The 8th Amendment Part 2 - Mod Warning in OP

Killester1 wrote: »

Igotadose wrote: »

What study was this? Could you send the link? Anybody I know that had an abortion .... regret it to this day and the loss has played havoc with their minds.

Killester1 wrote: »

Of course it is.

No it's not.

The vast majority of abortions happen before 12 weeks.

The ones later than that happen for necessity.

That's what it means.

January wrote: »

I've had an abortion. I don't regret it.

I’m adopted and was given the chance to life........ I have as much right to this life as everyone else.

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You are not a killer.
You are not a murderer.
You are not the one who should feel shame because you did nothing shameful.
Feel disgust for those who put you in that situation.

You are a strong, brave, woman who has survived so much betrayal.

I have to say thank you to you, you words mean a lot especially at a time where it feels like half my own country thinks I am a child killer.
I would like to ask anyone that is undecided or voting no, what would you do if you were me?

NuMarvel wrote: »

And in the previous poll, in December, no was at 27%. So this is very similar to other polls showing that the No side isn't gaining much ground. A 4% rise in four months is not the kind of gains you want after months of campaigning. All the polls show that their support has reached its limits, so it's the Yes side's campaign to win or lose at this point.

And for clarity, the question asked in the previous poll wasn't specifically about repeal, but repeal allowing for up to 12 weeks: Respondents were asked "If a referendum were held to repeal the 8th amendment that is to make abortion unrestricted during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy how would you vote?"

No it is a consistent theme that People who state their position, that Yes has fallen under 50% and the thing is will this trend continue.
Even in the Irish Times today they were on the canvass scene in Cork city with both sides and the conclusion was it could go either way.

Killester1 wrote: »

I’m adopted and was given the chance to life........ I have as much right to this life as everyone else.

Of course you have a right to your life now.

But nobody has a right to be forced into existence. It doesn't make sense.

Back when we banned contraception we would have been able to trot out all sorts of people, the 10th and 11th children in large families for example, who would have been able to say "if contraception had been available I wouldn't exist!". What about all those large families that don't happen any more? Have all those extra children been denied their right to life too? Of course not.

Be grateful to be alive. But remember that the women whose lives are affected by the 8th amendment have a right to life (and health) too you know.
It isn't all about you.

bubblypop wrote: »

My father wanted my mother to have an abortion, she decided against it.
Note, she decided. Had she decided otherwise I would never know.
I support a woman's right to choose.

Can I ask what your father would think now?

RobertKK wrote: »

It is clear for the majority of older people that retain/No is the compassionate position to be on, who some on the Yes side have attacked with ageism comments.
I don’t know you, and it is not my place to judge you as an individual even if I did as to make out I am somehow perfect.
I think yes for compassion is a lie as most of the abortions would be healthy women aborting healthy unborn. I think a lot of older wise people would also see through this Yes slogan lie.

So we're back to "lies" Robert, are we?

Still waiting on those actual lies from the Pro Repeal side.

Simi wrote: »

Sheer utter lies! No matter how restricted the government proposals they'd automatically oppose them without blinking. They opposed the protection of life during pregnancy act ffs!

Plus they've had 35 years to 'find a better solution' for women in crisis pregnancy and yet they haven't. I wonder why that is?

The protection of life during pregnancy bill had the lie that abortion treats a woman who is suicidal.
It is like arguing if the woman was suicidal because she was sexually abused or raped that we must reintroduce the death penalty so the abuser can be killed to treat her suicidal thoughts.