The 8th Amendment Part 2 - Mod Warning in OP

I Am The Law · 21-04-2018 08:22PM

Won't be voting, happy to repeal the 8th, not happy with handing over future laws to spotty teenagers on fine geal front bench and modern Irelands weird version of liberalism.

Huntergonzo · 21-04-2018 08:25PM

Blahblah2012 wrote: »

Well maybe wear a balloon next time some poor unfortunate facilitates ya

You wouldn't be condoning the use of contraception now would you??? Sure that kills millions of living sperm, is this not an issue for 'pro-lifers'!!! Such hypocrisy!

Ps, I'd imagine condoms are a better bet than balloons, but sure if you're stuck I suppose.

splinter65 · 21-04-2018 08:25PM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Could be, I don't know what you're using the pictures for!

I don't agree that a fetus is a human being, but if you do then I honestly find it strange that you don't have an issue with people erecting pictures of naked babies (by your own definition, not mine). What the fúck like?

Is a naked baby an offensive thing to you? Why? What’s offensive about an unborn baby? I know it’s a shock to see that the “clump of cells” or “fetus” is in fact after all actually a little human being but is it really offensive?

Smertrius · 21-04-2018 08:26PM

you call yourself love both and you are forcing a teenager to keep the pregnancy going

Blahblah2012 · 21-04-2018 08:28PM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

You wouldn't be condoning the use of contraception now would you??? Sure that kills millions of living sperm, is this not an issue for 'pro-lifers'!!! Such hypocrisy!

Ps, I'd imagine condoms are a better bet than balloons, but sure if you're stuck I suppose.

Of course I condone contraception/condoms/ballons. U could probably climb into one

nozzferrahhtoo · 21-04-2018 08:28PM

pleas advice wrote: »

leaving aside the fetus / baby question, under what circumstances would a woman be refused an abortion under the proposed legislation, where it will be allowed without any reason being given?

I would defer to NuMarvel and similar for answering this as they are more articulate and informed when it comes to the legal side of this issue. I stick to the science and philosophy side of it.

But crossing a threshold time wise, underlying medical issues that would exacerbate the risks involved in abortion, would be the kinds of things I would say example the restrictions.

Huntergonzo · 21-04-2018 08:28PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Is a naked baby an offensive thing to you? Why? What’s offensive about an unborn baby? I know it’s a shock to see that the “clump of cells” or “fetus” is in fact after all actually a little human being but is it really offensive?

I don't know, I think most people take a dim view of child pornograhy, appartently not yourself, sure fair enough, each to their own.

Huntergonzo · 21-04-2018 08:32PM

Blahblah2012 wrote: »

Of course I condone contraception/condoms/ballons. U could probably climb into one

Climb into a jonny? I'm not sure I follow.

Haha doesn't sound all that interesting!

Blahblah2012 · 21-04-2018 08:33PM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Climb into a jonny? I'm not sure I follow.

Haha doesn't sound all that interesting!

U just keep typing away...ur doing a GREAT job

gctest50 · 21-04-2018 08:36PM

splinter65 wrote: »

I’ve got some pictures on my phone of my naked nieces aged 4 and 2 in the bath...........

Do you think you'd get a different reception if you said

splinter65 wrote: »

I’ve got some pictures on my phone of my naked nieces aged 14 and 12 in the bath...........

For you why is it ok if they are 4 and 2 ?

Why is it not ok if they are 14 and 12 ?

Huntergonzo · 21-04-2018 08:36PM

Blahblah2012 wrote: »

U just keep typing away...ur doing a GREAT job

Thank you, genuinely appreciate that.

Blahblah2012 · 21-04-2018 08:38PM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Thank you, genuinely appreciate that.

I can see u believe it

Huntergonzo · 21-04-2018 08:41PM

Blahblah2012 wrote: »

I can see u believe it

Haha, you're like the crazy cat lady in the Simpsons, I haven't a clue what you're point is but you're genuinely interesting all the same.

Blahblah2012 · 21-04-2018 08:42PM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Haha, you're like the crazy cat lady in the Simpsons, I haven't a clue what you're point is but you're genuinely interesting all the same.

Maybe u just haven't a clue? Seems that way

splinter65 · 21-04-2018 08:44PM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

I don't know, I think most people take a dim view of child pornograhy, appartently not yourself, sure fair enough, each to their own.

So if you see a friend/family/co workers photos of small children you only see them in a sexual light?
Ok.

uptherebels · 21-04-2018 08:47PM

splinter65 wrote: »

So if you see a friend/family/co workers photos of small children you only see them in a sexual light?
Ok.

You left out the naked part. Kinda makes a big difference.
Why you would want pics of naked children of any age is beyond me. Least of all other people's children

Smertrius · 21-04-2018 08:49PM

you call yourself love both and you are forcing a rape woman to keep up the pregnancy

Huntergonzo · 21-04-2018 08:49PM

splinter65 wrote: »

So if you see a friend/family/co workers photos of small children you only see them in a sexual light?
Ok.

I can't understand why you condone the erecting of naked baby pictures (by your own definition) across Ireland, I mean say you had a newborn baby, would you start puting naked pictures of the poor child up across the country??

RobertKK · 21-04-2018 08:50PM

Nell McCafferty who is voting for repeal has compared abortion to the mass slaughter at the Somme in WW1.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nell-mccafferty-pro-lifers-are-right-about-some-things-1.3469975

splinter65 · 21-04-2018 08:51PM

gctest50 wrote: »

Do you think you'd get a different reception if you said

For you why is it ok if they are 4 and 2 ?

Why is it not ok if they are 14 and 12 ?

But I didn’t say 12 and 14.because their not 12 and 14.
it is your opinion that any loving auntie with treasured photos of precious small nieces having fun in the bath and who live far away is some kind of sexual deviant?
There’s no depths you won’t go to to be right in this argument about what is and isn’t a human being.
Well done.

Huntergonzo · 21-04-2018 08:53PM

Blahblah2012 wrote: »

Maybe u just haven't a clue? Seems that way

Hahahaha there's no MAYBE about it, I haven't a notion what you're on about, but like I said it's been fun.

Anyway, let's go back to basics, what is your position on abortion?

gctest50 · 21-04-2018 08:53PM

splinter65 wrote: »

So if you see a friend/family/co workers photos of small children you only see them in a sexual light?
Ok.

Have you shown a friend/co-workers photos of your nieces naked ?

splinter65 wrote: »

I’ve got some pictures on my phone of my naked nieces aged 4 and 2 in the bath. .

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-04-2018 08:53PM

Blahblah2012 wrote: »

I don't think MURDERING BABIES ON DEMAND is a joking matter..

Mod note: Blahblah2012, you need to dial back on the rhetoric here. A lot! Tone down your comments, please, this is a discussion site, not an online shouting contest.

Buford T. Justice.

splinter65 · 21-04-2018 08:55PM

uptherebels wrote: »

You left out the naked part. Kinda makes a big difference.
Why you would want pics of naked children of any age is beyond me. Least of all other people's children

They’re my nieces. My flesh and blood. If you see a sexual angle to your own flesh and blood then that’s for you to deal with. I can’t help you.

uptherebels · 21-04-2018 08:59PM

splinter65 wrote: »

They’re my nieces. My flesh and blood. If you see a sexual angle to your own flesh and blood then that’s for you to deal with. I can’t help you.

If their your nieces you can get all the pics you want with clothes on.
You can try and deflect all you want, your the one with pics of naked children on your phone.
Just because people see a problem with that doesn't really support you view that those same people see their family members in a sexual way.
What a very bizarre arguement to try and make.

amcalester · 21-04-2018 09:01PM

splinter65 wrote: »

They’re my nieces. My flesh and blood. If you see a sexual angle to your own flesh and blood then that’s for you to deal with. I can’t help you.

Children are most likely to be targeted for abuse by a family member.

Not that I for one second am trying to insinuate anything here but having naked pictures of your nieces and nephews might not be a great idea.

splinter65 · 21-04-2018 09:01PM

gctest50 wrote: »

Have you shown a friend/co-workers photos of your nieces naked ?

Do you want to call the Gardai? TUSLA?
Are you offended ? Repulsed?
I suppose if your obsessed with women’s bodies and the contents of their wombs then it shouldn’t surprise me that you can cast a sexual deviancy angle on anything really.
Instead of just seeing children playing you see some kind of perversion.
But go ahead and judge me, please.

AnneFrank · 21-04-2018 09:02PM

Seriously, this attack on splinter is uncalled for.

Huntergonzo · 21-04-2018 09:04PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Nell McCafferty who is voting for repeal has compared abortion to the mass slaughter at the Somme in WW1.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nell-mccafferty-pro-lifers-are-right-about-some-things-1.3469975

Oh I like that analogy, abortion is mass slaughter like in the Somme, and what's a miscarriage then, would it be friendly fire, like say when you accidently throw a grenade at you're own lads.

Analogies are fun :-)

splinter65 · 21-04-2018 09:06PM

amcalester wrote: »

Children are most likely to be targeted for abuse by a family member.

Not that I for one second am trying to insinuate anything here but having naked pictures of your nieces and nephews might not be a great idea.

Oh no. Don’t be coy. clearly you feel that my brother should not take pictures of his tiny children having fun in the bath to send to his sister , their aunt, for fear that I’ll sell them to a paedophile.
And all this to justify the outrage at the pictures of unborn babies on posters on lampposts.

The 8th Amendment Part 2 - Mod Warning in OP

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