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The 8th Amendment Part 2 - Mod Warning in OP

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  • #7742
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    splinter65 wrote: »

    I’ve got some pictures on my phone of my naked nieces aged 4 and 2 in the bath. .

    Have you shown a friend/co-workers these photos of your nieces naked ?


    Yes or No ?


  • #7743
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    Seriously, this attack on splinter is uncalled for.

    That's it cry foul, a favourite of 'pro-lifers'.

    In fairness anybody who openly condones the erection of naked baby pictures (by their own definition) should be asked to explain themselves and I sincerely hope you don't condone such a practice!


  • #7744
    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,552 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    According to previous posts a baby up to 12 weeks is not a baby but an idea of a baby, a clump of cells.Madness I know. I would love to hear from Drs that will be forced to do this.Does this not contradict their pledge not to do harm?
    And you're back to attacking my own and my partner's personal experience of a miscarriage. Why do you constantly do this?


  • #7745
    baylah17
    Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭baylah17


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    Seriously, this attack on splinter is uncalled for.
    At last we agree
    It is wrong and somewhat twisted


  • #7746
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Mod note: The discussion of naked photos ends HERE!

    This is the 8th amendment thread so discuss the 8th amendment!

    Buford T. Justice


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  • #7747
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,014 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Oh no. Don’t be coy. clearly you feel that my brother should not take pictures of his tiny children having fun in the bath to send to his sister , their aunt, for fear that I’ll sell them to a paedophile.
    And all this to justify the outrage at the pictures of unborn babies on posters on lampposts.
    So you cant distinguish between unborn foetus and your own nieces then theres not much hope for you.


  • #7748
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    Seriously, this attack on splinter is uncalled for.

    If there’s one thing pro repeal people hate its pictures of unborn babies. You find that if you stick around these arguments any length of time.
    This would be a very typical response.


  • #7749
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    The current Junior Cert science book states that a human life begins at fertilization.

    Must be an an examinable scientific fact then right :rolleyes:

    Page 51. Question 5(a).
    http://www.mentorbooks.ie/attachments/233_Teachers'_Rescource_Book.pdf


  • #7750
    uptherebels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Do you want to call the Gardai? TUSLA?
    Are you offended ? Repulsed?
    I suppose if your obsessed with women’s bodies and the contents of their wombs then it shouldn’t surprise me that you can cast a sexual deviancy angle on anything really.
    Instead of just seeing children playing you see some kind of perversion.
    But go ahead and judge me, please.
    I don't get offended by words on the internet.
    I'm not a pro lifers so I'm not the one obsessed with the contents of a woman's womb.

    I haven't accused you of any deviancy or perversion, like I already said it is uneceesary to have pics of naked kids on your phone. I have young nieces, my family have zero naked pics of them.
    If you didn't want to be judged why share that info? Were you expecting a pat on the back? Or looking for a reaction so as to play the victim?


  • #7751
    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,552 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    I just think it's pathetic and childish to be honest with you.I didn't think personal attacks were allowed.
    And yet you've no problem personally attacking me. Funny that :pac:


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  • #7752
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    pjohnson wrote: »
    So you cant distinguish between unborn foetus and your own nieces then theres not much hope for you.

    My niece was my niece the second she was conceived. She’s just a bit bigger now.


  • #7753
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,014 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    splinter65 wrote: »
    If there’s one thing pro repeal people hate its pictures of unborn babies. You find that if you stick around these arguments any length of time.
    This would be a very typical response.

    They dislike a foetus being called a baby but thats to do with education.


  • #7754
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,014 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    splinter65 wrote: »
    My niece was my niece the second she was conceived. She’s just a bit bigger now.

    As said above. Education issue


  • #7755
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    baylah17 wrote: »
    At last we agree
    It is wrong and somewhat twisted

    Hey listen, I don't believe that the No posters are child pornography and I couldn't care less what pictures he has on his phone. It's none of my business, but he's not totally innocent either, he's attempted to twist words and went on the attack, what do you think is going to happen!

    But anyway my point is, if No voters truly believe that a fetus is a human being, then are they not erecting naked baby pictures by their very own definition?

    Again just calling for consistency, nothing else.


  • #7756
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Have you shown a friend/co-workers these photos of your nieces naked ?


    Yes or No ?

    Call the Gardai gctest50. You’re clearly very upset. Clearly I’m a paedophile. It’s your duty to do something about it.


  • #7757
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,916 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Nell McCafferty who is voting for repeal has compared abortion to the mass slaughter at the Somme in WW1.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nell-mccafferty-pro-lifers-are-right-about-some-things-1.3469975

    Nell needs to educate herself on what is involved in an abortion up to 12 weeks.


  • #7758
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Call the Gardai gctest50. You’re clearly very upset. Clearly I’m a paedophile. It’s your duty to do something about it.





    Still can't get a straight answer :


    Yes or No ?


  • #7759
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    pjohnson wrote: »
    As said above. Education issue

    As another poster has pointed out, our secondary school children in science class are being currently taught that life begins at conception.
    Do you disagree with this?


  • #7760
    uptherebels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    splinter65 wrote: »
    If there’s one thing pro repeal people hate its pictures of unborn babies. You find that if you stick around these arguments any length of time.
    This would be a very typical response.

    You can show pics of foetus to me all you want. Tell me do pro lifers like looking a pics of third or fourth degree perineal tears or other injuries that some pregnant women suffer during childbirth?


  • #7761
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Still can't get a straight answer :


    Yes or No ?

    What makes you think I’m obliged to answer you at all?


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  • #7762
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,771 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    Oh I like that analogy, abortion is mass slaughter like in the Somme, and what's a miscarriage then, would it be friendly fire, like say when you accidently throw a grenade at you're own lads.

    Analogies are fun :-)

    A natural death.


  • #7763
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    uptherebels wrote: »
    You can show pics of foetus to me all you want. Tell me do pro lifers like looking a pics of third or fourth degree perineal tears or other injuries that some pregnant women suffer during childbirth?

    What have perineal tears got to to with abortion? Has anyone ever said “ ugh I’m pregnant I think I’ll have an abortion so I can avoid the stitches”?
    I would have thought this was exactly the type of argument you were trying to avoid.
    Reverse quick . You’ve shot yourself in the foot.


  • #7764
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    splinter65 wrote: »
    As another poster has pointed out, our secondary school children in science class are being currently taught that life begins at conception.
    Do you disagree with this?

    In fairness it is wrong, life began over a billion years ago and is a continuous process, also we don't even really know how life began in the first place.


  • #7765
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    splinter65 wrote: »
    What makes you think I’m obliged to answer you at all?

    Is that a firm

    No . ?


  • #7766
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    In fairness it is wrong, life began over a billion years ago and is a continuous process, also we don't even really know how life began in the first place.

    Human life begins at conception. That’s what the school book says. You don’t agree. Where have you your biology PHD from?


  • #7767
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    RobertKK wrote: »
    A natural death.

    But what if the woman's body rejects the fetus, isn't that manslaughter in the eyes of someone who identifies as 'pro-life'.


  • #7768
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    baylah17 wrote: »
    At last we agree
    It is wrong and somewhat twisted

    Had to happen at some point 🙂 !


  • #7769
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,831 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    See some GAA players group in support of Voting No. The involvement and use of a lot of children in their launch, totally inappropriate.
    Also Mikey Harte of Tyrone, highest profile person I see. But he has no vote himself and lives in a different jurisdiction.


  • #7770
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    But what if the woman's body rejects the fetus, isn't that manslaughter in the eyes of someone who identifies as 'pro-life'.

    How could it be manslaughter? Tell us your reasoning.
    Manslaughter is a crime whereby a person dies as a result of someone else’s carelessness or recklessness.
    Many women suffer many miscarriages which cause them great misery.
    Why are you suggesting that a woman is to blame for her miscarriage because of her own recklessness or carelessness?


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  • #7771
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Human life begins at conception. That’s what the school book says. You don’t agree. Where have you your biology PHD from?

    And at 12 weeks there even isn't really a heartbeat

    The cardiac cells are just spontaneuously beating

    Takes about 17 weeks for them to get organised





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