The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

Cartman78 · 07-03-2018 11:38am

There is undoubtedly repetition with Mick Clifford and Nicola Tallant but it doesn't bother me I have to say.

I don't really consume a lot of other Irish current affairs media, so this podcast is actually my main source for the Maurice McCabe and the Dublin feud stories.

The recent one with Tallant about the boxing-crime links was quite good imho - I didn't know all the ins and outs and had only seen a few snidey tweets from Paddy Barnes.

Also liked how Dunphy mentioned that he bought and read an obscure book on the gangland situation just so he could have something to talk to Nicola about

Didactic Ninja · 07-03-2018 8:56pm

dulpit wrote: »

I still can't figure out the point of the podcast. It's well produced, it has good guests, but nobody is on the shill anything (apart from the paper they work for) and there is no sponsor or ads. Is it just a (very enjoyable) hobby for Eamon?

seems to be. so i say fair play to him. he's a crank with a predominantly negative outlook (like myself) but you need your dunphys and vincent browns to counter the kool aid circle jerk you encounter elsewhere.

Beechwoodspark · 07-03-2018 10:45pm

dulpit wrote: »

I still can't figure out the point of the podcast. It's well produced, it has good guests, but nobody is on the shill anything (apart from the paper they work for) and there is no sponsor or ads. Is it just a (very enjoyable) hobby for Eamon?

Unless he’s doing it to keep his hand in the game and possibly get back into mainstream journalism. He’d possibly be a fit for Newstalk.

Mancomb Seepgood · 13-03-2018 1:18pm

Niall Stanage on again in the most recent one.He seems competent enough but Eamon tried to turn the matter of Stormy Daniels back to Clinton's misdeeds (Stanage rightly pointed out that there are multiple serious allegations from women against Trump as well).The anti-establishment persona that Eamon constructs for himself can be a little jarring at times.

He also had Jim "soft landing" Power on as well-I had no idea he was back in circulation!

dastardly00 · 14-03-2018 1:22pm

I enjoyed the interview with Gordan D'arcy

Salvation Tambourine · 14-03-2018 8:20pm

Twice now, on the Stand and on RTE a few moments ago Dunphy has twice said that Guardiola has worked well with young players and included Fernandinho in the list. He's 32...

Fanny Wank · 14-03-2018 8:24pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

I enjoyed the interview with Gordan D'arcy

I'm not a rugby fan (know zero about the game) but enjoyed it also

I've no interest in Trump, very little in McCabe and Kinnehan's but really enjoy the pods where it's just Dunphy interviewing someone be it a sports star or otherwise

applehunter · 02-04-2018 3:32am

I am really enjoying this podcast.

Sounds like a labour love.

Cormac Lucey podcast was excellent if a bit depressing.

Even the fact that they can make jokes about Denis O'Brien means it is more relevant than anything on Matt Cooper or Ivan Yates slots.

Dots1982 · 05-04-2018 6:37pm

Anyone hear Giles’ Gabriel Jesus pronunciation?

Calls him “Yazoo” .... me neither...

Beechwoodspark · 05-04-2018 8:39pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

Anyone hear Giles’ Gabriel Jesus pronunciation?

Calls him “Yazoo” .... me neither...

Was annoyed with Johnny using the a bit Irish phrase on off the ball. Meaning something stupid

Beechwoodspark · 15-04-2018 8:51pm

The most recent podcast with mick Clifford is excellent.

Beechwoodspark · 22-04-2018 10:48am

Again another excellent mick Clifford update.

Listened to about ten minutes of the bp fallon episode. Don’t like the guy-he’s full of sh1t who dines out on the same boring stories for donkeys years at this stage-so didn’t bother with it.

dulpit · 23-04-2018 12:21am

The BP episode was a bet Meh, but interesting mix of guests is good.

Does anyone have any insight into why Dunphy doesn't attempt to monetise this in some way? Surely he'd be able to source advertising and/or sponsors?

Arghus · 23-04-2018 3:42am

Another excellent episode with Mick Clifford in the past few days. He boils down the craziness of the current ongoing tribunals and puts the important facts under the spotlight.

I really can not stand Dunphy's punditry and some of his clownish behaviour in general, but his Pod is fast becoming essential listening.

I'll still skip the BP Fallon one though. Who needs to listen to him.

NIMAN · 23-04-2018 4:54am

Thanks for warning me about BP Fallon being on, total windbag and talentless tube.

franglan · 23-04-2018 7:10pm

Have to say the same re any monetary incentive for Dunphy doing these. Is squarespace not still advertising on every podcast in the world!! I do really enjoy the view from Washington updates - yes it's essentially the same podcast every week - but that's how I like it!

riemann · 23-04-2018 11:41pm

franglan wrote: »

Have to say the same re any monetary incentive for Dunphy doing these. Is squarespace not still advertising on every podcast in the world!! I do really enjoy the view from Washington updates - yes it's essentially the same podcast every week - but that's how I like it!

I'd say Dunphy is thinking patreon in the medium to long term. To be frank I'd throw him a fiver a month to keep it going

Salvation Tambourine · 17-05-2018 1:55pm

The end of his podcast with John Waters was amazing today.

JohnFalstaff · 17-05-2018 2:00pm

John Waters goes full Waters. Dunphy was being more than reasonable to him all the way through.
Waters can't even get on with someone who agrees with him.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 17-05-2018 2:21pm

That was epic

sentient_6 · 17-05-2018 2:50pm

I wasn't going to listen to any of it because im sick to my back teeth with this referendum but I think I will now after the last 2 posts!

jooksavage · 17-05-2018 3:01pm

Ahaha.... Priceless. John Waters got in possibly the most awful John Waters line ever: "These are angels dancing on the head of a pin while there are tanks coming down the main street". Then he storms off. After the referendum, whatever happens, there's gonna be a lot of reconciliation needed - I think both sides can agree that John Waters is a massive d***head and work from there.

dulpit · 17-05-2018 4:22pm

Jaysus. Firstly - both Eamon & John Waters were getting abortion pills and morning after pills mixed up. Secondly - it's interesting that Eamon can put forward a pretty even-handed line of questioning (while he was allowed), even though he says at the end he's a no voter. Thirdly - tad extreme reaction at the end...

It's only 15 minutes, and the main points are from ~10 minutes on... Well worth a listen...

OldMrBrennan83 · 17-05-2018 4:29pm

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sentient_6 · 17-05-2018 4:46pm

Just finished up with the two and they're genuinely worth a listen. I did swipe them away first too. Worth taking the time.

storker · 17-05-2018 6:41pm

jooksavage wrote: »

Ahaha.... Priceless. John Waters got in possibly the most awful John Waters line ever: "These are angels dancing on the head of a pin while there are tanks coming down the main street". Then he storms off. After the referendum, whatever happens, there's gonna be a lot of reconciliation needed - I think both sides can agree that John Waters is a massive d***head and work from there.

Waters is one of those people I can't stand even when I agree with him. I guess it balances out the ones I like even though I disagree with them...

Utopia Parkway · 17-05-2018 8:33pm

Waters went completely off the deep end amazingly quickly there considering it wasn't even a particularly aggressive line of questioning from Dunphy. It went from a reasonable even friendly chat to Waters storming off in a volley of expletives in about a minute and a half.

I see Waters has since doubled down by saying he's sorry that he ever met Dunphy and hopes he never sees him again lol.

JohnFalstaff · 17-05-2018 8:43pm

John Waters should have been stopped from aborting that interview and made to carry it to full term.

murpho999 · 17-05-2018 9:03pm

Just listened to both the John Walters and Una Mullally podcasts.

For me both are illustrative of how the campaigns are being run.

John Waters, who remember also advocated a no vote in the marriage referendum, came across as arrogant, , intolerant, petulant and unwilling to listen. He ultimately resorted to lies, temper tantrums and insults when he did not like what was being put to him.

Compare that to the interview with Una Mullaly, who advocated a Yes vote and the discussion was adult, respecftul, dignified and intelligent.

I think Dunphy, as an undecided voter leaning towards a no vote handled both interviews well.

I also think John Waters has given the no campaign a major setback through his behaviour and the media attention it is receiving.

OldMrBrennan83 · 17-05-2018 9:23pm

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turbbo · 17-05-2018 11:01pm

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Who's John Waters? just started listening he sounds like a pure gombeen.

The ending is good though like an x-rated version of father ted - down with that sort of thing now.

EPAndlee · 17-05-2018 11:10pm

Ah he just called Dunphy what we've all been calling him for years

ligerdub · 18-05-2018 12:22am

murpho999 wrote:

John Waters, who remember also advocated a no vote in the marriage referendum, came across as arrogant, , intolerant, petulant and unwilling to listen. He ultimately resorted to lies, temper tantrums and insults when he did not like what was being put to him.

murpho999 wrote:

Compare that to the interview with Una Mullaly, who advocated a Yes vote and the discussion was adult, respecftul, dignified and intelligent.

Hilarious. Mullaly is one of the least adult and respectful debaters around.

VW 1 · 18-05-2018 12:29am

Did you listen to both interviews?

Someone who can respect an interviewer playing devil's advocate is far better than a childish person who walks out mid-interview.

dulpit · 18-05-2018 12:32am

I hadn't really appreciated how good an interviewer Dunphy is until listening to these 2 podcasts. When he's not doing his "showbiz baby" or "it's a disgrace Bill" schticks he's really very very good.

Arghus · 18-05-2018 1:18am

Just listened to the John Waters interview there.

It was totally ridiculous. It was obvious right from the off that Waters was wound up and raring to go. Dunphy let him have a preamblatory waffle for a bit about his grandchild, but then tried to bring him back down to planet earth with the basic question - which he posed to him fairly and sincerely - about when we should consider human life to actually begin: fairly fundamental stuff if you want to have any sort of meaningful discussion about the issues!

Waters immediately began to get hot under the collar and more and more emotional, without dealing with the question in any meaningful way and quickly threw a complete tantrum before storming off. It was pretty extraordinary, Dunphy was entirely fair in his questioning and Waters just went totally bananas; the interview hadn't even got properly going and seemingly he wasn't even prepared to properly debate anything. Dunphy wasn't even playing devil's advocate, he was just getting the ball rolling. Surely anyone who is prepared to wade into the debate has to expect a degree of, well, debate to go along with that.

It felt like Waters just wanted a soapbox and once he had to deal with the presence of even a mere question he just lost the plot completely. The audio of him storming off effing and blinding is truly bizarre.

What an absolute child.

Arghus · 18-05-2018 2:18am

ligerdub wrote: »

Hilarious. Mullaly is one of the least adult and respectful debaters around.

Nothing hilarious about it all. You should listen to it.

The interview with Una Mullaly was a good and intelligent debate and she made her points in an articulate and passionate manner. Her reputation precedes her in many ways, but based on what she had to say in the interview, I thought she came across extremely well.

Dunphy asked her the questions and she was able to engage with them and defend her points of views, without resorting to childishly stomping off abruptly. There's no comparison between the level of debate in her interview and the corresponding one with John Waters: Mullaly's is clearly and objectively far superior and to claim otherwise is totally and utterly farcical.

Yer Da sells Avon · 18-05-2018 2:55am

dulpit wrote: »

I hadn't really appreciated how good an interviewer Dunphy is until listening to these 2 podcasts. When he's not doing his "showbiz baby" or "it's a disgrace Bill" schticks he's really very very good.

He's a seriously underrated interviewer. He had a great radio show on RTE around a decade ago, Conversations with Eamon Dunphy. Similar to Miriam O'Callaghan's Sunday morning series, but more probing and less cloying.

sleepyman · 18-05-2018 7:45am

dulpit wrote: »

I hadn't really appreciated how good an interviewer Dunphy is until listening to these 2 podcasts. When he's not doing his "showbiz baby" or "it's a disgrace Bill" schticks he's really very very good.

Totally agree.I'd love if he could maybe get some different contributors on crime/football instead of the usual suspects.Apart from that It's really good.Walters came across as a right petulant child.

murpho999 · 18-05-2018 8:51am

ligerdub wrote: »

Hilarious. Mullaly is one of the least adult and respectful debaters around.

Did you listen to her interview with Dunphy?

Care to point out any provable examples to back up your argument?

Pete Moss · 18-05-2018 9:07am

ligerdub wrote:

Hilarious. Mullaly is one of the least adult and respectful debaters around.

Listened to Waters yesterday and Mullally this morning. No contest. Mullally was eloquent and allowed Dunphy to make his point and hold his own opinion. Waters was abusive, aggressive and frustrated when challenged, he came across as a simpleton and out of his depth in an adult discussion.

As a side note, while I have no issue whatsoever with social and political topics being debated and discussed, I feel the campaign behind this referendum has become farcical over recent weeks.

The viral ads on YouTube and Facebook, many of which seem to have been funded by prolife organisations from outside Ireland. The hipster peddled Repeal jumpers. The campaign posters with inaccurate information placed outside schools, or the posters of aborted fetuses beside an image of Simon Harris in his constituency. The picketing at maternity hospitals by the No side, or the subsequent angels standing guard outside these hospitals from the Yes side. The shambles of the Claire Byrne debate with its Jerry Springer-esque audience, or the giant "No" plastered to the side of a mountain.

For what is a personal and emotive issue, this campaign should have been handled in a respectful and informative manner by both sides, rather than the mudslinging exercise it's become.

DickSwiveller · 18-05-2018 9:31am

Very soft interview with Mullally, but I suppose that's par for the course these days. I like John Waters. He's a welcome alternative to the liberal consensus, but he acted like an idiot yesterday.

minikin · 18-05-2018 9:42am

I’d suggest Waters reacted so personally because Dunphy is supposed to be a friend but he comes across as a bit of a two-faced snake in the grass.

Dunphy told Waters he was a no voter.
Dunphy told Mullaly ‘to put my cards on the table... I’m undecided’.

Which is it Eamo? Running with the hare and chasing with the hounds?.

igCorcaigh · 18-05-2018 9:44am

minikin wrote: »

I’d suggest Waters reacted so personally because Dunphy is supposed to be a friend but he comes across as a bit of a two-faced snake in the grass.

Dunphy told Waters he was a no voter.
Dunphy told Mullaly ‘to put my cards on the table... I’m undecided’.

Which is it Eamo? Running with the hare and chasing with the hounds?.

Yeah! I noticed that too!

murpho999 · 18-05-2018 10:04am

minikin wrote: »

I’d suggest Waters reacted so personally because Dunphy is supposed to be a friend but he comes across as a bit of a two-faced snake in the grass.

Dunphy told Waters he was a no voter.
Dunphy told Mullaly ‘to put my cards on the table... I’m undecided’.

Which is it Eamo? Running with the hare and chasing with the hounds?.

I got the impression that he was an undecided voter but leaning towards no.

Nothing two faced about it.

Might be a tactic for interviewing too to get more out of them.

kenco · 18-05-2018 10:41am

Listened to it this morning. I thought it was fine to start with but I feel within minutes Waters became very uncomfortable and - I think - was walking it was just a question of when. His reaction was a very poor reflection of on him as while Dunphy was undoubtedly challenging him it wasnt in a bad way...

Mullally I listened to yesterday and it was well handled and while she too was challenged she in comparison dealt with it maturely

dulpit · 18-05-2018 10:44am

murpho999 wrote: »

I got the impression that he was an undecided voter but leaning towards no.

Nothing two faced about it.

Might be a tactic for interviewing too to get more out of them.

I thought he had mentioned a few months back that he'd be voting no?

ligerdub · 18-05-2018 10:45am

murpho999 wrote: »

Did you listen to her interview with Dunphy?

Care to point out any provable examples to back up your argument?

Admittedly I hadn't (I never claimed I did), but I have since.

No surprise it was soft touch to be honest. Very difficult to give her praise for being so even handed and patient under such circumstances. You might as well give Real Madrid with Ronaldo & co praise for beating their under-8's team in training. There's nothing to be learned from somebody who isn't challenged.

To use an example of how Dunphy laid up these points for her, he:

- Spoke about the citizens assembly and why that was used to spur on the referendum. The point was about representation, which Mullaly said the CA did (it didn't), and how the Dail isn't representative (it is). Dunphy then went on to agree with her because of "the scarcity of women", a hollow point needlessly served up by Eamo.

- He then made some sort of leading question about patriarchy.

- He also then repeatedly answered her question for her in the sense that it wasn't really a question at all.

Mullaly's colours show up very clearly when anybody gives her even the most minor of pushbacks. She pulls out of debates if she doesn't like the opponent. She has sought (and succeeded in) getting comments disabled on her articles, one must not criticise Una. Her articles are a collection of misandry.

She has also used her own personal health struggles as a means to emotionally sway people or bat away opponents about why she, as a lesbian, should be permitted to get married. That's not to say she shouldn't be allowed, but let's leave the personal stuff out of it.

I never claimed this to be a Waters v Mullaly point either by the way. You'll notice I haven't mentioned Waters once, think what you like about him you'll find no pushback here, however I can't stand over a viewpoint that puts Una as some sort of reasonable commentator on anything.

Dial Hard · 18-05-2018 10:52am

Pete Moss wrote: »

For what is a personal and emotive issue, this campaign should have been handled in a respectful and informative manner by both sides, rather than the mudslinging exercise it's become.

I keep seeing this and it honestly, genuinely puzzles me. I hand-on-heart haven't seen anything from the Yes side even approaching the kind of tactics employed elsewhere. Genuine request here: can someone please point me in the direction of some examples of disrespectful/unacceptable campaign behaviour from any of the Yes organisations?

DickSwiveller · 18-05-2018 10:58am

Dial Hard wrote: »

I keep seeing this and it honestly, genuinely puzzles me. I hand-on-heart haven't seen anything from the Yes side even approaching the kind of tactics employed elsewhere. Genuine request here: can someone please point me in the direction of some examples of disrespectful/unacceptable campaign behaviour from any of the Yes organisations?

A lot of repealers are extremely intolerant of anyone who dares disagree with them. Maybe that's just the twitter bubble crowd, though

The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

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