the month. October was cooler than average whilst November was close to normal on the cool side. December was anticyclonic but mild and very dull. 1991/92 was a very unusual Winter with mild, very dry and dull conditions persisting during much of it. 1991 had a total of 5 cooler than average months in comparison to 3 months in 1990 and 2 months in 1989.

    March 1992 was mild but very wet. April was cold and very wet. May though was very warm and was the warmest on record for some. June was warm and July started off warm but then went down hill with a rapid deterioration into August bringing the coldest August since 1986. The Autumn of 1992 was very cool too with one of the coldest Octobers on record, perhaps somewhat moderated by a rather mildish November. December though was cool. 1992 had a total of 5 cooler than average months just like 1991.

    1993 started off very mild in January to April but May was cooler than average with a notably cold day on the 14th, a maximum of only 6c at Dublin Airport on this day. Each of the Summer months was cooler than average especially August and the daytime temperatures. These colder than average conditions continued into Autumn - for the second year in a row - with again October 1993 being one of the coldest Octobers on record just like October 1992. November 1993 had some notable early snowfalls and before 2010, they were the most notable early snowfalls for November. December was milder than average. 1993 had a total of 7 cooler than average months. 1993 to no surprise was the coolest year out of the trilogy.

    It seems that after the initial volcanic eruption in June 1991, the number of cooler than average months annually in Ireland increased up to 1993. 1991 was at a time when solar maximum was a thing and just on its way out towards solar minimum in 1996 so cold would struggle to take place in the Winter, just like it did for Solar Cycle 24 with Winters 2013-14 to 2016-17.

    Year|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec|Ann
    1996|6.7|4.5|6.6|8.8|8.9|13.9|15.7|15.6|13.7|11.1|6.5|4.4|9.7
    1995|6.1|6.8|6.7|9.1|11.2|14.4|16.9|18.2|13.3|11.7|8.2|4.1|10.6
    1994|6.2|5.0|7.7|8.1|10.6|12.9|15.5|14.7|12.3|10.2|9.8|6.7|10.0
    1993|6.3|7.3|8.2|9.4|10.4|13.5|14.9|14.5|12.5|8.0|6.6|5.3|9.7
    1992|6.1|6.4|7.9|8.6|12.5|14.5|15.7|14.2|12.2|8.1|7.6|4.8|9.9
    1991|5.0|4.5|7.9|8.6|11.9|11.5|15.9|16.4|14.1|9.2|7.0|6.4|9.9
    1990|6.9|7.0|8.5|8.3|12.4|12.9|16.1|16.7|12.8|10.5|7.0|4.8|10.3
    1989|7.0|6.3|7.8|6.4|12.9|13.8|17.8|16.0|13.1|10.9|7.4|4.9|10.4
    1988|5.9|5.5|7.9|8.9|11.4|14.6|13.5|14.8|12.6|9.9|6.9|7.2|10.0
    1987|4.7|5.2|6.5|9.1|10.9|12.2|15.6|15.8|12.8|8.7|7.1|6.0|9.6
    1986|5.0|-0.5|5.9|5.2|10.1|13.9|15.1|13.1|11.3|10.0|7.7|5.8|8.6
    1985|2.3|5.4|6.7|9.0|10.8|12.6|15.3|13.8|13.9|10.5|4.5|6.4|9.3
    Mean|5.5|5.3|7.1|8.5|11.3|13.7|15.4|15.4|13.0|10.1|7.2|5.6|9.8


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    Oill finsneachta has been translated as wine snow. It is likely that this unusual snow was associated with volcanic fall-out from Iceland
    Wine snow. Interesting expression.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,706 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    Kilauea
    The Kilauea Volcano on Hawaii's Big Island has come to life, belching ash into the sky and spewing fountains of lava in a residential area where people were ordered to leave their homes, officials said.
    ...
    The eruption happened after a series of earthquakes on the island over the last couple of days, including a 5.0 tremor yesterday morning, the US Geological Survey reported on its website.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,706 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    Magnitude 6.9 earthquake among the 200+ others in the area around Kilauea in the past day.
    ... A new fissure opened up just before the latest tremor in one of those neighborhoods, Leilani Estates, about 19km from the volcano, the Hawaii County Civil Defense Agency said, making a total of four found so far.

    Kilauea, one of the world's most active volcanoes and one of five on the island, has been in constant eruption for 35 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,515 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    There's been quite a number of significant eruptions so far this year already and it will be interesting to see if later in the year or next year that we will go into a severe cold spell of some sorts like 2010. Of course, we had the beast from the east as well as his son from 26 February to 2 March and 17-19 March respectively but that was down to a SSW event along with the combination of the MJO phase and weak La Nina, not volcanoes.

    Pulling an 1816 - year without a summer - is highly unlikely here in 2018 given the constant high pressure to the east that keeps reforming itself and well, none of the eruptions we've had come close to the significance of Mount Tambora.

    The research here looks like not being completed this year I think so it's still a heavy work in progress.

    Some interesting posts shared by you guys.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Makes one wonder to what extent the recent Kilauea volcano eruption in Hawaii will affect weather?

    Ref: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/05/us/kilauea-volcano-hawaii-earthquakes/index.html


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    Kilauea volcano eruption in all news. Gases. Climate?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,515 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I had a look at the year of 1879. Using the Central England Temperature (CET) (since I do not have IMT figures for this year and I doubt I ever will because there's far too little information on the year for Ireland), it was a very cold year with every month of that year coming out colder than average, at least in comparison to the 1961-90 averages. In fact, we had to wait until February 1880 to see a warmer than average month and the previous mild month before it was October 1878! You can see every month's CET below along with the anomaly from their respective 1961-90 average in brackets.

    Jan 1879: -0.7 (-4.5)
    Feb 1879: 3.1 (-0.7)
    Mar 1879: 4.7 (-1.0)
    Apr 1879: 5.7 (-2.3)
    May 1879: 8.9 (-2.3)
    Jun 1879: 12.9 (-1.2)
    Jul 1879: 13.6 (-2.5)
    Aug 1879: 14.5 (-1.3)
    Sep 1879: 12.6 (-1.0)
    Oct 1879: 8.9 (-1.7)
    Nov 1879: 4.1 (-2.4)
    Dec 1879: 0.7 (-3.9)

    Data comes from the UK Met Office.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/download.html

    There's some theories that suggest the cold year of 1879 here was caused by the volcanic eruption of Rabaul in Papua New Guinea in 1878. This eruption formed a volcano in the harbour of Rabaul before the place was established as a town.
    Rabaul's proximity to its volcanoes has always been a source of concern. In 1878 before it was established as a town, an eruption formed a volcano in the harbour.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabaul


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    Big Island. Many avoiding evacuation orders. Houses & cars burned.


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    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Satellite imagery. Sulphur dioxide plumes.


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    Hawaii eruption. Expanding fissures. Gas releases increasing. Weather effects?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,706 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    Aviation red alert with ash and volcanic smog 3,000m above the crater and further risk: RTE
    A looming menace remains the possibility of an "explosive eruption" of Kilauea, an event last seen in 1924. Pent-up steam could cause such a blast that would launch a 6,000m ash plume from the crater and spread debris over 20km, according to the USGS.

    There was no evidence of that yesterday, but scientists warned it could happen any time.

    Kilauea is one of the world's most active volcanos and one of five on the island.

    This was from yesterday 15th May
    While residents deal with noxious gas and lava on the ground, the US Geological Survey is concerned that pent-up steam could cause a violent explosive eruption at the volcano crater, launching a 3,000 metre-high plume that could spread debris over 19km.

    Scientists had expected such explosions by the middle of this month as Kilauea's lava lake fell below the water table.

    The possibility exists, however, that water may not be entering the crater, as feared, and gas and steam may be safely venting, scientists said.


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    star gazer wrote: »
    Aviation red alert with ash and volcanic smog 3,000m above the crater and further risk: RTE
    Aviation red alert. Good warning. Volcanic dust damages jet turbines.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Island building hot magma now flowing into the Pacific on Hawaii's Big Island is giving off quite a bit of noxious steam when it hits the ocean. Wondering to what extent such gasses now are affecting the weather? Are there precise measurements yet?


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