Kate Middleton at 6pm

Bob Harris · 25-04-2018 03:54PM

I know a woman who gave birth in the morning and was drinking ale in her local that evening.
I'm fairly sure it's true as she told me herself.

D Trent · 25-04-2018 03:54PM

https://twitter.com/petercrouch/status/988731713248550912?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet
https://twitter.com/kensingtonroyal/status/988463639811194880

splinter65 · 25-04-2018 03:56PM

_Dara_ wrote: »

I know and it's part of the life she chose so I'm sure she was mentally prepared.

Oh absolutely and she’s done it twice before already so well rehearsed.
She knows what has to be done and she does it.
Every little detail was planned with military precision.

Mackmatic · 25-04-2018 04:00PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I found it juvenile to be honest

It was just a joke. I should have read the room and realised it's full of mostly mammys.

I had a mammy at one stage as well. Meant no disrespect. I'll move along.

_Dara_ · 25-04-2018 04:00PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I found it juvenile to be honest

Well, I guess I don't always think juvenile humour is bad humour!

25-04-2018 04:01PM

splinter65 wrote: »

She put that super human effort into appearing like that for 5 minutes on those steps so the paps can get their snaps and there seems to be an unwritten agreement that once they get that snap and the snap of the older kids coming to see the new baby ( I don’t believe they saw the new baby then either, I think they were brought in the front door and out the back to a waiting car) that the paps will leave them in peace.
I’d take that deal myself.

Why do you think the two older ones weren't brought to see the baby? I'm just really curious about all things royal so I find that interesting

_Dara_ · 25-04-2018 04:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why do you think the two older ones weren't brought to see the baby? I'm just really curious about all things royal so I find that interesting

S'pose it all happened so quick that they thought it might be better to do the introductions in a familiar place?

One eyed Jack · 25-04-2018 04:06PM

splinter65 wrote: »

I don’t think she’s sending any message at all. She was just trying to get out of there and get home under the gaze of a very persistent intrusive press. What she did is the quickest most efficient way for her to achieve that without giving the media the opportunity to get weeks of speculation about how weary/tired/unhappy she looked if she had come out the same as Jane Doe.
This way, the story dies down much quicker, Duchess Kate looks fab etc.
Nothing to see here, move along.

This is what I mean - "Nothing to see here, move along, I woke up like this" :pac:

Neyite · 25-04-2018 04:06PM

_Dara_ wrote: »

S'pose it all happened so quick that they thought it might be better to do the introductions in a familiar place?

They were though - the two kids were papped being brought in to meet their new sibling.

Hector Savage · 25-04-2018 04:14PM

Another little dole scrounger ... great ..

splinter65 · 25-04-2018 04:16PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why do you think the two older ones weren't brought to see the baby? I'm just really curious about all things royal so I find that interesting

I think that she intended to bring the baby home and have a private family relaxed “reveal” in the comfort of their own home. It just didn’t make any sense to bring the children into the strange unfamiliar hospital room at 4pm if she was going to be home anyway at 6.30pm.
I doubt if the two kids even knew mummy wasn’t at home all day.
Just my opinion.
But that shot of him walking the kids in to the hospital is one of the “money shots” for the paps and as I said already they mostly seem to be happy enough to leave the Cambridge’s alone if they get those pics.
Just my own opinion .

splinter65 · 25-04-2018 04:17PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Another little dole scrounger ... great ..

Have you been working in England long then?

meeeeh · 25-04-2018 04:17PM

splinter65 wrote: »

I don’t think she’s sending any message at all. She was just trying to get out of there and get home under the gaze of a very persistent intrusive press. What she did is the quickest most efficient way for her to achieve that without giving the media the opportunity to get weeks of speculation about how weary/tired/unhappy she looked if she had come out the same as Jane Doe.
This way, the story dies down much quicker, Duchess Kate looks fab etc.
Nothing to see here, move along.

This. Not to mention the hospital doesn't need the disruption because of security measures and photographers, onlookers and god knows who. If it was me I'd want to get out as soon as possible into the safety of home. It's not like doctors and nurses and other helpers won't be on hand there. Personally the only thought that crossed my mind was that those big collars don't look any nicer now than they did in nineties.

splinter65 · 25-04-2018 04:20PM

Neyite wrote: »

They were though - the two kids were papped being brought in to meet their new sibling.

That’s what they pretended was happening. I think they went in that front door with daddy and straight out the back door with a nanny to go home and meet their new brother there in comfort and privacy.
It’s all an illusion for the newspapers.

Cushie Butterfield · 25-04-2018 04:34PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I hope you're twelve, or thirteen at a push.

Let’s hope no one ever quotes you out of context. Can’t be too careful these days!

andekwarhola · 25-04-2018 04:46PM

The 'kind of message it sends out' is of little interest to anybody except the weirdos that ponder these things.

AllForIt · 25-04-2018 04:55PM

I though the royal family were trying to do things differently. How someone in their marketing department didn't think it wouldn't go down well if she came out looking like she just arrived back home from a sunshine holiday I don't know.

25-04-2018 04:57PM

Imagine the kerfuffle if she’s hobbled out in her jimjams, dressing gown and slippers? Childbirth is painful, yes. But hormones take over once you’ve got your precious bundle in your arms and all pain disappears.

Gerry T · 25-04-2018 04:59PM

Putinbot wrote:

My friends wife gave birth to their 5th child just over a year ago. Max was born about 6am and she was home that day by 4pm. Nowadays they boot you out the same day if baby is born before midday. They only keep you if your a first timer or there is something wrong with you or the baby.

You don't give birth to no 5, they just fall out.

_Dara_ · 25-04-2018 05:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Imagine the kerfuffle if she’s hobbled out in her jimjams, dressing gown and slippers?

It's hardly either or, is it?

meeeeh · 25-04-2018 05:56PM

AllForIt wrote: »

I though the royal family were trying to do things differently. How someone in their marketing department didn't think it wouldn't go down well if she came out looking like she just arrived back home from a sunshine holiday I don't know.

Whatever they would do it wouldn't go down well with someone. Someone will complain and you could do worse than being criticised because you look too well.

I don't care about royal family, I think monarchy now days makes sense only as tourist attraction and is completely outdated. But I wouldn't want to live in the (otherwise privliged) world where every moment of your life is scrutinised and judged. Who cares why she left the hospital on the same day spotting nice bouncy blow dry. They have their own reasons as has every other woman who leaves maternity ward whenever she does. There is no rulebook on when you should go home and how you should look like.

_Dara_ · 25-04-2018 06:09PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Whatever they would do it wouldn't go down well with someone. Someone will complain and you could do worse than being criticised because you look too well.

I don't think there'd be much commentary if she had stayed the night or a few hours longer.

meeeeh wrote: »

I don't care about royal family, I think monarchy now days makes sense only as tourist attraction and is completely outdated. But I wouldn't want to live in the (otherwise privliged) world where every moment of your life is scrutinised and judged.

I know. If I was British, I would not be a Royalist. It's a mad life. And all corners of the media, whatever their leanings, are OBSESSED with the Royal family. All so deferential. It's weird.

25-04-2018 06:11PM

I'm sure she'd have been waving on those steps within an hour if she'd been able, and gotten all the photo-ops and PR out of the way so she could get out of dodge asap and home to enjoy a bit of private family time. I completely understand why she'd be keen to get it all done so she didn't have to think about any of it for a while. The worlds press was outside with multitudes of Royal Family fans, waiting for a glimpse of the new baby and they weren't going to leave them alone until they got it. She can put on her pj's and have a hormonal breakdown in her own place in peace and quiet now, like everyone else.

It doesn't send any message to anyone, unless there are other Duchesses out there about to give birth to someone single digits in line to the throne, watching Kates every move for cues on how it's done.

ETA, she looked great, but it's not a personal affront to anyone without a glam squad waiting in the wings, just an occupational expectation.

Purple Mountain · 25-04-2018 07:03PM

What I think would be the kind thing to do is let her go home the back door in a tinted car in peace. There's no need for the expectation of the world to see a baby not even half a day old.
That time is for mother father and baby.
Everyone else can sod off.
They should be allowed to go a brief photo opportunity outside Kensington a few days later.
It's pretty disgusting the world's media vying for a photo of a woman just out of the labour ward.
Take the onus off her to look immaculate and if it's a few days later then people won't feel irked by how she looked leaving hospital. I think it's perverse anyhow!

25-04-2018 07:15PM

I had to laugh at some newspapers getting lip readers in to let their readers know what the Royal duo said as they waved!!

25-04-2018 07:16PM

Purple Mountain wrote: »

What I think would be the kind thing to do is let her go home the back door in a tinted car in peace. There's no need for the expectation of the world to see a baby not even half a day old.
That time is for mother father and baby.
Everyone else can sod off.
They should be allowed to go a brief photo opportunity outside Kensington a few days later.
It's pretty disgusting the world's media vying for a photo of a woman just out of the labour ward.
Take the onus off her to look immaculate and if it's a few days later then people won't feel irked by how she looked leaving hospital. I think it's perverse anyhow!

Totally agree with you, but it comes with the celebrity territory and with the RF in particular the British public feel a sense of ownership and involvement that is hard to understand (and I'm a Brit).

People shouldn't be irked by this, she has expectations and resources beyond what almost all the rest of the world have and their lives don't have to take any cues from hers.

Whispered · 25-04-2018 07:18PM

I looked better immediately after having my baba than a week after when the lack of sleep and pnd kicked in. I had an emergency section so couldn't leave for days. Had they told me to walk over hot coals and take my stitches out myself with a pair of tweezers before they'd let me out I would have managed it. Never mind stand in heels for a few minutes.
I'd imagine when you already have babies at home that desperation to leave the hospital is even stronger.

I think that she left so soon comes across as very practical and motherly. "Let's get this out of the way so I can get home with the kids and enjoy it."

HappyAsLarE · 25-04-2018 07:26PM

Giving birth is so easy that even half the population can do it

Franz Von Peppercorn · 25-04-2018 07:46PM

....... wrote: »

Its really much the same way that the Queen is as old and active as she is.

A privileged upbringing, good nutrition, access to the best medical care money can buy, a healthy lifestyle which includes loads of breaks on private country estates with clean air and exercise, a team of people around you looking after how you look and no real life stresses or responsibilities such as financial troubles.

She isnt representative of anyone ordinary in any sense of the word, she would have no clue at all of an ordinary lifestyle.

Fair play to her I think. It wouldnt be a life Id like to have and she deals with it remarkably well.

The queen is a lot more overworked than I intend to be at her age, if I get there.

LETHAL LADY · 25-04-2018 08:22PM

A cracked one from my hometown was caught by visitors shagging her partner behind the hospital curtains a few hours after giving birth. Throwing on a frock and a bit of slap pales in comparison to that :eek:

Kate Middleton at 6pm

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