Irish church scandal: ‘priest' desecrates altar with gay sex acts(Fake or real news)

One eyed Jack · 06-05-2018 05:39PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'm not 100% but once you don't act on your feelings I think it's okay. It's similar to being heterosexual!

Aye, if gay men were excluded from being eligible to become members of the clergy, the numbers would drop off a cliff :pac:

fin12 · 06-05-2018 05:39PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'm not 100% but once you don't act on your feelings I think it's okay. It's similar to being heterosexual!

But the thing is the Catholic Church thinks it’s a sin so can’t see a priest/bishop who declares themselves as being gay continue in his role with the church?

freshpopcorn · 06-05-2018 05:44PM

fin12 wrote: »

But the thing is the Catholic Church thinks it’s a sin so can’t see a priest/bishop who declares themselves as being gay continue in his role with the church?

In the last few years from what I understand the sin is performing the act!

EdgeCase · 06-05-2018 05:45PM

I wouldn't say the church needs to be reconsecrated, as per the article, but I would suggest maybe giving it a good clean down with Dettol and checking for any odd stains.

ChikiChiki · 06-05-2018 05:48PM

fin12 wrote: »

I just read the article, it says that Bishop Buckley is gay, I don’t understand how is a practicing bishop if he is publicly gay? I don’t really understand the article. I remember a polish catholic priest came out as gay last year but left the church.

Thinking the same. Thought they were married to God or some bolloxology like that?? But then maybe that would make him gay.. He could be gay to God... But then the church doesn't like that.....

Ahhhh I dunno, its all very confusing! *Takes hard swig of whiskey

DubInTheWest · 06-05-2018 05:50PM

I think the majority of priests/bishops are dirty animals. A friend of mine was married by a pedo priest in ballyfermot many years ago. He's still traumatized by it to this day.

A lot of scandals has come out over the years, especially in Dublin but to this day in rural Ireland where the Catholic church still rules I can only imagine what they (priests) are still up to.

fin12 · 06-05-2018 05:51PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Thinking the same. Thought they were married to God or some bolloxology like that?? But then maybe that would make him gay.. He could be gay to God... But then the church doesn't like that.....

Ahhhh I dunno, its all very confusing! *Takes hard swig of whiskey

Haha

suicide_circus · 06-05-2018 05:52PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

This link got forwarded onto to me. Is this real or fake news?

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/irish-church-scandal-priest-desecrates-altar-with-gay-sex-act

That site has the best comment section I've read in years

EdgeCase · 06-05-2018 05:54PM

I don't think you can really generalise about priests, but the whole celibacy thing is weird and actually grossly unfair on them (and on nuns, and others who are subject to it too.)

My view of it is that it should be your human right to form intimate relationships and have the possibility of having a sexual side to your life and also reproduce if you want to.

It's quite weird and very unfair that any organisation would take that right away from people.

You'd think we'd all have moved past the middle ages at this stage.

fin12 · 06-05-2018 05:54PM

This is another horrible story that was in the Dailymail today. Man raped when a child by an Irish nun and got pregnant by him. There’s such sick freaks.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5696759/Emotional-moment-raped-former-choirboy-76-reunited-long-lost-daughter.html

Ken. · 06-05-2018 05:55PM

Mod-Threads merged.

jippo nolan · 06-05-2018 05:55PM

fin12 wrote: »

Ok I didn’t know that, I thought if you declared that you are a gay you would be removed from the church.

Only if they have bouncers on the door!

fin12 · 06-05-2018 05:57PM

So it happened in a church in Cork?

Why is that fella even a priest to that on the altar? He obviously has no respect for the church so why the f*ck is he a priest?

jippo nolan · 06-05-2018 05:57PM

frag420 wrote: »

Like stay away from the ham slicer...she is bad news that one!!

And don’t leave it steeping in the “dishwasher”

One eyed Jack · 06-05-2018 05:58PM

EdgeCase wrote: »

I don't think you can really generalise about priests, but the whole celibacy thing is weird and actually grossly unfair on them (and on nuns, and others who are subject to it too.)

My view of it is that it should be your human right to form intimate relationships and have the possibility of having a sexual side to your life and also reproduce if you want to.

It's quite weird and very unfair that any organisation would take that right away from people.

You'd think we'd all have moved past the middle ages at this stage.

But they choose that life, it's not as though they actually are being denied any human rights.

fin12 · 06-05-2018 06:00PM

EdgeCase wrote: »

I don't think you can really generalise about priests, but the whole celibacy thing is weird and actually grossly unfair on them (and on nuns, and others who are subject to it too.)

My view of it is that it should be your human right to form intimate relationships and have the possibility of having a sexual side to your life and also reproduce if you want to.

It's quite weird and very unfair that any organisation would take that right away from people.

You'd think we'd all have moved past the middle ages at this stage.

But at the end of the day, they choose to become a nun or a priest and know that that means cellabasy so if they can’t handle that, they shouldn’t become one.

EdgeCase · 06-05-2018 06:01PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

But they choose that life, it's not as though they actually are being denied any human rights.

It's an odd one though - I mean if they decide to leave, they could lose their income and their livelihood. Not many employers have that kind of control over their employees.

It all just seems a bit screwed up to me.

fin12 · 06-05-2018 06:03PM

EdgeCase wrote: »

It's an odd one though - I mean if they decide to leave, they could lose their income and their livelihood. Not many employers have that kind of control over their employees.

It all just seems a bit screwed up to me.

How is that different to anyone else leaving a job? You ge5 employment somewhere else. Some of those priests have pretty cushy lives with their big houses.

EdgeCase · 06-05-2018 06:05PM

fin12 wrote: »

How is that different to anyone else leaving a job? You ge5 employment somewhere else. Some of those priests have pretty cushy lives with their big houses.

Because no other job would be allowed to insist you didn't have a love life. It would be law suit territory.

fin12 · 06-05-2018 06:09PM

EdgeCase wrote: »

Because no other job would be allowed to insist you didn't have a love life. It would be law suit territory.

Ya and they know that when entering into the job so I really don’t understand what you are getting at?

And to be honest how many really actually obey that rule????

thesandeman · 06-05-2018 06:13PM

EdgeCase wrote: »

Because no other job would be allowed to insist you didn't have a love life. It would be law suit territory.

Not too long ago civil servants had to leave if they got married.
If two bank officials were in a relationship they were moved to different branches.

EdgeCase · 06-05-2018 06:15PM

thesandeman wrote: »

Not too long ago civil servants had to leave if they got married.
If two bank officials were in a relationship they were moved to different branches.

None of which would be legal now.
That's my point.

Graces7 · 06-05-2018 06:15PM

EdgeCase wrote: »

I don't think you can really generalise about priests, but the whole celibacy thing is weird and actually grossly unfair on them (and on nuns, and others who are subject to it too.)

My view of it is that it should be your human right to form intimate relationships and have the possibility of having a sexual side to your life and also reproduce if you want to.

It's quite weird and very unfair that any organisation would take that right away from people.

You'd think we'd all have moved past the middle ages at this stage.

You have it wrong. Celibacy is not forced on anyone. It is undertaken willingly an voluntarily and with a real purpose.

No one is stopping anyone from marrying etc, if they are not choosing the priesthood or religious life and those who choose that life are fully aware .

Atoms for Peace · 06-05-2018 06:17PM

kneemos wrote: »

Where would an ordinary punter get vestments?
Wouldn't rule out the priest angle.

Not the worst thing that could happen a church.
You could be babtised for example.

What colour were their socks?

fin12 · 06-05-2018 06:20PM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

What colour were their socks?

Very very very very very very very dark navy.

freshpopcorn · 06-05-2018 06:31PM

From local knowledge they were meant to have being to try to keep the priest mentioned in the article off the booze for years!

ChikiChiki · 06-05-2018 06:34PM

Graces7 wrote: »

You have it wrong. Celibacy is not forced on anyone. It is undertaken willingly an voluntarily and with a real purpose.

No one is stopping anyone from marrying etc, if they are not choosing the priesthood or religious life and those who choose that life are fully aware .

What purpose does it serve other than a job requirement? Celibacy is unnatural and I'd say in the case of priests and the Catholic Church has done multitudes more harm than good.

fin12 · 06-05-2018 06:51PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

What purpose does it serve other than a job requirement? Celibacy is unnatural and I'd say in the case of priests and the Catholic Church has done multitudes more harm than good.

Have you ever heard of people being asexual? It’s pretty natural for them.

EdgeCase · 06-05-2018 06:56PM

fin12 wrote: »

Have you ever heard of people being asexual? It’s pretty natural for them.

And, all priests, nuns and other catholic clergy / religious subject to celibacy laws are naturally asexual?

That really doesn't add up.

The rule was introduced to prevent children of clergy inheriting church property originally btw and subsequently became immeshed into he job description for some reason.

It just plays into a very strange view of sexuality.

I don't really think you any organisations should be able to require that of their staff.

And of course it's not voluntary. If they cross the line on that they're facing being thrown out of their job, losing their income and probably their pension, being shunned by their community and colleagues / peers.

So, it is de facto forced.

pleas advice · 06-05-2018 06:58PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

From local knowledge they were meant to have being to try to keep the priest mentioned in the article off the booze for years!

sack me? SACK ME?!? I MADE the RCC

Irish church scandal: ‘priest' desecrates altar with gay sex acts(Fake or real news)

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