Morrissey denounces Halal meat as "evil" attacks Theresa May and Sadiq Khan

SharpshooterTom · 17-04-2018 06:13PM #1

Morrissey has made an extraordinary – even by his standards – series of pronouncements in a new interview published on his website, attacking halal meat producers, Theresa May, Diane Abbott and Sadiq Khan, among others.

The former Smiths frontman – already infamous for his statements on race, animal welfare and more – criticised halal meat production, the Islamic method of animal slaughter. He claimed that “halal slaughter requires certification that can only be given by supporters of Isis”, and described it as “evil”. He also described Jewish kosher food production as “very cruel”, and called for it to be banned.

Halal slaughter involves live animals having their throats cut and their blood drained. The vast majority of halal meat producers stun the animals before killing them, just as they do in non-halal production. To carry out halal slaughter, you must be a Muslim with a certificate of competence from the Food Standards Agency, and work in an approved abattoir. “I am not saying that stunned slaughter is acceptable, because it couldn’t ever be,” Morrissey added. “If you use the term ‘humane slaughter’ then you might as well talk in terms of ‘humane rape’.”

He criticised prime minister Theresa May for calling the Muslim Eid al-Adha festival a “joyous celebration” … “as millions of animals had their throats slit to mark the occasion. I wondered what kind of compassion she could possibly have.” He also said May was “incapable of leadership. She cannot say her own name unless it’s written down on a cue card in front of her.”

Elsewhere in the interview, he describes UK politics as “a moral disaster on every level. Even Tesco wouldn’t employ Diane Abbott [Labour’s shadow home secretary].” London mayor Sadiq Khan is also criticised: “London is debased. The mayor of London tells us about ‘neighbourhood policin’’ ... this is the mayor of London! And he cannot talk properly!”

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/17/morrissey-denounces-halal-meat-as-evil-attacks-theresa-may-diane-abbott-sadiq-khan-isis-for-britain

Just saw Morrissey's name amongst the top trends on twitter and then found this

Does he actually believe all the crap he says or does he say these things to sell more tickets?

Stigura · 17-04-2018 06:16PM

Dunno.

Birneybau · 17-04-2018 06:18PM

That joke isn't funny any more. Bigmouth Strikes Again. Etc.

Also, his gigs still almost all sell out.

17-04-2018 06:18PM

It's tiring thinking of the inevitable ad hominem attacks against Morrissey rather than the topic under discussion.
I agree with him in relation to halal slaughter and Diane Abbott though.

Harry Palmr · 17-04-2018 06:21PM

Mozza has been an idiot commentator for much of his public life, he must have been thrilled when twitter was invented.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 17-04-2018 06:21PM

Marty just can't keep out of trouble, the little hooligan.

DavidLyons_ · 17-04-2018 06:22PM

Good man Morrissey. Love him or hate him, he's always good for straight shooting.

He's dead right about May, Khan and Abbott too.

Amirani · 17-04-2018 06:22PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/17/morrissey-denounces-halal-meat-as-evil-attacks-theresa-may-diane-abbott-sadiq-khan-isis-for-britain

Just saw Morrissey's name amongst the top trends on twitter and then found this

Does he actually believe all the crap he says or does he say these things to sell more tickets?

Having read his autobiography, I have no doubt he believes these things.

On the meat items above, I'm sure you might hear similar from many vegans. His statement on Khan though is ridiculous though IMO.

ceadaoin. · 17-04-2018 06:25PM

I remember a thread on another site the last time he said something annoying. Loads of people saying they see him in their local caf regularly eating meat. Wouldn't surprise me if he just says all this stuff for attention.

Irish Guitarist · 17-04-2018 06:31PM

He's right. It's a barbaric way to kill an animal.

jmayo · 17-04-2018 06:37PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/17/morrissey-denounces-halal-meat-as-evil-attacks-theresa-may-diane-abbott-sadiq-khan-isis-for-britain

Just saw Morrissey's name amongst the top trends on twitter and then found this

Does he actually believe all the crap he says or does he say these things to sell more tickets?

Feckin hell I have new found respect for Morrissey.
Still doesn't mean I want to sit through a concert of his.

He is on the money regarding the politicians and British politics.
May is an idiot whose Brexit strategy is just to keep the tories somehow together and fook the country.
Abbott is an eejit.
And Khan's answer to terrorism is that people should just accept it as part of living in a modern European city.

"As far as racism goes, the modern Loony Left seem to forget that Hitler was Left wing,” said Morrissey. “But of course, we are all called racist now, and the word is actually meaningless.

“It’s just a way of changing the subject. When someone calls you racist, what they are saying is ‘hmm, you actually have a point, and I don’t know how to answer it, so perhaps if I distract you by calling you a bigot we’ll both forget how enlightened your comment was’.”

Nail on head.

And he goes on.

Speaking on the subject of acid attacks, he continued: “London is second only to Bangladesh for acid attacks. All of the attacks are non-white, and so they cannot be truthfully addressed by the British government or the Met Police or the BBC because of political correctness.

“What this means is that the perpetrator is considered to be as much of a victim as the actual victim. We live in the Age of Atrocity.”

dd972 · 17-04-2018 06:38PM

He's a Mancunian of Dublin origins and people wonder why he's a gob****e!:eek: By default the chances are 200%!

Sonics2k · 17-04-2018 06:39PM

"As far as racism goes, the modern Loony Left seem to forget that Hitler was Left wing,” said Morrissey. “But of course, we are all called racist now, and the word is actually meaningless.

“It’s just a way of changing the subject. When someone calls you racist, what they are saying is ‘hmm, you actually have a point, and I don’t know how to answer it, so perhaps if I distract you by calling you a bigot we’ll both forget how enlightened your comment was’.”

hahahahahahahaha

Nobody is really taking this man seriously if he thinks Hitler was Left Wing?

gozunda · 17-04-2018 06:39PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/17/morrissey-denounces-halal-meat-as-evil-attacks-theresa-may-diane-abbott-sadiq-khan-isis-for-britain

Just saw Morrissey's name amongst the top trends on twitter and then found this

Does he actually believe all the crap he says or does he say these things to sell more tickets?

He's gone vegan - I think that explains plenty.

Oh and he makes loads of money from his 'meat is muder' album and sounding off ..

Funny not all vegans appear to like him. Like this extreme bunch -

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/after-30-years-morrissey-goes-vegan-but-calls-veganism-purist/

I wouldn't get too excited about what he says tbh

alchemist33 · 17-04-2018 06:48PM

jmayo wrote: »

And Khan's answer to terrorism is that people should just accept it as part of living in a modern European city.

Do you have a reference for this? I keep seeing it on boards but can't find it

Amirani · 17-04-2018 07:04PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

hahahahahahahaha

Nobody is really taking this man seriously if he thinks Hitler was Left Wing?

Hitler was fairly left wing economically; the Nazis we're actually the National Socialist Workers Party. Stalin and Mao were clearly also left-wing in this sense, as is the North Korean Kim dynasty.

The big issue arises when people attempt to project economic, social and other ideologies on a stupid 2 dimensional line. So while what Morrissey said is accurate, it's being deliberately obtuse, but then, that's what he does...

Grayson · 17-04-2018 07:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's tiring thinking of the inevitable ad hominem attacks against Morrissey rather than the topic under discussion.
I agree with him in relation to halal slaughter and Diane Abbott though.

Are they ad hominem if he's an idiot?

He's the kind of guy no-one wants on their side. Like Bob Geldolf. No Bob, you're not helping the remain argument.

Amirani · 17-04-2018 07:08PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

Do you have a reference for this? I keep seeing it on boards but can't find it

Khan is continually misquoted on it (Boards and elsewhere) which is a large part of the issue.

DavidLyons_ · 17-04-2018 07:09PM

Grayson wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

It's tiring thinking of the inevitable ad hominem attacks against Morrissey rather than the topic under discussion.
I agree with him in relation to halal slaughter and Diane Abbott though.

Are they ad hominem if he's an idiot?

He's the kind of guy no-one wants on their side. Like Bob Geldolf. No Bob, you're not helping the remain argument.

Harsh on Morrissey there. Geldof is an utter cnut.

Amirani · 17-04-2018 07:11PM

Grayson wrote: »

Are they ad hominem if he's an idiot?

That's pretty ironic.

RustyNut · 17-04-2018 07:13PM

New album on coming out I'm guessing.

Stigura · 17-04-2018 07:19PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Does he actually believe all the crap he says or does he say these things to sell more tickets?

Stigura wrote: »

Dunno.

Okay. I just read the entire, original interview. Word for word. Every word. Hands up who else has ................................................ No? Okay.

It actually gives a fuller perspective.

But, carry on .....

lawred2 · 17-04-2018 07:21PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

He's right. It's a barbaric way to kill an animal.

aren't all methods to kill an animal for mass consumption barbaric?

Graces7 · 17-04-2018 07:22PM

lawred2 wrote: »

aren't all methods to kill an animal for mass consumption barbaric?

Of course they are ....

How Soon Is Now · 17-04-2018 07:22PM

Oh Morrissey I love you....

ceadaoin. · 17-04-2018 07:24PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

Do you have a reference for this? I keep seeing it on boards but can't find it

This is what he said

“Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job. We must never accept terrorists being successful, we must never accept that terrorists can destroy our life or destroy the way we lead our lives.”

Zebra3 · 17-04-2018 07:33PM

May is particularly thick. Not sacking Jackson, actually even giving him a job in the first place, is inexcusable.

Or maybe she keeps him around as she thinks he’ll make her look good....

The Tories are so in the brown stuff that Rees-Mong is being touted as a saviour.

Sonics2k · 17-04-2018 07:34PM

Amirani wrote: »

Hitler was fairly left wing economically; the Nazis we're actually the National Socialist Workers Party. Stalin and Mao were clearly also left-wing in this sense, as is the North Korean Kim dynasty.

The big issue arises when people attempt to project economic, social and other ideologies on a stupid 2 dimensional line. So while what Morrissey said is accurate, it's being deliberately obtuse, but then, that's what he does...

I'm on mobile so I'm not going to go into the full details, but suffice to say, this has been cleared up an discussed dozens of times on After Hours alone.

Hitler was not a socialist. The Nazi Party were not socialists. The name was a lie.

Mao and Stalin claimed socialism, but were not in practice.

A key rule of socialism is income equality. None of the three believed in this.

Socialism is a flawed concept because humans are jerks.

But again, Hitler was not left wing. He believed in National Socialism, which is vastly different to Left Wing Socialism, eg Jeremy Corbin.

Again, on mobile so can only type so much. Apologies

Graces7 · 17-04-2018 07:38PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

This is what he said

Which does amount to saying that we have to expect it

Ash.J.Williams · 17-04-2018 07:41PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Morrissey has made an extraordinary – even by his standards – series of pronouncements in a new interview published on his website, attacking halal meat producers, Theresa May, Diane Abbott and Sadiq Khan, among others.

The former Smiths frontman – already infamous for his statements on race, animal welfare and more – criticised halal meat production, the Islamic method of animal slaughter. He claimed that “halal slaughter requires certification that can only be given by supporters of Isis”, and described it as “evil”. He also described Jewish kosher food production as “very cruel”, and called for it to be banned.

Halal slaughter involves live animals having their throats cut and their blood drained. The vast majority of halal meat producers stun the animals before killing them, just as they do in non-halal production. To carry out halal slaughter, you must be a Muslim with a certificate of competence from the Food Standards Agency, and work in an approved abattoir. “I am not saying that stunned slaughter is acceptable, because it couldn’t ever be,” Morrissey added. “If you use the term ‘humane slaughter’ then you might as well talk in terms of ‘humane rape’.”

He criticised prime minister Theresa May for calling the Muslim Eid al-Adha festival a “joyous celebration” … “as millions of animals had their throats slit to mark the occasion. I wondered what kind of compassion she could possibly have.” He also said May was “incapable of leadership. She cannot say her own name unless it’s written down on a cue card in front of her.”

Elsewhere in the interview, he describes UK politics as “a moral disaster on every level. Even Tesco wouldn’t employ Diane Abbott [Labour’s shadow home secretary].” London mayor Sadiq Khan is also criticised: “London is debased. The mayor of London tells us about ‘neighbourhood policin’’ ... this is the mayor of London! And he cannot talk properly!”

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/17/morrissey-denounces-halal-meat-as-evil-attacks-theresa-may-diane-abbott-sadiq-khan-isis-for-britain

Just saw Morrissey's name amongst the top trends on twitter and then found this

Does he actually believe all the crap he says or does he say these things to sell more tickets?

What part of it is untrue?

Ash.J.Williams · 17-04-2018 07:43PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I remember a thread on another site the last time he said something annoying. Loads of people saying they see him in their local caf regularly eating meat. Wouldn't surprise me if he just says all this stuff for attention.

That's a fairly silly post now isn't it?

Morrissey denounces Halal meat as "evil" attacks Theresa May and Sadiq Khan

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