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60,000 child porn images no jail

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  • #122
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Where is the protests for this?


  • #123
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Where is the protests for this?

    For some reason militant feminists don't get riled up en masse over child porn.


  • #124
    Squatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Squatter


    A decent, humane suspended sentence by Judge Nolan today and fair dues to the Garda too. I hope that unfortunate woman can make a new start somewhere.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/garda-said-dublin-mother-most-vulnerable-he-has-ever-seen-1.3464805


  • #125
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Squatter wrote: »
    A decent, humane suspended sentence by Judge Nolan today and fair dues to the Garda too. I hope that unfortunate woman can make a new start somewhere.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/garda-said-dublin-mother-most-vulnerable-he-has-ever-seen-1.3464805

    Prime example of why mandatory sentencing doesn't work. I'll concede kiddy porn might be an exception.


  • #126
    Church on Tuesday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    For some reason militant feminists don't get riled up en masse over child porn.

    Yeah, it's not quite in vogue these days is it?


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  • #127
    Summer wind
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    Makes me sick that we have to breathe the same air as these disgusting bastards.


  • #128
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Summer wind wrote: »
    Makes me sick that we have to breathe the same air as these disgusting bastards.

    They're not that bad, just fighting for women's rights and what they believe in.


  • #129
    Corruptedmorals
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Did he produce it? If so he should be in jail for a very long time.

    Even 'just' paying for it should be treated very seriously as that funding is instrumental to the perpetuating of the crime. Distributing it would also be a separate issue.

    If none of those factors are present here that makes this very different. While the sheer volume of images in question here is huge, the aspects I mentioned above are really key for assessing the gravity of the crime.


    There was some mention of his involvement in it in a few videos but not production/distribution. He wasn't charged with it though, the charges were receipt of images/videos, possession of it and destruction/concealment. He's a monster who abused hundreds of teenagers and a totally different category to Phelan but to actually be able to fully suspend a sentence for a higher total of child porn is just inexcusable.


  • #130
    cocaliquid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭cocaliquid


    This stinks of corruption with a paedo working as a senior civil servant getting no jail time. My guess he had information on someone powerful enough to get him a get out of jail card.

    60,000 Images/Videos how much money did the paedo spend obtaining these


    Was he funding the abuse of children for his sick pleasure :mad: :mad:


  • #131
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Well, the article does say 'most' of the stuff was naturist rather than pornographic - these are actually legal and legally couldn't be classified as child pornograpy. It might disturb some people to know it's incredibly easy to find pictures of naked children online using that angle, just using Google.

    While no level of child porn is ever OK obviously, the actual number of pornographic images/video in the eyes of the law is probably relatively small which would've affected sentencing.


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  • #132
    Keyzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Watching someone being killed is the same as killing someone? If someone gets a kick out of watching videos about Auschwitz that makes them guilty of mass murder? It doesn't. They might be a sick individual, and maybe even a potential danger to society, but the harm done in a crime is pretty important in the measure of a crime.

    Your attempt to rationalise this behaviour through failed analogies is worrying.

    This sick piece of sh1t paid someone (directly or indirectly) to rape multiple kids for his own sick depraved pleasure. Not have sex with them or make love to them. Rape them. Destroying the rest of their lives beyond repair. That's if they managed to survive.


  • #133
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Keyzer wrote: »
    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Watching someone being killed is the same as killing someone? If someone gets a kick out of watching videos about Auschwitz that makes them guilty of mass murder? It doesn't. They might be a sick individual, and maybe even a potential danger to society, but the harm done in a crime is pretty important in the measure of a crime.

    Your attempt to rationalise this behaviour through failed analogies is worrying.

    This sick piece of sh1t paid someone (directly or indirectly) to rape multiple kids for his own sick depraved pleasure. Not have sex with them or make love to them. Rape them. Destroying the rest of their lives beyond repair. That's if they managed to survive.
    BASTARD.


  • #134
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    miss_shadow wrote: »
    Judge martin f*cking nolan as I suspected. He should be forced to resign as he seems to think being a pedo is ok...
    What's wrong with being pedo? (having Paedophilia F65.4 disorder)?


  • #135
    JMNolan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    Bit of an article in The Mirror about this case, good read https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/news-opinion/pat-flanagan-ireland-paedophiles-paradise-12394616


  • #136
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JMNolan wrote: »
    Bit of an article in The Mirror about this case, good read https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/news-opinion/pat-flanagan-ireland-paedophiles-paradise-12394616

    Ha I love the username!


  • #137
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Keyzer wrote: »
    Your attempt to rationalise this behaviour through failed analogies is worrying.

    Your disregard and trivialization of the holocaust is deeply alarming.
    Keyzer wrote: »
    This sick piece of sh1t paid someone (directly or indirectly) to rape multiple kids for his own sick depraved pleasure. Not have sex with them or make love to them. Rape them. Destroying the rest of their lives beyond repair. That's if they managed to survive.

    I'm not really familiar with this case but judging from the other comments here I'd say you probably don't know this, but are making this up.
    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    BASTARD.

    Um.


  • #138
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    JMNolan wrote: »
    Bit of an article in The Mirror about this case, good read https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/news-opinion/pat-flanagan-ireland-paedophiles-paradise-12394616

    Even that article references Garlic Man :pac:


  • #139
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Nixonbot wrote: »
    Even that article references Garlic Man :pac:

    That 'article' could have been written (better) by most of the posters here tbh.


  • #140
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,974 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    The law is a joke-case in point. https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/cork-woman-who-killed-cyclist-12420849

    Woman kills cyclist with her car because she wasn't watching the road, and gets a suspended sentence.
    There seems to be a distinct lack of empathy in the court system, of basic justice-similar to cases of paedophilia, it seems if you can afford a good lawyer, you can get away with anything-similar to the chef Tim Allen case.


  • #141
    AllForIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    The law is a joke-case in point. https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/cork-woman-who-killed-cyclist-12420849

    Woman kills cyclist with her car because she wasn't watching the road, and gets a suspended sentence.
    There seems to be a distinct lack of empathy in the court system, of basic justice-similar to cases of paedophilia, it seems if you can afford a good lawyer, you can get away with anything-similar to the chef Tim Allen case.

    Yeah, a distinct lack of empathy.


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  • #142
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Nixonbot wrote: »
    Even that article references Garlic Man :pac:

    That 'article' could have been written (better) by most of the posters here tbh.
    I think they read and copied our bloody posts. Ha


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