8,000 Starbucks outlets closing because of racism.

19-04-2018 07:58AM #1

Starbucks is facing a fresh onslaught of criticism after a black man was allegedly denied access to a Los Angeles shop's bathroom as he was not a paying customer – despite a non-paying white patron being given the entry code to the toilet. This comes video emerged after two black men were arrested in another Starbucks franchise recently. Starbucks Corp today announced it would close 8,000 US stores in the afternoon of May 29 to train nearly 175,000 staff members on how to prevent racial discrimination in stores.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noPwQClleaQ

Now, why not just directly question the employee(s) responsible for giving access to one customer and not the other? Why not deal with things on a case by case basis as they arise. This is the same company that discontinued their Christmas cups out of fear of offense. 8,000 shops **** down to train 125,000 workers because a literally a handful of eejits went viral. Gotta be woke!

nice_guy80 · 19-04-2018 08:00AM

Of course, there are no Mauri on Craggy Island...

19-04-2018 08:01AM

It's a training day.
Their coffee is muck anyway

Mr E · 19-04-2018 08:02AM

Nice misleading clickbaity Daily Mail-type thread title there.

Uncharted · 19-04-2018 08:02AM

So I can't ask for a tall black......

Well good, because it's pure watery muck out of there....

CalamariFritti · 19-04-2018 08:05AM

Well if there is one thing social media certainly has achieved its giving me my daily dose of boring sh1te I don't really care about and dont want to comment on. But it appears that my existence is so repetitive and boring I will read it and comment anyway.

What are we talking about again?

denismc · 19-04-2018 08:09AM

Starmucks!

19-04-2018 08:35AM

Mr E wrote: »

Nice misleading clickbaity Daily Mail-type thread title there.

Thought it was one of my best to be honest. Gotta got these Virtue Signallers vs Low Key Racists threads going properly from the off. Technically true but hyperbolic, tabloid journalism at its best.

Samuel T. Cogley · 19-04-2018 08:37AM

They've done this publicity stunt before.

OneOfThem Stumbled · 19-04-2018 09:25AM

OP has messed this up.

Real story:

2 black guys sat down in a Starbucks in Philadelphia. They didn't order anything. They said they were waiting for a friend. Starbucks called the cops on them. The cops ordered them to leave. The two guys said that this was unreasonable. Friend finally shows up (he's white btw). Friend says "that's it, we're leaving". Cops say "too late, they were given their chance" and arrest them.

A boycott of Starbucks is announced on social media. Starbucks fires the employee who called the police and close 8,000 outlets in order to facilitate racial training for staff. Racial training could basically be summed up with "Google the name Rosa Parks"

Why do Americans call the police for the smallest of things? Particularly when the police in America are heavily armed, paranoid, and heavy handed.

Tabnabs · 19-04-2018 09:27AM

#FlatWhitesMatter

Boom_Bap · 19-04-2018 09:33AM

There have also been protests at that Starbucks store along with many around the US since this happened.

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It's essentially been closed as nobody is going in, so closing it officially for half a day of training is no big deal.

I just wonder how racism can be removed from their employees over the course of a few hours.
They should really give the course to a wider audience.

19-04-2018 09:37AM

The commissioner explains what happened in the minutes before the camera clip that went around

Danzy · 19-04-2018 09:37AM

If she hadn't been a small Asian girl would they have been more respectful.

It takes some neck to sit in a Starbucks for an hour, tell staff 3 times that you were not going to order and then demand the key.

The 2 men were assholes and they got escalated it like assholes and forced others to treat them like assholes.

She loses her job for treating them in line with Store policy and they'll get a big payoff to make it all go away.

silverharp · 19-04-2018 09:39AM

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

OP has messed this up.

Real story:

2 black guys sat down in a Starbucks in Philadelphia. They didn't order anything. They said they were waiting for a friend. Starbucks called the cops on them. The cops ordered them to leave. The two guys said that this was unreasonable. Friend finally shows up (he's white btw). Friend says "that's it, we're leaving". Cops say "too late, they were given their chance" and arrest them.

A boycott of Starbucks is announced on social media. Starbucks fires the employee who called the police and close 8,000 outlets in order to facilitate racial training for staff. Racial training could basically be summed up with "Google the name Rosa Parks"

Why do Americans call the police for the smallest of things? Particularly when the police in America are heavily armed, paranoid, and heavy handed.

there are facts we don't know, one of them asked for a key to use the loo, the manager probably stated it was only for paying customers and they needed to order something and it went down hill from there, what else was she going to do?

Danzy · 19-04-2018 09:40AM

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

OP has messed this up.

Real story:

2 black guys sat down in a Starbucks in Philadelphia. They didn't order anything. They said they were waiting for a friend. Starbucks called the cops on them. The cops ordered them to leave. The two guys said that this was unreasonable. Friend finally shows up (he's white btw). Friend says "that's it, we're leaving". Cops say "too late, they were given their chance" and arrest them.

A boycott of Starbucks is announced on social media. Starbucks fires the employee who called the police and close 8,000 outlets in order to facilitate racial training for staff. Racial training could basically be summed up with "Google the name Rosa Parks"

Why do Americans call the police for the smallest of things? Particularly when the police in America are heavily armed, paranoid, and heavy handed.

They were there for an hour and showed nothing but contempt to the Asian woman.

One thing about America, is if you act like a rude dick head for an hour, you can quickly get arrested.

There is no benefit of the doubt there.

OneOfThem Stumbled · 19-04-2018 09:46AM

Danzy wrote: »

They were there for an hour and showed nothing but contempt to the Asian woman.

One thing about America, is if you act like a rude dick head for an hour, you can quickly get arrested.

There is no benefit of the doubt there.

I don't know about that, but I doubt that that account is verifiable. Certainly the (911 ?) call didn't have any record of them being there for an hour, or being particularly confrontational.

But yeah, sure, they could have been rude.

Calling the police is an extreme response. How often have you heard of a store in Ireland calling the police? I've never heard of it. Calling the police because two people are sitting at a table, not ordering anything? Absolutely insane. Putting people in a cell because they didn't order a coffee? Completely, utterly hysterical behaviour. The fact that the same would apparently not have happened to white customers is the reason for the outcry.

seamus · 19-04-2018 10:51AM

I'm not really sure what the far right have to get all snowflakey about here. These are textbook examples of racism, no denying that.

But like Boom_Bap says, I'm not sure what Starbucks think they can achieve in half a day to make the racists in a group of 175,000 people, change their attitude. But I guess simple things like, "Ask yourself if you would act the same way if the person was a different colour", might make someone, who's not intentionally racist, stop and think for a second.

You also have the problem that this kind of racism is endemic in the US. A black kid was shot last week for asking for directions. There are countless videos and stories of black people being shot, assaulted, arrested or just delayed by cops for the smallest of infringements. Stories abound of people in wealthy neighbourhoods ringing the cops when they see a black man walking down the street. I recall one story on reddit about a cop who got a call to check out a suspicious man who was looking in houses in the same area where he was. It wasn't until another cop arrived on the scene, that the cop realised the call had been made about him. Because he was black.

So what hope does Starbucks alone have to "fix" this?

Hector Savage · 19-04-2018 11:01AM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

There have also been protests at that Starbucks store along with many around the US since this happened.

It's essentially been closed as nobody is going in, so closing it officially for half a day of training is no big deal.

I just wonder how racism can be removed from their employees over the course of a few hours.
They should really give the course to a wider audience.

Are you serious ?
Watch the video by the police commissioner for an explanation.

There is no racism here.

But I agree they shouldn't have been arrested , but thats the US cops being too by the book ... I am sure if it were 2 white guys they still would have been arrested.

This protest above is just mass hysteria, half the people there probably dont even know what they are protesting about .

lawred2 · 19-04-2018 11:02AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Gotta be woke!

what does that mean?

Boom_Bap · 19-04-2018 11:49AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Are you serious ?
Watch the video by the police commissioner for an explanation.

There is no racism here.

But I agree they shouldn't have been arrested , but thats the US cops being too by the book ... I am sure if it were 2 white guys they still would have been arrested.

This protest above is just mass hysteria, half the people there probably dont even know what they are protesting about .

Are you serious, are you even reading my words? Where have I said

"There is racism here"

What have I commented on is the course that they (the staff of Starbucks) will be attending (which for preventing racial discrimination) and I am making fun of any such course that can cure racial discrimination in any individual in half a day.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 19-04-2018 11:54AM

Can somebody summarise what happened. Did the black guys just sit there or did something else happen.

ohnonotgmail · 19-04-2018 11:54AM

bubblypop wrote: »

It's a training day.
Their coffee is muck anyway

perhaps they can train them to make better coffee while they are there.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 19-04-2018 11:56AM

I have no idea why anybody thinks Starbucks is worse or better than any other coffee chain for coffee.

Ragnar Lothbrok · 19-04-2018 12:04PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

......But I agree they shouldn't have been arrested , but thats the US cops being too by the book ... I am sure if it were 2 white guys they still would have been arrested.

I'm not so sure about that. We seldom, if ever, see or hear the same sort of stories about white men. Yet we come across so many instances of innocent black men being arrested, beaten up or shot dead by the police in the US.

There really seems to be very little doubt that the police in the US react very differently to members of the public based upon skin colour.

Shurimgreat · 19-04-2018 12:07PM

"Can I have a black coffee please?"
"You mean an African-American coffee?"

19-04-2018 12:08PM

They lady looks Latino so not sure if she would be Racist.

Maybe your man had told them he was bursting for a slash and will buy from them after he does this.

No proof of what actually happened, your man could look homeless for all we know.

Pure ****e trying to prove a pure ****e point

Hector Savage · 19-04-2018 12:10PM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Are you serious, are you even reading my words? Where have I said

"There is racism here"

What have I commented on is the course that they (the staff of Starbucks) will be attending (which for preventing racial discrimination) and I am making fun of any such course that can cure racial discrimination in any individual in half a day.

Why do you think a wider audience needs this "racial awareness" training ?

Should we all take "don't shoplift" classes too ?

lawred2 · 19-04-2018 12:13PM

Skyrimaddict wrote: »

They lady looks Latino so not sure if she would be Racist.

Maybe your man had told them he was bursting for a slash and will buy from them after he does this.

No proof of what actually happened, your man could look homeless for all we know.

Pure ****e trying to prove a pure ****e point

lol

only white people can be racist

Boom_Bap · 19-04-2018 12:14PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Why do you think a wider audience needs this "racial awareness" training ?

Should we all take "don't shoplift" classes too ?

Jaysus, I need to spell this out.

If there is someone capable of delivering a half day course to prevent racial discrimination, then maybe it should not be given to just Starbucks staff and should be delivered to everyone. This is the wider audience I speak of.

Again, I am mocking this so called course that is going to solve racial discrimination in half a day.

19-04-2018 12:17PM

lawred2 wrote: »

lol

only white people can be racist

I know, I thought this was the case, you can only be a white male to be racist.

8,000 Starbucks outlets closing because of racism.

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