Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

unkel · 24-04-2018 02:25AM

I believe it's to do with their model years (USA and Canada). As in MY19 will be ready to order soon, so no point in letting people still order MY18

Not that there is any difference between the cars, LOL, but I guess it's a bit like our 181 and 182 plates

miamee · 24-04-2018 09:42AM

I spotted that on the Hyundai Ioniq Electric Facebook page yesterday alright, a circular to dealers to stop selling MY18 and that possibly some orders for MY18 will not be fulfilled. Those customers will be offered the same deal etc. as the MY18 deal they got but will have to wait for an MY19. That's some wait already when we're only at April 2018.

unkel · 24-04-2018 11:44AM

Nah, you don't get the concept of model years. MY19 does not mean the car will only arrive to the customer in 2019, it could be as early as this summer. Technically a MY19 car could be sold and delivered on 01/01/2018

miamee · 24-04-2018 11:44AM

Ah right, I assumed that meant it was like a 191 here.

Edit - now that I have re-read the document, it does say customers can re-order for MY19 with deliveries beginning in July. Anyway, makes no odds to us lucky enough to be Ioniq owners already!

unkel · 24-04-2018 12:00PM

And FWIW, I spoke to a Hyundai sales manager last week and he reckons they will be able to get more Ioniq EVs this year than they could last year.

Donnelly117 · 24-04-2018 03:02PM

unkel wrote: »

And FWIW, I spoke to a Hyundai sales manager last week and he reckons they will be able to get more Ioniq EVs this year than they could last year.

I spoke to a hyundai dealer in Cork on Friday and he said he couldn't give me an estimated delivery date, he speculated on September :O
He said they couldn't even get one in as a demo! All they have is a brown phev

And a tasty i30N!

unkel · 24-04-2018 09:17PM

Very impressive stuff. Must be a portable 22kW CCS DC charger!

Linky

ELM327 · 25-04-2018 07:53AM

unkel wrote: »

Very impressive stuff. Must be a portable 22kW CCS DC charger!

Linky

Link no work?

Mechatronical · 25-04-2018 10:47PM

I see on Hyundais website the latest BEV Ioniq is quoted to achieve a range of 280Km "depending on driving circumstances". In real world terms what would be the range? Say if your consistently driving on a motorway at 120Kph?

irishgrover · 25-04-2018 11:00PM

Mechatronical wrote: »

I see on Hyundais website the latest BEV Ioniq is quoted to achieve a range of 280Km "depending on driving circumstances". In real world terms what would be the range? Say if your consistently driving on a motorway at 120Kph?

I'd guess about 165 to 175 at constant 120......I'll do my best to do a real world 120kmph test with cruise control on tomorrow morning and report back

Doc el brown · 25-04-2018 11:21PM

irishgrover wrote: »

I'd guess about 165 to 175 at constant 120......I'll do my best to do a real world 120kmph test with cruise control on tomorrow morning and report back

So from a full charge my range differs from 240km to 200km approx as it depends on my previous driving habits. Ioniq uses a Gom (guess ometer) to calculate range. I jave never got mine more than 240 and thats after driving really conservativly for a few days. If you drive at 120kms constantly you will burn more battery energy for sure and have no hope of achieving what the range counter tell you. I just looked at my last drive efficiency where i drove on the m7 m9 from the kill turn to the kilcullen turn at 120kms most of the way and it says 20km per kwh which isnt great.

Ewan Hoosarmi · 26-04-2018 08:19AM

Doc el brown wrote: »

So from a full charge my range differs from 240km to 200km approx as it depends on my previous driving habits. Ioniq uses a Gom (guess ometer) to calculate range. I jave never got mine more than 240 and thats after driving really conservativly for a few days. If you drive at 120kms constantly you will burn more battery energy for sure and have no hope of achieving what the range counter tell you. I just looked at my last drive efficiency where i drove on the m7 m9 from the kill turn to the kilcullen turn at 120kms most of the way and it says 20km per kwh which isnt great.

That's interesting.

When I picked up my car the GOM was at 213. Just off the charger the dealer told me. I've put up a couple of thousand kms at this stage and a full charge shows 213, no matter what way I drive it. My average rate of discharge is 12.9kWh/100kms

Now, when I had a demo for 3 days last year, the GOM showed 230 after a full charge when I collected it, and 240 after a full charge when I was leaving it back. I tested it for 900 kms.

Has Hyundai hobbled the GOM for some reason?

Doc el brown · 26-04-2018 09:19AM

Thats interesting. Having looked on line its similar for most people. If i drive the absolute stones out of it and burn the battery quick I can get something like 160km range on the display

0lddog · 26-04-2018 11:16AM

Doc el brown wrote: »

........ and it says 20km per kwh which isnt great.

I donno, if that was anywhere near for real and not some GOM nonsense I'd be well happy.

As Unkel might say, I drive like Miss Daisy ( or at least how her dog might ) so at that rate I might get 500+ km per charge ?

Must be way to optimistic, no ?

irishgrover · 26-04-2018 07:15PM

irishgrover wrote: »

I'd guess about 165 to 175 at constant 120......I'll do my best to do a real world 120kmph test with cruise control on tomorrow morning and report back

Ok so on the way home I got on motorway at Shannon and got off at Gort. After getting on the motorway and getting to 120 I reset trip and power consumption and set cruise control to 120kph.
With the exception of passing out a couple of cars and forced slowdown due to everyone breaking at sight of guards with hairdryer, I maintained constant speed (via acc)

In total I traveled 24.2 miles in 20 minutes, averaging 75 mph.
This gave an average of 3.7 miles per kWh.

So 3.7 miles per kWh equates to (3.7 * 28) = 103.6 miles range or 167 km range at an average speed of 120kmph on a motorway....

I'll repeat the test next week going in the opposite direction....

The car and driver did not like such sensible driving..... I was going to offer doing same at 110kmph but not sure I could really....

unkel · 26-04-2018 07:21PM

Sounds about right. You'd get a bit more in summer and a bit less in winter. Do note that 120km/h indicated in Ioniq is 115km/h on GPS

Next time set your ACC to 125km/h to reflect a real speed of 120km/h

Fiery mutant · 26-04-2018 07:24PM

My GOM reading have been fairly consistent with the weather conditions. Goes down to about 210 in the winter, and up to 248 in the summer.

Yesterday morning after the overnight charge it read 233. It it’s generally fairly accurate to what I do actually get.

unkel · 26-04-2018 08:54PM

Mine are pretty accurate too. But I will never ever see anything like 248km in summer in mine

Worst this winter was about 170km, best in summer about 220km. But I drive the car very hard, constant hard acceleration and always in sport mode.

5 years bumper to bumper warranty and almost free fuel, right?

irishgrover · 26-04-2018 09:02PM

unkel wrote: »

Mine are pretty accurate too. But I will never ever see anything like 248km in summer in mine

Worst this winter was about 170km, best in summer about 220km. But I drive the car very hard, constant hard acceleration and always in sport mode.

5 years bumper to bumper warranty and almost free fuel, right?

I've only the car a couple of weeks, have done almost 2000 km and have not seen more than 180km in the GOM....... But I'm on open roads 90% of the time, mostly motorway, in sports mode..... Why drive it any other way if you don't need to.....

ELM327 · 01-05-2018 02:19PM

Going to view an Ioniq this evening, have the cash (well in my bank account) to put a deposit on. Hopefully I will be able to add my name to the list of Ioniq owners shortly!

Any questions I should be asking?
I know we only got the one spec here, roughly equal to Uk "Premium" spec, right?

Kangas daddy · 01-05-2018 02:50PM

ELM327 wrote: »

Going to view an Ioniq this evening, have the cash (well in my bank account) to put a deposit on. Hopefully I will be able to add my name to the list of Ioniq owners shortly!

Any questions I should be asking?
I know we only got the one spec here, roughly equal to Uk "Premium" spec, right?

Make sure the dealer puts in writing the Hyundai 5-year warranty! I took a test drive and the proposed deal left that out. When I provided him later a screenshot from HY website including 5-yr service he said he’d make a couple of calls if that was going to ‘sweeten’ the deal. Car felt lovely to drive but with batteries getting larger, going in with a new EV on an already smaller capacity than currently available might be an issue down the line when trading in or selling privately against prob much larger capacities.

KCross · 01-05-2018 02:58PM

ELM327 wrote: »

Going to view an Ioniq this evening, have the cash (well in my bank account) to put a deposit on. Hopefully I will be able to add my name to the list of Ioniq owners shortly!

Any questions I should be asking?

That the full recall list has been carried out. Didnt unkel post that list somewhere?

And Sat nav up to date.

ELM327 · 01-05-2018 03:16PM

Kangas daddy wrote: »

Make sure the dealer puts in writing the Hyundai 5-year warranty! I took a test drive and the proposed deal left that out. When I provided him later a screenshot from HY website including 5-yr service he said he’d make a couple of calls if that was going to ‘sweeten’ the deal. Car felt lovely to drive but with batteries getting larger, going in with a new EV on an already smaller capacity than currently available might be an issue down the line when trading in or selling privately against prob much larger capacities.

I don't think it needs to be put in writing, as per the hyundai website the warranty is transferable. On the Ioniq it's 5 years warranty on the car and 8 years on battery.

The range is 200km, I dont see it depreciating like a stone in the next ~2 years (until the model3 comes out) as there will be nothing else available until 2020 at the earliest.

ELM327 · 01-05-2018 03:16PM

KCross wrote: »

That the full recall list has been carried out. Didnt unkel post that list somewhere?

And Sat nav up to date.

Should the recall work be in the service book I presume?

jeremy_g · 01-05-2018 03:20PM

as far as I know, there is no service book anymore, everything is logged online with Hyundai

Ewan Hoosarmi · 01-05-2018 03:51PM

jeremy_g wrote: »

as far as I know, there is no service book anymore, everything is logged online with Hyundai

A service book was included with my paperwork. The Hyundai system keeps a record of recalls and warranty repairs. On a new car this should be blank, with all past recall issues eradicated before build.

The thing about bigger and bigger batteries will, in my opinion, fade away to a large degree. People will buy the car with the battery they need, just like they won't buy a 5.7L V8 to potter around in. If people need a bigger battery for regular longer runs, they will buy (and pay for) a bigger battery. Don't forget that batteries have to be lugged around wherever you go, and will make their own demands on range.

With faster charging coming in the future, bigger batteries will charge quickly. But that's in the future. Today, the efficient Ioniq is a great balance between range and charge time.

Getting the latest software and maps will be your biggest challenge. Make sure you have a screenshot on your phone of the latest firmware.

ELM327 · 01-05-2018 04:05PM

Ewan Hoosarmi wrote: »

A service book was included with my paperwork. The Hyundai system keeps a record of recalls and warranty repairs. On a new car this should be blank, with all past recall issues eradicated before build.

The thing about bigger and bigger batteries will, in my opinion, fade away to a large degree. People will buy the car with the battery they need, just like they won't buy a 5.7L V8 to potter around in. If people need a bigger battery for regular longer runs, they will buy (and pay for) a bigger battery. Don't forget that batteries have to be lugged around wherever you go, and will make their own demands on range.

With faster charging coming in the future, bigger batteries will charge quickly. But that's in the future. Today, the efficient Ioniq is a great balance between range and charge time.

Getting the latest software and maps will be your biggest challenge. Make sure you have a screenshot on your phone of the latest firmware.

Where would one receive this screenshot?
Agree with the rest of your post.

Ewan Hoosarmi · 01-05-2018 04:13PM

ELM327 wrote: »

Where would one receive this screenshot?
Agree with the rest of your post.

AE_EV.EUR.SOP.005.3.170927
AE_EV.EUR.0.5.222.170920.MICOM
STD_AVN_MID.EUR.HMC.170927.a803344
EUR.10.41.46.701.002.2 (D.D2 / E.D1)

That's the latest software.

ELM327 · 01-05-2018 04:17PM

Ewan Hoosarmi wrote: »

AE_EV.EUR.SOP.005.3.170927
AE_EV.EUR.0.5.222.170920.MICOM
STD_AVN_MID.EUR.HMC.170927.a803344
EUR.10.41.46.701.002.2 (D.D2 / E.D1)

That's the latest software.

Excellent. I shall open this thread later. Cheers.

Where do I check this in the car?

Ewan Hoosarmi · 01-05-2018 04:27PM

ELM327 wrote: »

Excellent. I shall open this thread later. Cheers.

Where do I check this in the car?

Last button on the right under the screen, 'settings', then swipe the screen left and the icon for 'system information' will be there.

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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